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I have been practicing massage for eight years, primarily neuromuscular therapy in Atlanta Georgia. Since attending massage school I have had an interest in learning some Thai massage. It is very different from what I practice now but am excited to add it to my practice. I am traveling through Southeast Asia at the moment and it fells like the perfect time to start studying Thai massage. I am starting with the hip therapy tomorrow.

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Hi Trina, welcome to the Hip Therapy course and our forum. I am curious to hear how you will manage to practice the material while traveling in Cambodia. Are you traveling with someone whom you can practice on? Your daughter maybe?

Also please take a minute and familiarize yourself with our certification check list:

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Looking forward to read about your experience with the material! Smile

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February 27, 2016 - 9:15 pm
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Module 1

I began the Thai hip therapy today and am glad to have learned another way to assess the hip. I was working on my daughter and since she is 14 years old, didn't really expect to find any problems. The flexibility in her right foot was great but there seemed to be some resistance in her left one. I wasn't able to get it to rotate laterally as far as the right one. When I asked her if she noticed it she responded that she did and that it was also that knee she was having trouble with. I had worked on her knee a few days ago and it helped but not a hundred percent. Now I am eager to see if the problem is coming from the hip.

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February 28, 2016 - 10:34 am
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I am always happy to hear that course students are practicing on their children. Massage within the family is a wonderful thing. Actually in Thailand it has generally been the other way 'round. Mostly the children worked on their parents and grand parents.

As a young girl my Thai wife used to massage her grandma all the time when she had aches and pains. But in the western world I doubt that anyone would be able to teach their kids some massage and have them work on you! Smile

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Module 2

I watched the video once through then practiced the rocking techniques on two of my children as I watched it a second time. They both agreed the rocking felt nice. Although my son didn't seem to relax as much as I would have liked. He stays pretty tight over all. I can see that this would be a nice technique to use on clients with fibromyalgia who can't take a lot of pressure. It didn't take long to get comfortable myself with this technique even though it is very different than what I normally do. All the techniques except using my knee, that felt a little awkward. I like how the rocking can open up the hip joint in a gentle way. My children actually love having me work on them. They learned from a young age I guess the benefits of massage.

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February 29, 2016 - 11:48 pm
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You might want to watch this video which is about developing a good balance for doing knee work in Thai Massage:

Balance Exercise For Thai Massage Knee Techniques

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Module 3

Today was a lesson about being patient with myself. As I practiced the pressure techniques taught in module 3 I became more comfortable with the knee techniques. My client said the pressure was comfortable throughout the session except at the beginning when I was using my forearms. Leaning in with my entire body is becoming more natural as well. Although the concept of energy is very different then the scientific approach of neuromuscular that I am use to, I am looking forward to incorporating it into my practise.

Thank you for the video Shama.

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Very soon I will produce a video which goes much deeper into the concept of energy and how I use it. This is something which I had wanted to clarify since a while now.

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My client today complains of tight legs often so this work is much needed on him. His adductors couldn't take much pressure and it was obvious how tight they were from how little flexibility he had when his feet were together, legs out to the side. I lessened the pressure on them and used the rocking techniques to try and relax them a bit.  When I moved onto the next technique he was much more comfortable. When I had his foot in my groin and was pushing his leg out and up he didn't have any discomfort.

Looking forward to your upcoming video on energy Shama.

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I did today's work on my daughter bacause she tends to be more flexible and I felt like I would be able to perform more of the techniques on her. I still feel a bit awkward because I guess I am a bit clumsy and this is not all that comfortable to me. But I do remember feeling that way years ago in massage school and I certainly do not feel that way with the work I do on a daily basis now. Using my entire body instead of just muscle is becoming more natural. She told me at one point the pressure was to much but once I adjusted it she was comfortable. She had pretty good flexibility and I was able to get her knee almost to the floor.

I will be honest slowing down blood flow makes me a bit uncomfortable but maybe with time I will get there. She is like her mother and I was not even able to feel a pulse on her. I know mine is very hard to feel even for nurses.

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I know that initially many therapists feel a little uncomfortable with the "blood stop" which is not a blood stop at all. The funny thing is that this is one of those moves which is really appreciated by clients once you know how to do it right and you feel comfortable with it. Here in Thailand it is used in most Thai Massage sessions. Nobody even gives it a second thought. 

