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September 5, 2012 - 10:48 am
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I had a bit of trouble getting the video downloads but now I am a seasoned retriever of these resource modules.  I have been practicing everyday with my daughter and having a wonderful time.

I love the approach, the teaching is wonderful Shama, I am about to start practicing the flow from module 3 foot massage into the module4  this afternoon.  Fantastic course, 3 days seems to be a good time frame for me so far.  I am managing course material so far.Kiss

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Great! It looks like you are becoming a computer expert along with a Thai Massage expert with this course:)

I am glad that you like the teaching and that the 3 day timing is working for you. Actually I ran a survey some time ago and pretty much everyone said that one video every 3 days seems to be a good pace.

When I originally started this course, I felt that selling people one big DVD with 200 moves on it would not inspire them to really work with the material. However one module showing up every three days in your inbox provides a sense of continuity, of structure, of regular progress, and of interaction. It motivates students to keep working with the material, unlike one big DVD which can easily be put on a shelf until you "get around to it one day".

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September 25, 2012 - 6:11 am
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I have had a busy time, peak work and visiting family, and wanted to say that even though it has been harder to find time it is still possible.  I am not a young woman and my physical condition is excellent considering, but I do have a knee that can at times become a bit uncomfortable.  Luckily I have ways of bringing it back into balance quickly.  For someone with bad knees this massage form would be virtually impossible. I am happy that I am still able to practice without major discomfort, and enjoy working on the floor.  Feels much more grounded.  Ayurvedic massage is done on the floor in some areas of India as well.   Blessing on my knees so that I can continue on with the course and practicing on into the future.  Love that you never leave us out in the cold Shama.  It must take up a lot of your time, checking forums, blogs, answering skype and facebook queries.  Even though you are so far away, you are able to give more support than some tutors I have known who are physically in the same space.  Great process to be a part of.  Kiss

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Looking forward to the next module that ties all the leg modules together.  It can be challenging to carry out these warm up and stretches with flow and grace.  Also looking forward to the later modules and working on other parts of the body.  I know how important the feet and legs are in regards to energy flow, grounding and the flow of the rest of the body.  Being able to release blockages and loosen up from the feet up, then moving in to rest of the body will be great.  Can't believe I have been working on the 10th module already.  Already a quarter of the way through the course.Smile

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September 25, 2012 - 8:17 am
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You are right, if someone has bad knees, then Thai Massage is not feasible, at least not on the floor. A lot of it can be adapted to table work, so that's an option for people with knee challenges who still want to do some Thai Massage. However floor work gives you more options and better ergonomics than table work.

I am glad you appreciate all my support. I really do pour lots of energy and time into it, and I love doing it!

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My internet was down for a week, so I have gotten a bit behind but catching up.  Module 14 went missing but I didn't watch 15 till I had caught up with the resent module. My last post is in limbo, can't find it, I know I put it in an incorrect place and it was fixed up.

At my last posting,  I was waiting for Module 11 to arrive so I could study all the leg moves put together. Really enjoyed this Module. Helped me to feel more confident. Concepts have sunk in deeply. My working with clients has changed, more flowing, less set to routine.  Using concepts from the course more and more.  I am practicing opening my heart to take in the knowledge being passed on rather than trying to memorize every technique.

I have gone from feeling out of control with all of the leg stretches, to a growing understanding after the hip modules. The pie concept is so helpful.  I now realize that I can use different methods according to the occasion and client.  Love the different levels, different versions.  We Westerners are conditioned to get it all and get it right.  Understanding we don't need to do everything at once, takes the pressure off.  Working with what feels OK for me and my client is happening. 'Use what feels right' -  is sinking in.

