Thai Healing Massage Academy | Thai Massage Online Courses

Learn Thai Massage

ONLINE

Convenient - Effective

Professional Training since 2001

Avatar

Please consider registering
Guest

Search

— Forum Scope —






— Match —





— Forum Options —





Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters

Register Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_TopicIcon
Mitsko's "Ultimate Shoulder" Progress Note
Avatar
Mitsko
Decatur, GA, USA
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 18
Member Since:
September 14, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
September 14, 2013 - 3:17 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Excited to finally get started in exploring more about this Ultimate Shoulder course.  
Shoulder and Neck is just what I have always had trouble with growing up, and so far the reviews from my clients have been good.  Would love to have further tools, skill sets, confidence and support in mastering this area that's so critical to our daily living (well any parts of the body really is but...).

Mitsko

Sokssage & Bodywork | MitsukoIto.com

Avatar
Mitsko
Decatur, GA, USA
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 18
Member Since:
September 14, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
September 14, 2013 - 4:40 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Module 1

Both shoulders - work to relax the whole body

One shoulder - work more specifically on that rotator cuff

Rocking is beneficial as it sends vibration to the other parts of the body and relaxes not just the immediate areas being worked on.

Breathing out and in, as we shift our weight in and out.

Shoulder pain is often not just some sign of problems of the shoulder muscles, but the whole neck-hand line is ideally taken into consideration and worked on.

 

Great to see Shama's gentle way of handling the client.

Thoughts I had was, cupping the shoulder and doing the circular motion was going to be a bit too hard for me, as I'm about 100lb and often my clients are bigger than me.  Not sure I'll feel comfortable straddling over them.  But that sure seemed like it was going to feel great!!

I will definitely work on my kids, who are on the PCs too much - to see if I can get their shoulders to roll back in the right place.  I'll be able to straddle over themLaugh

Mitsko

Sokssage & Bodywork | MitsukoIto.com

Avatar
Shama
Thailand
Admin
Forum Posts: 6726
Member Since:
June 28, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
3
September 14, 2013 - 5:53 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Hi Mitsko, there is one thing to know about Thai Massage. There is a huge variety of techniques, but not all of them will work on everyone. There is always the matter of size and weight differences between therapist and client. The real art is to choose the right technique for the right client. Heavy people are always harder to work on, especially when you are small. On really large people you will always have to reduce the number techniques you can use because many just won't work on them. 

Thai Massage has hundreds of techniques to choose from, and this course has more techniques for the shoulders than you could ever use in one session. You can learn them all, but only use the ones that work well on a particular client. That will come with practice and experience. You will learn where your limits are. The better you get at it the more you will be able to push your limits higher since you will become more skillful how you are using your body weight to its best advantage and you will find the ideal ergonomic positions to get the most effect from the techniques.

Avatar
Mitsko
Decatur, GA, USA
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 18
Member Since:
September 14, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
September 17, 2013 - 1:05 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Report and Feedback #2

Thanks for the response Shama.  I can surely see your intention behind.  It is wonderful to be introduced to the MANY variations in your videos.  Because each person, clients and therapists do differ in their thickness, sizes, we need to find what works for us.  I do feel I'm getting a boost by taking these courses.  I'm sure eventually I will be able to find what works for me, if I am able to stay in this business long enough, while taking care of myself (pacing, receiving massages etc).  However the reality is many of us wear ourselves out before we're able to do so by performing the limited techniques and moves that we're learned at school or elsewhere - which may not be the best for us (finger overuse, not so great body mechanics etc).

I love that you offer so much varieties - you could do this, you could do that, for larger clients this works, she's small so she doesn't need this, position yourself this way to do it right etc.

 

I am seeing there's a lot of kneeding, rocking, grasping in your Thai Massages.  I like that. 

Not a lot of gliding (since it's done over clothing and no oils are used, understandably).

Does the energy flow better because there's more elasticity in the joints?  More space and unstuck physical barriers?  More fluidity because of less adhesion?

Perhaps I am still limited to see things through the western lens, but trying to grasp the concept of better energy flow.  I see that as one goal of Thai massage - correct?

I wish I was able to be on your ... carpet?  Mat?  (it's surely not Table).

Thanks so much!

 

Mitsko

Sokssage & Bodywork | MitsukoIto.com

Avatar
Shama
Thailand
Admin
Forum Posts: 6726
Member Since:
June 28, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
5
September 18, 2013 - 4:08 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

You are right. Sometimes in massage schools you are not taught enough about good ergonomics and preserving your hands. This is definitely the case in moost Thai Massage schools here in Thailand. In my courses I focus on what actually works when you are doing massage for a long time, day in and day out.

Energy definitely flows better when there is elasticity in the joints.

You are correct again. I do not own a massage table and have never needed one. However I do have a somewhat fancier setup than a carpet. Laugh. Actually what you see in all my videos is my actual work space. I use it both for video production and for doing massage work on clients.

Avatar
Mitsko
Decatur, GA, USA
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 18
Member Since:
September 14, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
6
September 21, 2013 - 11:39 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Feedback/Report for Module 3:

First I have to say I am simply jealous of the good work the model gets to receive!  It's not easy to find a practitioner that fits your "wanted" list perfectly.  I'd love to have a nice long session around my neck and shoulder.  Perhaps I need to specify that.  Huge sidetrack....

Traction / Triangle / Row Boat Technique / Rocking / