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Thomas Kirkle's Thai Massage Hip Therapy Course Progress Notes
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Thomas Kirkle
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Module One

I just watched the first module on assessing the hip.  I did not get that in massage school, or just don’t remember. How the foot position telegraphs hip tension seems so obvious but I have never thought of it that way. Great information which I look forward to applying on clients.

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Hi Tom, welcome to our forum and the Thai Hip Therapy course. Your post looks like a certification post (unless you are just sharing), however I have not seen a certification registration form from you. Could you please send this in since we need that for our records. You will find the link to it in the certification section of your course manual.

Also, assuming that you are going for one of our certificates, please spend a few moments to familiarize yourself with our certification check list:

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I am glad to hear that you got some valuable information out of the first module! Smile

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Module Two

I applied the rocking methods to my partner who is very sensitive to pain in her quadriceps.  I had used the direct thumb pressure before and she could not take it.  The open palm with circular rocking was much better for her.  The foot rocking was fairly easy for me, but rocking with the knee will take some practice.

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Rocking techniques are generally the best solution for pain sensitive clients. I prefer them in general because they are easier on your own body and more pleasant for the clients. It’s better to start working an area with motion/rocking techniques, and then you can always add the direct pressure moves if the client can handle it.

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Module 3

Using my forearms worked really well for me. Especially with partner’s knee bent and draped over mine.  It was easy to apply as much pressure as I needed, or just go light. My partner responded well to this as long as I eased into the muscle each time. I found that I really had to be careful with the knee pressure though, easy to apply too much.

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December 13, 2016 - 7:06 pm
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If you want to develop better balance and sensitivity for knee work, you might be interested in watching this video:

Balance Exercises For Thai Massage Knee Work

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Module 4

The 1,2, and 3rd slices were easy to grasp. I found that using the pillow under the knee in slice 2 as you suggested worked well for my partner.  I liked the kneading of the adductors, and even the hamstrings, in slice 3 to help get a little more stretch. I was surprised that my partner could handle the kNeading but she actually liked it.

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Module 5

I found the forearm roll with a rocking along the adductors to be easy and effective in slice 4. I have to modify my stance a bit because my knees won’t let me get down very far. I need to work more on being conscience of my breathing, it’s easy to take for granted. The deeper stretch while rocking both hips can be pretty intense but is simple to ease up and still work.

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Awareness of breath is something which is normally never taught in massage training, including Thai Massage. I have added it in because it is very helpful in several ways as you will learn throughout this course.

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Module 6

The finger hook circles in the hip crease helped my partner get better access into the slice 5 stretch. I was able to make it more comfortable for her using the rocking as the full stretch was too much. The standing stretch for larger clients provided a lot more leverage, even though I’m not small it still helps.

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Module 7

The large circular stretch through the full hip range is particularly useful for my partner as it removes the intensity of the linear stretches. I found the double forearm circles in slice 7 to require a lot of coordination, as you pointed out, but seems to be pretty effective on the muscles of the outer thigh area.

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December 20, 2016 - 8:59 pm
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Both linear pressure and linear stretches tend to be much more intense than any motion-based pressure or stretches. Traditional Thai Massage tends to be mostly linear whereas I tend to use more motion techniques.

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Module 8

I use side lying in my regular table massage when I can because it really gives more availability to the hips and back. I tried the side lying hip massage on a client during my routine and she enjoyed it, even though she doesn’t have hip problems.  I used my thumbs to probe for any tightness and followed up with palm and finger circles. My client had larger hips and it was a little difficult for me to get the correct height to bear down with straight arms for more body weight pressure. Should I have rolled her over more to lower her hip?

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Rolling someone more over has two problems. First, if you work on a massage table, the knee of the bent leg might slide off the table which feels quite weird for the client. 

Second, the more you push the hip down, the more pressure the client will feel in the opposite shoulder and arm which they are lying on. This can feel really uncomfortable and even painful.

It is best to keep the client in the 90 degree position. If you cannot get enough weight on the hip in this way, the two options I can think of are to either lower the table a bit, or keep a little stepping stool or block under the table which you can step on to get better leverage.

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Module 9

I found the side lying elbow rocking with circles to be very effective and easy to do. The leg draped over the knee (raising the hip) in the prone position is also easy but a little harder to get good leverage/weight into the forearm and elbow. And I’m always a fan of some good percussive technique.

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Module 10

I used several of these hip flexor stretches on my partner and a client.  Very nice. A couple of the stretches I could not do because of my own inflexibility with my knees, which I’m working on. I’m glad there are several options for varying degrees of flexibility in both the clients and therapists.

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That’s one the best aspects of Thai Massage – there is so much flexibility and so many ways to adapt and modify. That’s really the art of it.

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Module 11

I liked stretch with the glute medeus foot compressions.  The hip flexor stretch with the knee brace on the glute was also effective. And the recap of the modules at the end was very helpful.

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