Once the leg moves were done I have found the hip and abdomen modules much easier.  Not as much positioning changes, easier to take in.  After watching and practicing Module 14 and 15, feel like I am back in the flow again.  Loved the hip rocking techniques, the abdomen work is gentle and if done with care, very useful.  In Ayurvedic Traditions, a woman who has given birth is given gentle, focused massage to the tummy, every day for forty days.  I have had 6 children and the thought of this made me drool.  It is such a guarded place.  So many important organs that are protected within our abdomens.  I am sure these movements will be a great benefit to some of my clients.  Being reverent and mindful of the powerful emotions that can be held here is important.Kiss

Now listening and watching with more awareness,  taking in the essence and allowing this to sink into my being.  Recently had quite a spiritual re awakening and loving that I am part of this interesting process.  Using the latest in technological communication to pass on heartfelt healing, perfect.

Keep feeling that this is just the right time for me to be undertaking this journey, love this process, thanks again and again Shama.

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Thanks for this wonderful update. It is obvious that it comes right from your heart, and I am very glad to see that the concepts are sinking in more and more. I can see that you really understand that Thai Massage is not just a collection of techniques, but a way to move energy and not just muscles and tissue. I am sure you will be doing excellent work with your clients.

I share your appreciation for abdominal work very much. It is a great skill to have and it feels wonderful receiving it. Keep up the good work!

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I am hoping I am finally posting in the correct place, thanks to your help Sharma.

The shoulder module was lovely and looks so good, feels perfect for those people with tightness and discomfort in this area.  I also loved the arm and hand module.  People don't realize how relaxing hand and arm work can be.  When you stop to think, there is so little that we do in a day that does not involve our hands and arms.  Enjoyed practicing the moves from this module as well.

Just finished watching module 18 and looking forward to practicing this latest method of moving around the body.  Tricky utilizing the arm and shoulder stretch as part of the transition.  

Will be trying out these latest shoulder and spinal twists on my daughter after I have watched it again.

All good, will see if this post ends up in the correct place.

It feels so lovely to have you out there Shama, keeping tabs on us and assisting whenever you can.

Looking forward to practice, thanks again, till next time.Embarassed

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Yes, you are in the right place! The forum is finally bending to your wishes Laugh.

Regarding arm and hand work - I could get a whole hour of hand massage and I would be perfectly happy. Luckily my wife sometimes gives me quite a bit of arm and hand massage. She knows I really need it! It helps to have a spouse who is a massage therapist as well. We work on each other quite a bit, especially on those high stress areas for massage therapists, like arms, hands, shoulders and upper back.

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Once again,m the Summary was fantastic, seeing how it can all flow together.  I especially love the hip and lower back stretches, so good for myself and my daughter.  It is so easy to see why it is called Thai yoga massage.  I worked on my daughters lower back pain and used techniques and moves to great benefit.  I was basically taking her body through a yoga session that I might do for myself.

Now we are working on prone side of  body and again we are using elbows for legs.  Really liked the knee technique, can see how the previous work on front of legs ties in with the back of the legs.

The legs are probably the most difficult because of the position changes of the body but getting the hang of it.  The biggest challenge so far has been the beautiful flowing move from one side to the other around the top of the head and keeping the stretching happening at the same time.

My first attempt was a wash out.  I practiced the move with my djembe and my knees did not have the strength to get up without a lift from my hand.  I have gotten better though and it has encouraged me to do more yoga and strengthening this part of my body that has gotten a bit weak over the winter with not as much yoga as usual.  Feel like I am back on track now and getting closer to the strength and flow needed to perform these flowing moves from side to side.  all good.

Working on Module 21 and about to receive 22 tomorrow. Can't believe that we are more than half way through the course.  Take care Shama, look forward to the next module.Embarassed

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October 30, 2012 - 2:18 am
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I always say that it is good for Thai Massage practitioners to practice yoga - it definitely helps. The Thais don't have to practice yoga to do Thai Massage since they are used to sitting cross legged on the floor, or squatting or sitting Japanese style with the knees folded under them.

The leg stretches are definitely the most challenging part of Thai Massage. Once you learn that, you can do anything else easily. I know, the flowing transitions are not as easy as they look like. When you get them figured out, you will enjoy your Thai Massage work twice as much since you will feel like a real artist.

Congratulations for passing the midway point of the course!