In the western world everyone likes to point out the dangers of this move, like varicose veins and blood clots. However keep in mind that this is not a blood stop despite the gruesome name, but a circulation enhancer and energy stimulator. 

If someone really does have serious varicose veins, blood clots or things of that nature, that should have become evident in the initial client interview, and then you just skip this technique. However I have never heard of anyone being harmed by this move.

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Module 6

I am enjoying all the variations of stretches being taught in this course. Today I worked with my oldest son and although he doesn't have a lot of hip issues he was able to feel a few of the stretches for the #5 pie slice. Especially the one where I had both of his legs together and was standing using all of my body weight pushing his legs towards his chest. I can feel a difference when I use my entire body like I am suppose to and notice how much easier it is on me as the therapist. It took a while to get through the session because we were practicing outside at our gueathouse in Koh Lanta Thailand when a. Thai man came up with a big smile. He then said he had never seen a foreigner do Thai massage. Next thing you know he is working on my son then he started working on me. I have to say he knew what he was doing.

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This Thai man has obviously never been to Chiang Mai where there are thousands of foreigners studying Thai Massage every year, and every day! You can watch them practice in public in our city park every afternoon. Smile

It sounds like you made it out of Cambodia back to the land of Thai Massage!

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Module 7

 

Yes Shama, I thought it interesting that the young man had never seen a foreigner doing Thai massage since he himself studied at Wat Po. I know plenty of people who go there from the U.S. to study.

Well tonight I started the stretches from video number seven on my daughter who is fairly flexible. When I first tried stretching her right knee towards her left shoulder she said it hurt so I switched to the rocking and circle movement and when I went back to the original stretch she was able to handle it. When I criss crossed her legs to do a deeper stretch she laughed and said it looked like a game of twister. Don't think she realized how physical Thai massage gets. Different then the massage she is use to getting. I switched partners for the pie slice number 8 and worked with my middle child who is not at all flexible. I had to take it easy. I could practice, just couldn't take it too far nor use too much pressure. To be honest I have more clients like him than my daughter so it was good to see probably more of what it will be like to do this work once I get home.

Yes, we made it back safely to Thailand.

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Most Thais don't get around much. The fact is that Thai Massage is famous all over the world now and there are many thousands of western Thai Massage practitioners. However most Thais haven't caught on to this yet.

Maipenrai - you know this expression?

Good that you have several daughters with different degrees of flexibility to practice on. Practicing on only one person is a very limiting experience.

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Module 8

I really enjoyed the techniques in module 8. The first time I watched it I wasn't too sure how easy some of them would be but even the gallop was more comfortable than I had imagined. I am very familiar with circling so that was easy. I love working the hip in a side lying position. My partner said all the techniques felt good so I guess I was doing something right. I have to admit I would love to have someone practicing this work on me. ?   

I really appreciate the continued communication Shama. I feel very lucky to have found this program.

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I am happy to hear that. I put a lot of energy into creating my courses and into being accessible for support or inspiration. I enjoy getting to know the course students a little, especially when they have unusual stories like in your case - starting a course while traveling in Cambodia with your kids. Smile

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Module 9

Working with my smaller of the three partners that are with me right now, the knee techniques are too much but I can think of many of my clients back home that would love and need that kind of pressure. I can see these side lying techniques coming in handy with some of my prenatal clients that often suffer from hip pain. I like how in the side lying position you can really access some of the hip muscles better. One of the reasons I have been interested in Thai massage for years was because of the ability to use other body parts and save some on my thumbs and hands. I appreciate having so many different techniques being shown as options. My partner enjoyed the techniques just not so much the bamboo mat we have to work on. Working with what we have.

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Bamboo mat - ouch! One thing to look forward to when you get back home.

The saving of thumbs and hands is clearly one of the best features of Thai Massage.

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Module 10

In Krabi and out of a bamboo bungalow so I am back to watching videos and practicing Thai massage.

My partner today is pretty flexible and getting her heel to touch her glute was no problem. The half circle, traction stretch was no problem for her to receive or for me to do on her. She did not need the pressure of my knee in her glute but I can think of several people back home that can. I look forward to practicing on them in the near future. I still really appreciate all the variations of stretches because some just feel more natural. I hope with time I will be good at all of them. 

I love the rhythm and fluid feeling of Thai massage.

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