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September 23, 2022 - 1:24 pm
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Module 22

 

 Alot of my clients feel pain in the knees with the leg stretches I do have a couple that I can do the leg more to the side to get a better stretch but they are already very flexible and dont feel much of a quad stretch.. I feel that my clients prefer the alternative stretch with lifting of the leg instead of bending  and pushing the foot into the butt. I personally am tender in my hips flexors and gleuts so I would not be able to have the knee press in mine. For my clients we had to work up for me to be able to use my knee in that area.

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  Any time I can use a rocking motion in session I do. I love using rocking on the legs and hip area. It helps my clients relax the area, I feel they tend to tense up when I work in the hip flexor area since it can be tender. I love the idea of rocking for sacral work. Being in a smaller more conservative town gleut/ sacral work is harder to have clients accept. Being clothed has been easier for them to relax to the idea.

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True, rocking generally works for everyone and with many techniques. I guess you know that we have an entire course just about rocking. Rocking is an essential skill for Thai Massage therapists.

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  This is a great starter for back work. Most of these moves I already use in my regular massage sessions. I never realized how much I already pull from Thai and Lomi in my sessions. I know alot of my clients like the deeper/ firmer work and being able to discover new moves to add to my already existing routine is helpful. Mainly so my regulars dont feel like every session is repetitive.

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  So I already do elbow in the groove but what is new is using both elbows in the low back and pushing away. I Do use 1 elbow in the low back/QL area but use my other hand and a buffer for displaced pressure and push down and in. Doing the 2 elbows on a bigger person is great but I feel doing this on a smaller person is harder on my low back since I am bending down more. I will have to skip this or figure out a alternative/like move for the smaller clients.

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Sounds like you are a natural for Thai Massage since you had already pulled from it. Smile

Remember, the techniques are not meant to be used on everyone. It is always your choice to determine what works best for a client, and what works best for your body as well. The techniques are options to choose from.

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  My clients love elbow along the groove of the spine. Most my clients already like a deep pressure massage so I tend to use palms elbown and forearms already.. Im not a fan of the galloping it seems to throw my groove off it doesnt go with my natural flow of movement. Im more of a walking elephant person. Even when I start with the gallop I noticed I naturally went back into a back and forth movement. Most my clients are so tight in the upper traps and romboids Its nice to be able to give deep relaxed pressure with the forearms and palms not everything needs to be light and fluffy.

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 I Love shoulder work. I find most peoples scaps are stuck down and need extra work. Its almost satisfying being able to get under as far as you can and try to release. Its amazing how limited in range of motion most people are in their shoulders. My clients have loved me getting under there. I also like when clients are lying on their back to pull their arm over and get to the under scap from their armpit area. Its wierd for them at first but it helps so much.

  Cobra its a balancing act obviously I cant do this with too big of clients I dont feel like I can get good leverage to pull back. I have a couple dancers and yogis that really enjoy this move. It does give a great stretch that they cant achieve on their own.

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  I like watching the end videos of the modules all combined. Im curious how long your sessions often run and how you schedule. Do you have a set 60 or 90 minute session or do you just go until you feel the session is done. Im trying to figure out how to add this in my exisiting schedule. I like the idea of no time restraints  because obviously some areas dont need a lot of attention while others do, and you dont want to feel rushed. But I also hate running over, I never leave my next client waiting.

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I don't know if that's for you, but in my case, I have never done less than 2-hour sessions. I don't like feeling that I have to rush or that I cannot properly address an issue of my client. Actually, the truth is that I always charged for two hours, and I mostly ended up working for up to 2.5 hours. I know that this is not what you might want to do, but that was always how I did it.

It is quite possible to do shorter sessions, but you will have to cut out lots of techniques, and you will have a hard time doing serious therapeutic work. If someone has issues that need work, I typically ask the client if they want me to do a full-body session and spend a few minutes extra on their trouble spot, or if they would prefer that I don't do a full-body session and focus more on their trouble spot. In almost all cases they choose the second option.

Because I have a tendency to run over, I never scheduled my sessions very tightly. I could do that because I always limited my work to two 2-hour sessions per day. Since that takes about 5 hours of my time with initial talking, some extra time, and a break in between sessions, that is what I can handle easily energetically. More sessions than that, and I use up more energy than I can generate.

Anyway, that's just my style and my story. You will need to find out what works for you.

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 Clients enjoyed hip work on side. I feel this is way can be more beneficial than prone. Although in prone work the hip is in a more relaxed position and I feel I dont get as much resistance going in deeper. a few of my clients were more hesitant with elbow in this position it seemed tender.Using a pillow or bolster definitely helps maintain posture, along with a good pillow for the neck. Im not comfortable doing the sitting on the leg. It will take time for me to be able to use my knees and other body parts I dont use normally in session to get the right feeling of my clients body.

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  I generally get alot of pregnant clients so I love the idea of side back work. I already do side lying on table for pregnancy massage with pillows and bolsters. Getting them on and off the floor/ mat may be a challenge as they get further along 🙂 Its harder for clients to get comfortable on their side in general so I'm always cautious of posture and bolstering so the client isn't rotated or uncomfortable.  Clients are loving the back stretches. I do have a couple clients who are golfers who have low back issues that Ive been able to get in and work on. I got great feed back they liked the added stretches, in a normal session I work QL and IS joints but am not able to get a full stretch with just table massage so these will definitely help alot.

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Take your time with the sitting position and the knee work. You can do Thai Massage just fine without them. They are additional tools that can come in very handy for some clients, but if you are not comfortable with them, it is better to wait until you are so comfortable with the entire system that you can go back to them.

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  This is my favorite work. I love working on neck and shoulders, even in regular massage sessions. Most my clients have  shoulder issues with decreased range of motion. These movements and stretches have been great for all my clients. Being able to get more range of motion in a comfortable way. and really being able to get in under the scapula to try to release from ribs has been great. All my clients love this.

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Module 32

  Continuing side lying Shoulder. These stretches are great. My clients really love the push and pull with thumb along scapula spine. And being able to hook the fingers under to pull the scapula out from the ribs. I feel you can really increase mobility and range of motion just by doing these 2 techniques. I feel Having clients on their side for shoulder work is the most beneficial. You can really get in and release better than when client is laying down.

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I am glad you get some good use out of these two shoulder modules. By the way, they are way beyond what you typically learn in Thai Massage training for shoulders.

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 Sitting position Im not a fan. Most my clients are taller than me to begin with. Its hard to get good positioning and leverage. I do chair massage already and this seems more effective so I can stand and it seems more comfortable for my clients. When pushing in they have more support so they are not fighting back. So its nice to see more technique to add to chair massage especially in traps. I probably wont include sitting position in ground work.

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Module 34

 Too much contact can always be an issue. Coming from massage background we were always taught boundaries and never cross into that intimacy area. So Im always over cautious about how much of my body touches my clients even with friends who are clients. It seems awkward still to me. It is something that I will have to really try to be conscience of and keep telling myself that its not an issue. But also having massage clients transition to thai and already have those boundaries in place it has been some great laughs during practice.

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Communication is one of my strongest attributes. My clients love when I explain what muscles Im working on and why they could be huring in an area. I always try to give them stretches to do at home and follow up ideas. Im always checking in during sessions. My sessions are very informal so my clients feel free to say if something hurts or if the want more in an area.

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