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Enjoyed Module 22 and have been practicing these stretches and techniques, that flowed on very nicely from module 21 after the warm ups in module 20.  Love your teaching style Shama.  I never get tired of you saying, use your body, think softness, use your breath, focus on Hara etc.  Just put myself under a bit of pressure the other day when I signed up for the foot massage course after receiving the offer via email.  Was a bit nervous when the first module came in, hoping I have not taken on too much.

About to look at Module 23, reading it is about sacrum and glutes.  Can't wait.  This has always been an area for me that needs work.  You are right, very few therapists work on this area.  It is so soothing for me having a slight sway back to receive touch in this area. Looking forward to trying this next module on my daughter who has lower back issues.  Forgot to say last time, very happy your wife is also a massage therapist and that you get regular treatment.  How lucky are you?

Take care, look forward to my next adventure in Thai Massage.Cool

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I don't think you have to worry about taking on too much. Just look at the foot massage course as an extension of the Thai Massage training. Anyway, it has only 7 modules, not 35 like the Thai Massage course. And if you cannot keep up with the every-other-day schedule of the new course, just fit it in whenever you can. No need to feel pressure, it is not a life or death situation. You will be fine. Laugh

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I added a post for Module 23 but it seems to have disappeared into cyberspace.

I loved this module.  The Sacrum massage techniques are wonderful and I have been trying them out of family and friends and everyone has found it to be very beneficial.  this is my favorite module so far.  I have been working a bit on my own doing some work in sacral groove and along the outer edges and also practicing a few rolling techniques that stretch deep into the Glute family.

I find that when I work on others with these techniques it is gently exercising my own SI joints for some reason.  I get a warm relaxed feeling in that area.  Especially with the moving knees move at the end.  I was shocked how tiring it was to do this though.  You make it all looks so easy.  It got my heart rate up and I get quite warm when doing this.  Interesting.

Still happily engaging in this wonderful learning environment.  Shama, your sincerity, generosity and grace are inspiring to watch.  Hope you don't get tired of hearing, Thankyou.  Thankyou yet again.

Module 24 has arrived, time to watch the next lesson.

regards Lynney

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I always love hearing from you, Lynney!

I love sacrum and glute work too. It feels great and in my experience everyone loves it. I even produced a special sacrum therapy course that goes even deeper.

The knee technique for the glutes should not be tiring as you described. There is something not right with how you use your body or your ergonomics are not right. Try playing around with it and see if you can figure out a way to make it easier on you. It is hard for me to give specific advice since I cannot see how you are doing it. If you cannot figure it out, try shooting a little video of you doing it and send it to me so that I can get a better idea why it tires you so much.

If you don't know how to send a video, you upload it to http://dropbox.com which is a free service.

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Hello again, can't believe how quickly time is going. So after Module 23, my favourite, Module 24 and 25 have been moving on from there with nice work on the back and incorporating other body parts.  Knees, elbows and I love any technique that has rocking.  These rocks always seem so free flowing.

The flowing circular movements with hands and palms and fingers are also very pleasant to do.

Module 26 was a deepening of back work for those big clients that need forearm, knees and I like the last move of pulling upwards on the neck and circular moves on the trapezius and shoulder.

The whole back series have been great.  My previous work last year on anatomy trains with focus on the new frontier in massage - the fascia is a great background to have with this type of massage.

I can see how the rocking, circular - (especially the varied pressure for these), the traction and contraction are all helping the fascia structure to unlock.  I have been experimenting when doing yoga as many of the techniques that I can do on myself.  The ergonomics are limited in most variations but at least I can get a handle on how it might feel.  My stretching has become so much more focused within rather than just a routine body movement.  i am feeling all the muscles that are being worked on and trying different ways to get to targeted parts of the body.  Ayurvedic massage has Mama therapy - working on energy points and to use the varied pressure is quite a major step forward.  It changes the energy of the marma therapy to do this.  It is also so valuable because the varied pressure is helping to avoid damage to the thumbs.

