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Module 2, Chi machine

Thank you, that was absolutely brilliant. I found it quite easy to get my guinea pig (Paul) to rock from side to side from head to toe, but initially I had my hands to close together and Paul pointed out that he could feel my knuckles banging together - although I hadnt even noticed! So that was good feedback. I also played with the speed of the rocking, which I suppose can be quite individual what people like? Paul liked it quite fast and vigorous. I use rocking and shaking in my work practice but normally Im standing and I felt that, with his heels in my hands and those resting on my thighs, there was a much closer connection to the client, if that makes sense. Pauls first question was "Is this Thai massage?" haha yes he is very English! Followed by how long I was meant to be rocking him for because he wouldnt mind if it lasted ages. Initially he had his arms over his chest but at the end he let them flop out to the sides. Overall treatment session 1 went really well, I will have to practice getting into the start position more fluidly, but that will come Im sure.

Thank you for a simple start to the course:)

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Hi Pia, welcome to our community and to the Complete Thai Massage certification program. At least I am assuming that you are posting here to get a certificate. I am not sure because we have not received a certification registration form from you.

If you are only posting for feedback and interaction, then you don't need to do anything. But if you want a certificate, then please fill out the registration form and submit it. You can find this form on the Certification Tutorial page which you can access by clicking on the 'Certification Information' banner in the sidebar of your membership portal. If you scroll down the page,  you will see the form.

Also, assuming that you want a certificate, please take a moment and familiarize yourself with our certification checklist to make sure that it is all correctly organized:

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Regarding the rocking speed of the Chi Machine, this depends on the weight and mass of a client. A small and light client will rock faster and easier than a large and heavy client. It takes a bit more effort to keep the motion going if someone is large and heavy, naturally.

To answer Pauls' question, the Chi Machine is actually not part of traditional Thai Massage, and neither are the many rocking movements which you will learn in this course. I have the created many rocking movements and integrated them into my style of Thai Massage because rocking moves have many advantages over straight and linear moves, they feel great, they are easy on the therapist's body, they are often much more effective in releasing tension than linear moves, and client's typically love them. 

Since I have created these rocking moves and taught them to thousands of therapists over the last 20 years, many western Thai Massage therapists have added rocking elements to their Thai Massage style. In Thailand, however, you won't see that. Thai Massage has developed and grown outside of Thailand in several ways.

So the rocking moves are an addition and improvement over the strictly traditional style. 

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Thank you Shama for pointing out the certification registration, hopefully you have it now?. I was also a bit confused about the forum posts, yes Ive watched all the introduction videos now I think:) and I realize I didnt write anything on module 1 as I viewed that as a intro chat, but I see now that that was not correct sorry. Ill will add that in below if thats alright. Regards Pia

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I got your registration, thanks! You can add any observations about module 1 below, however as it really is mostly an overview and introduction, it is not a big deal if you skip it.

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Module 1, introduction

In my massage work I work on a table and I use elbows, hands, fingers and knuckles etc so going on the floor and using my legs and feet will be quite a new experience for me. I am hoping to be able to offer floor thai massage separately and also to incorporate some thai moves into my sportsmassage table work.

I am definitely a fool for using power instead of my weight so this is all good reminders of things I need to work on in general. And body ergonomics yes that is me to a T aswell: When I get too carried away with fx petrissage, before I know it I have rounded my back and shoulders into a very closed off working position. Probably also in a twisted position. BAD bad bad. So Im very happy you are pointing these things out. 

Kneeling isnt something I do much so that is bound to be difficult at 1st on the ankles, but I genuinely like squatting!- getting out of the squat is a different story!  

I have some large clients and also some which are pregnant, they are usually sidelying, but it is more to reach their back than the things you will be teaching Im sure. Regarding the breath work I only really use that on the back but not as a standard which is a bit sad really, I am looking forward to the video where you teach how to use the breath when doing fingertip friction/vibrations etc.. I sometimes look for the clients breath but 9 out of 10 have so swallow breathing its hard to feel/see. Actually most of my clients would benefit more from learning to breathe instead over having a massage!

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It sounds like you have identified some good benefits already - the weight vs muscle power issue and the better ergonomics. We focus A LOT on that in this course, so no doubt you will become an expert in these areas!Smile

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Module 3

Looks so simple yet so difficult 🙂 Thank you for the very good instructions and Im also grateful for the pdfs, very handy to have for referencing.

The first move went well with the side to side leaning, but then the 2nd with the foot twist I found it tricky to not squeeze to hard whilst bending the foot out. Leaning on the feet with the circular movement is nice though, that is as far as I am with that move for now. 

Move 3 with the bending feet in and down I found it difficult to feel when it was enough / too much weight. Paul didnt like having his feet pushed in (or out) by much although it felt like they could move more? maybe a lot more of movement 1 and 2 to warm the ankles, knees and hips up? Getting the right distance to his feet to do the lean-on as well took a few trial and errors too. I see what you mean about the +90 lean on but then there is a lot of body weight on too or I lose my balance there. 

Move 4 and 5 with the straight flex and stretch of the ankle are my favorite and easy too thank you. Alternating felt very nice.

Move 6 with the leg under Pauls leg, got me tangled up in my own arms and legs! It flowed well on one side and not at all on the other ha! Ive practiced this one several times now but many more are needed. The push/pull rotation part is good, I tried doing it in both directions although that started more because I was going the wrong way at 1st, but found that was quite good as well so that wasnt so bad afterall:)

The twists I use in reflexology too, so yeah something I knew already, although never thought of doing it in the 1,2,3,2,1 order but I might add that in:)  

The last move with the grab wiggle was Pauls favorite, so he had me do that over and over again;)

Pauls feedback was he found some moves hard on his knees, he is very tight, so more warmup maybe or just be gentler with the stretches? 

Thank you:)

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Some feet resist inward bending, and some resist outward bending. Some people have stiff hips which prevent leg rotation which will cause problems with the knee when twisting the foot out. These are all things that you will pick up when you practice on a variety of people and gain experience with how people react and how their feet feel. It's definitely not a one-size-fits-all system, but a system which requires sensitivity and adaptation to what works best for particular clients. Smile

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