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Tjasa Gruden - Abdominal Massage course notes
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Tjasa
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April 27, 2017 - 8:50 pm
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This is my first time submitting something on a forum so I hope it goes well. 

I got my first module a week ago and gave myself some time to learn the techniques.

The theoretical part was very familiar to me but some of the techniques were new. I really liked how the energetic aspect is explained. 

I watched the video first and some made notes, tried some of the techniques on myself to feel the pressure. 

The second time I practiced was on my husband and some of the moves were challenging. I tried and practiced all of them. Some were easy and I knew them from Thai massage. The one I was most worried about was the sandwich technique - how to get my hand under my husbands back. The rocking tip helped a lot. The next problem I had was the question of finding the rocking rhythm. It looked difficult on the video but it turned out to be easy. I love how everything is explained and how solutions are offered. I loose my rhythm sometimes while doing the oposite circle massage Wink.

I have to admit that I didn`t really understand the meaning of rocking. I usually try and practice new techniques on my husband and a few weeks back I tried some techniques for abdominal massage that were quite painful. I got to use them once and than he didn`t want to do it anymore. After trying the rocking massage techniques he is now willing to do the second part of the course and he can`t wait to start. He said its relaxing and not painful at all.Smile

We will start the second module today.Cool

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Hi Tjasa, welcome to our community. For your first time posting something in a forum you did great! Smile

I really created this course in response or rather as an alternative to the sometimes too strong and painful techniques which are typically taught in traditional Thai Massage. I never liked them, and I am pretty sure that my clients wouldn't like them either. You will notice that I do not use any direct linear pressure techniques.

The techniques in this course can be done for an entire hour, and instead of causing discomfort, they will put you into a trance, if done correctly.

I cannot take credit for inventing this - I learned most of it in a Chi Nei Tsang training. However there was so much theory and complexity in it that I decided to create something which works well, but is simple enough to learn easily and quickly instead of going through a one or two week live Chi Nei Tsang training.

My main objective was to offer a gentler alternative to the rather painful linear pressure Thai abdominal work and to make it work well with the rocking techniques which I use extensively in my own style of Thai Massage.

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April 30, 2017 - 6:24 pm
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Thank you for your answer. Yes, the technique is very gentle and even my son is letting me practice on him. I must admit it takes some time to do the technicques the right way so my hands don`t get to tired. 

I went through the 2nd module and I was really glad to hear how the techniques can be applied withouth the rocking. Why? Bacause that way I can do the massage to myself Smile. Not all of it but most of the techniques. That wasn`t really possible before cause it`s hard to rock myself, do the massag techniques and be realxed LaughWink.

I do have some problems with changing sides. You showed and explained how to change sides if the massage is done on the floor. But I intend  to practice the massage on the table since I will be combining it with reflex facial massage and I need to find a way to come around the table while remain the rocking. I was able to performe the thumb massage under the rib-cage on the table. While watching the video the liver and stomach massage didn`t look very pleasent but after applying I was told it feels nice. I have never heard of massaging liver and stomach on the body before and I am really impressed. I mentioned before I will be combinig the massage with colon link massage that is done on a face. Since there are reflex zones on the colon on the face I will try to apply light pressure on the zones of the actual colone and the hormonal glands on the face. 

As I said before whithout the rocking part I am now able to practice the massage on myself. I`ve been doing it for a few days now and something is happening - my lower back is hurting  but my abdomen is getting softer. I would say that is a reaction. 

I added one technique - cat paws. It`s gentle and it gives me a chance to feel where the problem parts are. 

There is a special thechnique for womens reproductional organs but is there one for men? For prostate? Can use the same techinque....?

Thank you and have have a really nice day 🙂

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Doing self massage is always difficult, and you definitely cannot do the rocking techniques on yourself. I have done a lot of abdominal self massage, but I use a so-called "massage hammer" which has a vibrating tip and an infrared heat lamp. This has been working very well for me.

When you work on a table you can do all the same techniques, however you cannot do a smooth transition while maintaining the rocking. You will just have to stop and walk around. That's not a big deal. It would be ideal to do a smooth transition, but you can still do a great massage even if you can't do the transition on a table.

Just doing the abdominal massage as shown in the course will be beneficial for the prostate as well, even if you don't work directly on the prostate area. There will be a beneficial effect in the entire area of the mid-section of the body.

There actually are specific techniques for the prostate, but they are not shown in this course because they go way beyond what most people would consider a proper professional massage since you had to touch a man in the area between the penis and the anus.

I have personally used my massage hammer to work exactly in this area on myself, and it feels really good and effective for me. However it is just not something which I would include in a massage course for the general public.

If you want to know how such a massage hammer looks like, I made a video about it here:

Using tools in Thai Massage

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April 30, 2017 - 11:09 pm
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Thank you, it is helpful to know I can change sides like that. I 

I just watched the 3rd video and I will try the presented techniques tomorow. After that I will combine everything into one massage session and report that next week. Smile

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May 26, 2017 - 3:24 pm
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Hello, it`s been a while since I posted. 

I finished all three modules and concentrated on practice. 

The massage looks so easy and smooth when you watch it. While practicing the techniques one by one I had no problems at all. But during this time I was trying to performe a complete massage and it was hard - I didn`t have enough strenght to do the rocking and massage for a long time. So I started with 10 min and proceeded. Since I combine it with facial massage, the abdominal massage lasts around 30 minutes - it depends on a person. I was also working on transitions to be smooth, without stopping. It takes some practice to be able to work the massage withouth being fully concentarted in techniques and to let the energy flow. I combine the rocking part and the massage withouth rocking at the end to concentrate on problem parts. 

I focused on loosening the muscles first and then on stiff parts of the abdomen and colone. I was surprised to hear that the people I massaged really like the liver and stomach massage. They say it`s like a reliefe. I tried massaging with different parts of my arm. I am nocomfortable wit the elbow massage. The other ones I will use. 

I noticed that people don`t feel very comfortable exposing or being touched on the abdominal part of the body. So I had to find the ones who were willing to let me work on that part. 

Abodminal massage is rare in my country but I hope people will soon realise how much they can benefit with it. 

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Sounds all good. The only thing which I want to point out is that there is no use of elbows in the course. The technique which you are referring to is done with the forearms - not with the elbows.

Even 30 minutes of abdominal massage can be plenty good enough for an effective session. It doesn't need to be an hour.

Abdominal massage is not for everyone, not just in your country. Some people will appreciate it and benefit from it, but this is not a massage which I would give to every client who walks into the door. It is quite a specialized therapeutic treatment.

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