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Module 1

 Thank you for the overview. I like the way you break down your examples and explanations. There seems to be something about your teaching style that feels very personal to me, like we’re in the same room together. You feel real to me. Not a sterile or distant experience.

 I have heard that Thai Massage practiced properly is also healing to the practitioner as well as the patient/client. I believe it is easy to see that with attention to good ergonomics as well as breath and intention, that mutual benefit must be the outcome.

 I appreciate the energy aspects of Thai Massage. To me everything is energy. Also I have a background in Reiki and Quantum Touch as well as meditation. Energy is everything! Intention is everything! Intention is energy. Sorry maybe I’m commenting too much but obviously (to me) Thai massage combined with proper intention will be magical.

 [Side note] I really like the way that you insist that forum participation occur to attain certification. It provides the classroom structure that I need to move through this course. My life is such that there will be plenty of times that I just want to go to sleep after a day at work but the classroom structure will help push me when I need the push! Thank you for the structure!

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Welcome to the certification program for the Complete Thai Massage course. 

You are right, Thai Massage is definitely healing for both therapist and client - provided it is done correctly, with intention, energy, good body mechanics, use of body weight instead of muscle power etc. During this course you will find an entire system for this which I call the "anatomy of a massage move". I think this will be right up your alley! Smile

I have a similar background as you do with meditation and Quantum Touch. You will find that I use the Quantum Touch breath for some of the Thai Massage techniques.

I agree with you, the classroom structure is helpful, and the course students who are in the certification program have a higher completion and success ratio because of it.

I can tell that you read the certification tutorial, but still I always post a link to our certification check list in the beginning of all certification threads to make sure that it is all nicely organized. So please take a few moments to read it:

Certification Check List

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Module 2

 Chi Machine…

 Hmmm you make it look easy. Actually I’m sure it will be easy once I get it down but I have to admit my beginning was a bit sloppy. Really uncomfortable position for me to hold for an extended period of time, but I’m certain I’ll get used to it so no big deal, but still I must admit I am a bit surprised at the discomfort.

 From my partners perspective she found the Chi Machine practice session to be very relaxing and she almost fell asleep. Also she experienced some cracking in her neck & lumbar area that felt very good to her.

 One challenge for me in this course is to comfortably achieve the proper ergonomics. Some will be easier than others. I think I will begin practicing yoga again. 🙂

 Happy to say that proper mindset is easy for me, since my background in meditation/life has over time created the belief that when I am good to you, I am being good to me. I like to say, “When I am loving you, I am loving me.”

 I believe that attaining a nice flow/rhythm will also be easy for me since I have always viewed my practice of massage as an art form and attempted to bring to it harmony in motion and movement. I will strive to do the same with Thai massage.

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Sure, once you know it, it IS all easy - but in the beginning it obviously is not always easy. Smile

I address the discomfort issue in several of the supplementary videos of the course.

Practicing yoga will definitely help with the ergonomics. This is an art all by itself and takes some time and practice to get a good feel for.

Otherwise you have a good background and the right mental attitude, so all the other aspects will fall into place sooner or later.

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Module 3

 Foot Massage

I watched the video several times before practicing on my partner. I began by using Chi Machine because I still need more practice with it and I’m happy to say that I’m better at it every time. Also I figure that by incorporating previous lessons with current lessons, I’m gaining more experience. How do you feel about that? Would you suggest just focusing on each lesson or do you feel incorporating previous lessons with current lessons is a good thing?

For this module everything went smoothly until I reached push-pull-rotate technique, and then I got confused on my hand & body positions but I kept going anyway since I figured the confusion would just help me remember better when I looked back at the video. Yup that’s why it’s called practice!

Once again my partner felt very relaxed after my practice and I think she almost fell asleep.

It’s been challenging finding time to study, but today and tomorrow are my days off work so these are my dedicated Thai massage study days.

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February 21, 2017 - 4:17 am
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Oooops!

 

Previous post is of course supposed to be Module 3 but I don't see a way to edit it.

How can I edit a post if I feel the need?

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There is a little pencil icon in the top right corner of your post. That lets you edit your post. However this only works if there is no follow up post yet. In other words, you cannot edit any posts except the one you are just working on.

