Hi Valetta, welcome to the Complete Thai Massage certification program.
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I have the opportunity to work on a young political professional set of clients and they are all very tight, tense, uptight and constricted, any suggestions for helping them to loosen up so they can make more benefit to the sessions?
I am up to lesson 7 as far as annotating in the forum and once I catch up my posting notes, you can see the difficult time I am having, I have even given reiki and T touch techniques and I have seen minuscule improvement.
My goal is to perform at least two sessions with clients a day. For more insight and practice in techniques, to give them time to provide feedback the following day as to their well being, and stress diminishment or overall feelings of wellness.
My personal bodys response has been wonderful and I am really feeling that things are moving in the right direction. I have been having toe cramps when sitting on my shins, and that had been a thing of the past,,not sure why it has cropped back up. I’ll keep you posted
So, this morning I wanted to add the module 1 and the module 2 notes before I left for wrk and realized I hit the add topic instead of the add reply. I tried looking for it and was not successful. Its time for me to go and I will make sure I do it correct next time. I was alot more rushed to put the notes in before work and overlooked that.
I have lesson 3 and 4 to add this evening and I have another session tonight as well. It is so much easier and I feel much more relaxed than I thought I would. I’m glad it took me so log to get to it all, because I have gone through the videos three times or so and Now I can listen and do techniques much more smoothly.
The client I worked on last week was a young lawyer that spends most of his time stressing over a case load that is his responsibility but not his cases, he is a Junior lawyer. Being able to use a healing touch and sense his resistance in the beginning was very important. what I came to find interesting was his inability to let go.
I did a simple once over of different had positions and light pressure because I noticed what ever I did his face was grimaced and his fists would ball up and when I asked if anything was painful, he would say no but was very constricted and resistant until about halfway, he seemed to drift off and then. . . only then did I feel as though I was getting some place.
My body felt great afterward, I maintained good posture and for the most part, my hands never felt stressed.
The client for the (actual) chi machine was the same young lawyer that spends most of his time stressing over a case load that is his responsibility but not his cases, he is a Junior lawyer. Being able to use a healing touch and sense his resistance in the beginning was very important. what I came to find interesting still was his inability to let go. It was difficult to move him passively because he was not capable of allowing me to move his body without his assistance.
I had him experience 15 minutes of the Chi Machine then I began doing the wave movement manually to see if he was able to relax a bit. I did not sense and change (chuckle). But what happened at about the 30 minute mark, we were able to laugh when I would have an arm or leg raised and once I let it go it remained in the air. fortunately he was slightly able to allow me more control to move him passively in the hamstring stretch but not so much as to feel that he has learned to relax. I will update on our next session.
In regards to your question about working with the political professionals, in my experience the rocking techniques work extremely well on such clients. Many of them are demonstrated in the Complete Thai Massage course, and many more in the separate Thai Rocking Massage course. It is relatively easy to resist a linear stretch, but almost impossible to resist a more flowing continuous-motion rocking movement. That’s what has always worked best for me with very tight and restricted clients.
I noticed all your disassociated posts due to adding topics instead of replies, and I moved them all back to your original thread.
It seems that you got a bit mixed up with your notes since some of the content of your module 1 post is identical to the content of your module 2 post.
When I get such uptight people, I sometimes suggest to them that they skip the Thai Massage initially and instead go for a Heavenly Head Massage which works more directly on such uptight minds.
You did a 15 minute Chi Machine! I wonder how your legs survived this!
This is my number one. I personally get foot massage every two weeks, but if I was in Thailand and could pay $4. I would have it everyday.
The foot massage client was female and does not like pedicures because she says she is too ticklish, she also says she has ugly feet and rather not expose them. first time we did a session, she kept on her socks, I laughed a bit but figured oh well, meet them where they are.
the circular movement was good for me and GREAT for her. there was relaxing exhales and I got a sense of relief and relaxation. The plantar flexion was very difficult with her and after talking, I found she does not really wear high heels so if felt a bit tight and uncomfortable to her.
the push /pull with the foot for the hip and ankle was a great move for her, she oohed and ahhed. I smiled a lot during this. Of note are the positions that the practitioner is in, I have realized they are very much key to ensuring good posture for the less amount of discomfort. I like that you take so much effort on the positioning.
It was nice having the lesson offer more techniques focused on improving the flow of movements. this time I was able to get the client to relax alot more. to aid in that, I provided wireless headphones playing relaxing and stress reducing subliminal messages while I went through the steps and the flow of both feet together and transition between feet. the best thing I realized in this is that the touch and flow of movement is what I like best about when I have a foot treatment this is what I wanted to bring to the client, and as was par…she was blissfully napping in and out feeling the rocking movement she said was lulling her to sleep even though she wanted to stay awake.
the mind body essence is what brought me into the Thai Massage aspect of body work.
Yes, Saw and read the posts you made. thanks for the Heavenly Head suggestion. I actually have a machine called the Chi Machine. The one I have has variable speeds and I have a wedge cushion that is covered in something like pleather that allows the legs to slide smoothly back and forth with out discomfort. LOL I mount up myself to it and sleep through it. very relaxing.
I really like the foot lock to steady the leg. It worked good on a smaller person. Additionally the inner thigh side hand placement to help avoid genital contact in the warmup was good. It took me a while to get the roll with the left hand and pull with the right hand. My client is about 6 foot 7 and has a really long leg so I was not able to get the kneeling foot lock very well.
On the taller client though the IT Band move was awesome holding their foot with my foot from the outside. I would like to try this warm up with some of my personal training clients to see if it helps them when we have leg days.
A 6 foot 7 client will be a challenge with some techniques, no question about that. And there is nothing wrong with skipping or modifying techniques on very large or heavy clients. Not every technique will work equally well for every client. Remember that the techniques are options to choose from, not mandatory sequences.
this additional information for the leg warm up has been very useful. I especially like the pressing with the left hand and pulling with the right. Once I was in the seated position and using my forearm at the top of the leg, he clearly was initially tense and then as I used my weight to lean into the muscle, it was a visible release for the client.
Once I tried the foot turn 45 degree and straight arm straight into the calf muscle I initially had a hard time getting the right position. after a bit though, I must have gotten it alright since the client made a comment that it was a great feeling on the calf muscle.
I have seen clients with a hip obliquity before where just as you said you can see the issue from observing the feet and how they sit naturally. also seeing the unevenness of the hips when lying supine.
I really like the elephant walk and the butterfly three press on the upper thigh. I was having some difficulty with the 90 degree foot press stretch. I will have to really practice that. Although the two foot walking on the thigh was very relaxing he said. initially he thought it would hurt and was all tense until he realized I was moving gentle and that the stretch was very nice. I like all of these and have had a great response.
This calf work feels so good. When I was in Pittsburgh I met a lady that did that calf stretch thing on me and I could not wait to get back home and give it a go with my client.
It did go very well and I also did the knee warm up (fwd/back shimmy). I have even tried it on me and the feeling is great after a day of walking around in heels and have a knee issue. I realize that although my hands are not all that small, I did experience some difficulty with the leg bent and holding the foot for the lean back and pull with a male client as you thought might be the case. I could feel at the point the calf let go and was relaxed. these moves are so very nice then I also did the hold of the foot to the crotch and applying pressure on the posterior hammy while the leg is up and the pressure on the calf was a bit uncomfortable to him.. did I do something wrong or can it be a bit sensitive sometimes
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