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Hello,

My name is Ronda Bartley. I have been learning a form of Thai Massage (mixed with other techniques) here in Austin but am very interested in the concept of Thai Rocking Massage. I think it will be great for anyone of any age but especially those that may not be able to do other forms of massage or do not want to take their clothes off. I'm also very interested because it is so portable and can be done anywhere. I already have a Thai floor mat and bolsters.  I may be a little slower on getting my notes on here because I work mostly at nights and have to find a time that I can practice on others since most people work during the day. I can't wait to complete this course and do all of the others as well!

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Hi Ronda, I am glad to see that you got the forum registration to work. Smile

Welcome to our community. I used to live in Austin before I moved to Thailand. There are quite a few therapists from Austin in our community.

Also please take a moment and familiarize yourself with our certification check list to make sure that it is all correctly organized:

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It sounds like you have a good background for learning the Thai Rocking Massage system.

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Module 1

I practiced module one on my roommate Rebecca. I liked the position of extending my leg over her body and stabilizing my body so I could pull up on the other side. It gave me a nice stretch. Although, I did tire out after a while. I'm excited that not only can I work my client but this will strengthen my body as well. I do need quite a bit more practice getting on and off of the floor with ease.

Rebecca really liked the rocking. She said it felt good. I was watching the tutorial for the second time and played and stopped it as I went through each technique on her. It appears that my left hand is much weaker. She noticed that the placement was different than when using my right hand and also my left hand went it more circular motions than just the rocking up and down (technique one). She really like the isolated friction on the top of her thighs, she has tight quads as well as tight hip flexors.  I went through all of the techniques on her one at a time and she was happy with how all of them felt. 

This morning I was really sore in my lower back and hip flexors and I found self rocking to to be a great technique to even use on myself. I was on the floor in prone position, up on my elbows and did self rocking in my lower body. It was great because I knew exactly where the pain was and could slowly rock more and more in to the pain.

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Yes I finally got in. Love your courses and can't wait to take more of them. How long did you live in Austin? I may be moving back to Oklahoma in about six months, I'm going to see how it goes here. I've been here just over two years. I'm a new therapist, I just graduated from massage school in June. I'm really excited to have this as my career and my own skill set after going through a divorce a few years ago.  I look forward to working with you more.

Ronda

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Ronda, I lived in Austin for quite a few years. It's hard to say how many because I was traveling around the world so much for long periods of time. Austin is still my home base in the US when I visit. I have good friends there and my daughter and my grand children live there.

It looks like you already expanded the course by doing self rocking. Great! Smile

If you felt sore the next day, focus on finding the best ergonomic position where you can work with least effort, focus on being relaxed while you do the techniques, and focus on working with body weight, and not using muscles power as much as possible.

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Module 2

I typed up this module a few days ago but something must have happened because it is not here. So I am going to type it again.

 

I went through Module 2 with my roommate Rebecca and the chi machine was a little difficult. I was able to get her whole body to move by focusing on her hips however it wasn't very smooth. Part of it I think was just a strength issue of holding both of her legs and trying to rock her body. It was a little awkward for both of us. The other rocking move went much better. I really liked being able to brace her foot against my leg while rocking and tracking the other leg. I had the same issue as module one though. I did it on the right side much easier but when I moved to the left side, my left hand pulled her skin under her ankle a little. I think it will just take some time for the left arm to become as strong and my body use to using both arms equally.

When I mentioned before my body was sore it was not from doing rocking massage, but I found self rocking to help with my own soreness in my body.

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Module 3,

Module three was great for tight thighs which is a concern for Rebecca. This technique was easy to do and comfortable on my body. She is giving me good feedback and really enjoys the rocking. I also really like the different positions you show as far as the way the therapist can sit. This really is going to help get my own body flexible. It's nice to have a way to work on tightness that is not just compression only.

I have been incorporating a lot of rocking into my table massage and had been wanting a better way to work on tight hips or for someone who is stiff throughout their legs. I can see where you need more body weight especially for the last technique but am thinking the leg rocking might adapt to the table or to a low table.

I was wondering if you experience people being sensitive of ticklish when working directly in the hip joint. I had to be a little more careful there or try to adapt my hand position when working in these areas.

I am also going to try the chi machine again on my daughter who has a light body and see if i can do it a little easier just to learn the technique then go back and try on my roommate again.

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I rarely had issues with ticklish clients, although it can happen. From what I have read here in the forum, kids tend to be a lot more ticklish than adults when course students practice on them.

There is no doubt that it will take some time to be in 'flow' with some of the rocking techniques. It generally doesn't happen instantly. The Chi Machine definitely falls into this category.

Not having the same pressure or dexterity in both hands equally is something I have often observed in students. That's just something you need to develop and be aware of. I know from experience that from the receiver's end it feels quite strange if the action of the left and right hand is not equal.

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Module 4

I loved the squeeze, lift and rock in this segment. It is very easy to do and I have been incorporating it quite a lot on the table in sports massage. The other techniques I really like too. I'm not very smooth with changing my positions on the floor. I know all of this takes time and practice. However, once I got into position for both the leg traction technique and the bent knew leg pull technique and did them correctly it felt very natural. I am glad you emphasized that the knee needs to be pulled to the middle. I had tried this technique before and was not successful at all. With the correct sitting position and pulling the bent leg to the middle, the hip pulled off the ground nicely just as you said it would. I'm also really trying to focus on using my whole body as sometimes I notice I do try to use just my arms on these. After doing the one with the straight leg traction I just did some basis rocking (compress and pull without the turn in) and it was really nice and easy to do. Can't wait to use these more on my clients. I don't have many opportunities to work on the floor yet so I adapt some of it to the table when I can.

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Sounds like you are slipping easily into the rocking mode. Sometimes the right student meets the right training! Smile

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Module 5

I love doing the hip circles with the knee leading and the foot following. Receiver didn't feel like it did a lot for her but I really liked the concept. It may just not have been a technique she needed or benefited her since she is so young. I can definitely see this helping someone who has limited hip mobility issues though. Rocking the knee to her shoulder was a different story though and especially to her opposite shoulder. She did not have very much flexibility there and it was a much stronger strectch. I did the open hip rocking technique and it was more difficult for me to do. I will just need more practice being in that position. I can see where you really need practice as a therapist moving around the mat and the floor. I loved the nest two stretches with the foot in the other side of my groin and just rocking back and short in very small movements and rocking gently to the outside as you push into the shoulder. I can see where this would be very beneficial for increasing hip flexibility over time. I did try massaging the inner thigh ares with her leg over my leg as you demonstrated it. That position looked very comfortable for the receiver. My favorite was though was the spinal stretch you did with the leg crossed over. That one would be great for almost anyone.

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Is there a manual with this course. I was thinking I read that there was one but can't remember. I haven't taken notes so far but feel like I might need to go back and do so unless there is a manual.

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There is only the course manual which came with the very first course email. I am working on creating more written content for my courses, however this is a huge amount of work, so progress is slow. So far the Complete Thai Massage course and the Heavenly Head Massage course have illustrated transcripts for all modules, and I am working on this for the Thai Foot Massage course.

I will get to the Thai Rocking course sooner or later as well. For the time being you will need to take notes yourself.

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I did module 6 on my mom. She is in her late 60's and more sensitive to pain in parts of her body.  She has had pain for years in and around the tailbone area. I did the hip rocks and she really liked the movement and how it felt in her hips. I moved up and down her body and she really liked that as well. I practiced moving from the armpits down to the legs. I still just need to get in better shape myself to hold the position better.  Working in between the ribs with the finger tips added a nice variety to the move. I am glad the distinction was made for males. Very good to know! She especially liked the pull from the back with the rocking motion, it felt very good on her backs and hips. I liked that you could convert that into a stretch. Thanks for the adjustments for the men. I'll have to back and watch these over and over to remember them all.

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It sure is a good feeling if we can help a family member with chronic problems.

There are several areas in Thai Massage where you need to work differently for men and women, hips being one of them, and the chest area being another one.

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