I definitely recommend repeating all the techniques from previous modules every time you start a new practice session, even if you go through them quickly. That's the only way to remember it all. If you only practice the new material every time, the older material will quickly fade in your memory.

Putting your partner to sleep or almost to sleep is always a good sign! Smile

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Module 4

 Learning and applying these next moves was easy enough and once again very relaxing to my partner. I’m surprised that I seem to need more practice in working with the thumb rolling move. Since it’s been around 5 years since I’ve practiced massage I’m really noticing how very far out of shape I’ve gotten. Now that I’m using my hands again I’m so surprised at how tired they get just doing the simple moves. I know that will change in time as I continue to practice but it is still somewhat surprising to me and disappointing that I have gotten so far out of shape.

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Module 5

 Once again another enjoyable session. I forgot some of the moves while working on my partner but I didn’t let it bother me too much and just continued on and did the best I could. My partner still found the session relaxing and enjoyable and I know that next time I will do better.

 It’s very helpful that Shama says don’t worry about memorizing and utilizing the whole sequence all at once. I’m still critical of myself and my technique but since the teacher says, “Hey it’s OK, you’ll get it.”  It’s just helpful. 🙂

 I was reminded today while doing the IT band work, just how enjoyable that specific attention/work can be, my partner loved it and I am looking forward to sharing more needed work as I continue my lessons.

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We are often our own worst critics. The fact is that it is next to impossible to remember ALL the moves in the beginning. This will come with time and repeated watching of the videos. Later it will be like riding a bicycle - once you know it you can never forget it anymore. Smile

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Module 6

 GREAT attention to detail. I Love the way you get specific about locations of muscles etc that you are working on. Also I appreciate the reminders to not use force or muscle but instead use my own body weight.

I don’t yet have the flow of changing positions and it feels a bit like figuring out a puzzle when first practicing but I know for certain that practice will perfect it. My partners’ experience of the rocking sequences were especially relaxing. 🙂

 I’m back! Having a full-time non-massage related job and studying at the same time has proven to be harder than I thought it would be, but now I find that I am running out of time, so if I want the certification so I guess I better just push myself to get back to studying this course! Good luck to me! 🙂

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Module 7

Very enjoyable session. I love the idea of reading the hips by noticing the position of the feet. My partner is tighter when I push her feet in and is much looser when I push out. In relaxed position her feet are equally angled out. I find this interesting. She has scoliosis and I am a bit surprised that her feet are so balanced in the relaxed position but I guess it must equalize somehow at the hips or before the hips before showing much in the feet. Very interesting. Even though I have a history in massage I still have so much to learn.

Also I much appreciate when you mention alternative methods for working on very big people. I remember a time many years ago when I did a Thai Massage practice session on a very large man and not really knowing very much I found it very challenging and potentially dangerous due to the weight difference. I really should have been using an alternate method but really didn’t know any better. Thanks again Sharma!

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Module 8

Happy to say that although I definitely need to improve on my transitions I found the techniques in this module to be fairly easy to practice. My partner said the techniques were enjoyable and relaxing. At first I didn’t remember my body position in relation to the client correctly but in revisiting the video I realized where I went wrong.

As I mentioned in a previous posting, I truly appreciate your mentioning alternative methods. I remember when I had a practice session on a large man and his leg was so big and heavy it was like working with a small tree! So awkward and heavy to move! Such a challenging experience and I was a bit concerned that if I wasn’t very careful I could hurt myself. The good part is that having had such an experience helps me to understand and appreciate even more the training you give in your course.

