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February 21, 2024 - 3:29 am
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Module 22

Honestly your write up of "can Thai Massage help serious disease" was the most impactful information for me in this module. Some of it was things I had heard a long time ago and others were thing you just come to realize over time but it was very helpful to have it reiterated and brought back into focus.

"Shooting for the stars while recognizing our limitations is an important attitude to develop. We never know when we will see a miraculous result, and we need to be open to this possibility.

At the same time we need to be detached and recognize the limitations of a situation not as a negative factor, but as a simple fact."

"Sometimes the greatest service you can do is offer your caring, loving touch." The whole write up you did was very clearly and well put on what is the therapists end goals and the clients end goals and where the two will meet in the end. Applause to you

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Thank you, I am glad that the article resonated with you. Smile

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Module 23

haha well what can I say other than the sacrum work made my mother almost drool and put my father to sleep. Laugh I do a lot of work on gluts normally because it is a largely neglected and very abused part of the body but it is always nice learning new movements. Especially one so soothing like the rocking.Wink

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You must be doing something right to get this kind of a result.

We address many neglected areas in our Thai Massage training, like chest, glutes, sacrum, knees, abdomen, and feet. I have heard therapists say that 3 minutes on the feet is enough, and that you should never touch chest, glutes, sacrum, or abdomen. Well, as you have seen in this course, we don't agree with these ideas, and generally the clients love to be touched in all these areas, if you are doing it right.

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Module 24

No I've never been one to hold back. You have to look at and work the body as a whole. Sometimes giving more focus and time to certain areas but you cannot disregard or ignore an area of muscles in the body and expect good results. It's not logical and you will see mediocre results at best. You talk a bit about stressing your hands and wrists in this module again. The last modality I studied was ashiatsu or barefoot massage for that reason. My hands and shoulders were really starting to feel the wear and tear from doing a regular deep. I remember you telling some funny stories about other massages you've had. Have you ever tried a massage done with feet? What was your take?

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I have had massages done with feet, even if not exclusively. I find it useful, but also limiting. I think it can be a good general massage, but there is no way to find small specific areas that need attention with the feet. You just don't have the sensitivity in your feet that you have in your fingers. For me, footwork is a great supplementary tool, but I would never use it as my only or as my primary tool. For good therapeutic work it is much better to make use of a number of different body parts.

However I know people whose hands are in such bad shape that they had to change to mostly footwork. It can be done, but I think it will be harder to find clientele since footwork only will not be appreciated by everyone. If you truly want to do footwork only, then you could accomplish more by using oil. There is a lot of good footwork in Thai Massage, but this was never meant to be done exclusively without using other body parts.

Did you see this video already?

Amazing Yam Khang Thai Massage

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wow that is an interesting video. What are the different oils in the 2 containers? I don't do only footwork but it is handy for the burly people Wink. Really like #2 knee technique but they are all very useful depending on client.Laugh

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"Wow, that is an interesting video. What are the different oils in the 2 containers?"  - To be honest, I have no idea. I filmed this during a big festival, and the therapist was constantly busy doing sessions. Plus he didn't speak one word of English anyway.

"I don't do only footwork but it is handy for the burly people"  -  That's the best use for it anyway.

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Module 26

It's fun to see you interacting with your wife. Smile The forearm work is so interesting. The position you sit yourself into allows for a huge reach that is very comfortable to perform in. Love it!

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Chapter 27

When doing the cobra stretches is the client supposed to try to keep their head straight like that or let it relax down towards their chest? also is she holding your hands as well or are you only holding on the power version of the cobra?

 On the shoulder and upper back stretch you make it look so easy to keep their wrist propped up on you upper knee. LaughCry It keeps trying to fall down when I do it.

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Chapter 28

So many good reminders in this review module. Keeping contact throughout the session. lol I see in the review video that you answer one of my questions of the client needs to hold on as well for the cobra. Ive been wondering what is your take on chiropractors? You talked a bit about the body naturally shifting (cracking) when put into certain positions but just straight up going to a chiropractor to get cracked. I used to go twice a month many years ago but with time it seems like it is a limited service that doesn't have lasting results. It seemed like I needed more exercise and stretching and massage for better lasting results than what I could find with chiropractic 5 minute session. Do they do this in Thailand? If so is it more comprehensive than what is offered in the US? It does work better combined with massage but many people I know choose between one or the other.

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"When doing the cobra stretches is the client supposed to try to keep their head straight like that or let it relax down towards their chest?"  -  I have never told a client what to do with their head. I don't like micromanaging my clients. They can do whatever feels right to them.

"Also is she holding your hands as well or are you only holding on the power version of the cobra?"  -  Yes, I tell them to hold onto my wrist. Because if they don't, you have to exert too much pressure on their arm which can hurt them. If I hold on and they hold on, there is not too much pressure on their arm and it feels more comfortable and natural.

Regarding chiropractors, I also believe - and have had this confirmed by clients - that the quick adjustments from chiropractors don't hold up as well as more profound Thai Massage work. Also Chiropractic mostly addresses one area whereas Thai Massage deals with the entire body. This is another factor why many clients feel that they derive more benefit from good Thai Massage work than from occasional chiropractic work.

This is of course a generalization. There are amazing chiropractors and lousy Thai Massage therapists. If such were the case, then the balance shifts to chiropractic. But if we compare a highly skilled Thai Massage therapist with an average chiropractor, I would say that Thai Massage will provide more benefits. Again, this is based on feedback of my clients - it is not my speculation.

There are some chiropractors in Thailand, but it is not as popular as in the Western world. There are also some Thai Massage therapists who can do very similar work to chiropractors. It's as if they combine the two styles. I can do some of those 'back-cracking' moves as well, and some clients keep asking for them. But I don't teach them in my courses because I am not confident that this would be safe to teach online.

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Chapter 29

wow what an awesome maneuver sitting on the inner thigh is! I made my husband do it on me cause I was so curious how that would feel to have that much broad pressure and just wow. Very Relaxing

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Chapter 30

Excellent stretches throughout this whole module. Don't come even close to your graceful rhythm you have going on in your push pull spinal stretch SmileCry but practice practice. Also a good reminder to err on the side of caution and be gentle. 

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Well, if you keep doing it for a few years, you will look just as graceful or better. Smile

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I'm excited to get this down so I can use these on people! So many people have stiff or frozen shoulders. Terrible mobility and I've used different techniques but never side lying which while watching the video totally makes sense because it allow you to roll and maneuver much more effectively!  Loose shoulders here we come!

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I can already see the frozen shoulders melting under your touch when I read your enthusiastic post! Smile

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Chapter 32

Awesome! more shoulder release goodness! I am loving this.Laugh And so are my receivers! Thank you for more amazing lessons

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Chapter 33

I can understand why the sitting position is not used that often. I've been trying to have better posture and get others to as well and its a struggle. Doesn't matter if its children or adults. Bad posture is pretty rampant. These stretches are cool but you are very correct to keep saying be careful!

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Yes, they are not for everyone. But some clients will love it. It's all about having options.

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