I think what has been happening with the sacrum technique of zig zagging knees into the glutes is that I have been stopping breathing in my attempt to not be too heavy or something.  That is why I get out of breath.  It is weird.  It seems to be getting better.

I have been having lights go on all over the place.  The concepts of the pie, looking for all possible planes of movement for a given joint and working on all of the have been great.  I also love all the information you have been giving on how to recognize stiff hips, knees, ankles 9 other foot massage video)  This is so helpful and the variation for these are fantastic.  You are giving us such a great set of tools to work with for flexible people and all the degrees of lacking flexibility.

The gallop is also a great new introduction feels very belly dancey. Having a great time,

thank you once again Shama.  I have been working a lot lately - I pay the rent by working on the computer all day sometimes and so have got a bit behind in my posts.

Till next time, bye for nowSmile

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November 12, 2012 - 3:46 pm
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I know all about working a lot, I understand. Even if you get behind on posting, when you do post it is so elaborate and real and straight from the heart that I really enjoy reading your updates.

I love those rocking and flowing and circular movements myself so much  that I created an entire course about this kind of technique - Thai Rocking Massage. This is something which you might consider for the future. I think you would get a lot out of that.

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Module 27 has been another enjoyable experience.  Working on the trapezius, the upper back area and the wonderful stretches.  Of course I know the benefit of the Cobra stretching for myself, but being able to replicate this for a client is wonderful.  Percussion is a nice relaxing way to calm and soothe the body after some heavy stretching.  Enjoyed the whole back series - great stuff.

Module 28 The Summary modules are always a relief for me, a time to breathe and revise.  Love watching you putting the latest movements together and observing how flowing and creative it can be when we have practiced enough and feel comfortable with what we are doing. I always feel great if I have chosen a particular sequence that you follow as well.  I usually work out how to string a sequence of moves together that can be flowing and make sense to me.  Love doing this, being creative with the choice of moves.

Module 29.  Ah I love this aspect.  I have used working on the side technique for pregnant woman and also for hip work with my Ayurvedic Massage.  You have given us some more loosening and relaxing moves for tight and injured hips.  Loved this module as well.  Looking forward to seeing how you work on shoulders in this position.  The sitting on the thigh is interesting.  My daughter is very slight in build and I was a bit apprehensive about doing this but it was surprisingly effective. I am going on a holiday over late December and early January, so will be pleased to have finished the course by then.

Love what you do Shama, I will be back learning again next year to deepen my experience with this wonderful Massage that you teach with such generosity of spirit.  Feel blessed to have stumbled across your teaching.  Kind regards LynneyCool

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Looks like you are really into it. Your enthusiasm comes through loud and clear! It seems that this course and my style of presenting it is a good match for you. I am very happy about that.

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Module 30.

Continuing on with the side position.  Nice moves for the back with heel of hand, thumbs.  Using the knee and legs to support arm positions and leaning. The stretches are lovely.  The spinal twist in rocking motion is very nice.  I love all these rocking movements, especially those where there is a flow between pushing and pulling.  These feels great to me when it works properly and my daughter enjoys it. I love the "banana stretches" you called them Bow stretches.  A bit harder to do on a cricketer than it is on my daughter but great to be able to use the leaning back with body to create this stretch.

Working with the cricketers has been great for my practice.  Much greater experience with different sized recipients with different parts of the body to focus on.

 

Module 31.  The shoulders.  what a wonderful set of moves.  Not easy though.  I have not quite grasped the arm circling with shoulder stretch and the other three moves with the variation on pushing down on shoulder and stretching it back in various degrees of intensity.  I am sure as I practice it more I can get more flow and sensitivity.  But great way to work on shoulders , we can work on the full range of movement.  Something difficult to do in prone or supine position. I often work on someone's shoulder with them sitting in a chair. I like this side position.  Looking forward to the last module on shoulders in this position.  I have plenty of friends and family wanting shoulder work.

Great tips for keeping the recipent's body stable throughout the various moves, arms hips etc.

Can't believe I am working on the 31st module. Laugh

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