[Today is the last day of my weekend so I have been able to get some practice in. Tomorrow will be the greater challenge as I attempt to keep this going during my work week.]
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Welcome back! We all have lots to learn - that never stops. The good thing is that you will find lots of alternative moves for various body types and sizes in this course. Most Thai Massage schools teach you one way, for better or for worse. It is much better to have some flexibility in those moves. The trick is all in using your body correctly. This is how all those tiny Thai women can work on those large foreigners here in Thailand. Lots of small tree trunks there! Smile

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Module 9

 It’s now early morning here and I’m figuring out how to get my study time in, in a consistent way. Today is the first day of my workweek and since I expect that I will be tired after work, I have chosen to get up early and study mornings before going to work. Still very sleepy as I begin my study session but I gotta do what I gotta do. Fortunately my study partner is also my wife and she’s very supportive! 🙂

 Loving these alternate stretches. It very much fills me with confidence knowing that I am developing a LARGE toolbox to take from in a variety of situations! I have had lots of instruction over the years in massage. I have taken live training courses as well as many video courses and I must say that your attention to detail as well as offering so many alternate choices sets your course well above my past experiences. I know that I keep saying it over and over, but really I am just SO happy with your course and teaching style that I find myself having to say it again and again! I already consider this course to be a shining star among courses.

 Also want to say that I love the screen in screen and or your changing sides on the video so that I can see what your doing. I’ve seen other video courses where the instructor is actually blocking the shot with their body. So frustrating I have found myself talking to the video saying, “Get out of the way!”

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Module 10

I appreciate that you repeat things often. I enjoy the repetition very much as it helps to instill the idea and understanding. As for your continuing to mention correct body posture and the importance of the therapists’ comfort, it is undeniably correct and important. Poor posture and or discomfort of the therapist will negatively impact the experience of the client and also could endanger the therapist.

I know from personal experience that when I have been distracted by discomfort, or by confusion in relation to a move or technique, I am not able to be fully present in the session in regards to giving my client the best possible experience. Love your emphasis on softness, power, and breathing. These are skills that I need to redevelop. I had a massage a few months ago and the therapist had some skill in the mechanics of the moves she used but the flow of the dance was noticeably not there. Having that soft flow and power in what we do sets us apart from everyone that has not developed their skill on that level. It’s what causes people to say things like, “best massage I ever had.”

You mention being careful with not overdoing stretches. Several years ago I was being worked on by a Thai massage therapist and I was really enjoying the stretches so I told her to make the stretches bigger and bigger. I really enjoyed it at the time but the next day my whole body hurt! I felt like I had been in a car wreck. Just because the client might say, “more, more” it doesn’t mean it’s the right thing to do. Because I had that experience I am now better prepared to do the right thing in the future. 🙂

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Thank you so much for your kind words and your enthusiastic endorsement!

You picked out some of the essential elements of Thai Massage which, as you noted, not everyone is aware of. And yes, we don't want to generate a "car wreck" feeling, even if we have a client who subscribes to the no-pain-no-gain philosophy. This can have unwanted and unforeseen results and even be dangerous.

Plus I don't believe that this kind of work is any more therapeutic or beneficial than a more gentle and sensitive approach. We can do very deep and powerful work, but it needs to be the "power of softness". This doesn't mean that it will be less deep, but it will be done with more sensitivity, no pain, and the feeling of softness which will allow the client to let it in much more so than a more forceful approach.

It's good that you had personal experience with this. Anyway, sometimes we learn more from bad massages than we learn from good ones LOL.

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Module 11

You’re very welcome Sharma. Kind words and enthusiastic endorsements are well deserved! Thank you for creating such an awesome course! 🙂

Very nice to see the moves connected. One of the things I like about a video course is that I can view it again and again. With a live course I am subject to memory and the notes that I have taken. I appreciate your emphasis on not worrying about if you forget a move. I tend to be very critical of my work, but since you stress not being worried about it, it gives me more room to relax just knowing that I am still studying and will eventually make it all flow in ways I can be happy with. 🙂

It’s early morning here and I am studying before work. I am very glad to be involved again with this course and I find that it is a wonderful way to begin my day. Beginning my morning with such a constructive study experience sets a good tone for my entire day along with filling me with strength and hope for a better future.

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The flow will come with time and practice, and the better future is already baked in if we love what we do and are inspired by it! Smile

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Module 12

I have begun having my partner do some of the moves on me as well as my practicing on her. This way I can also gain an understanding from the client perspective as to what it may feel like.

Having my partner practice on me throughout this study course is something that I will continue since feeling it as well as performing it helps me better understand and integrate the experience. One of my favorites from this session was the Achilles tendon/calf muscle stretch version 4 with the feet on the stomach and the compression and traction. Felt SO good! 🙂

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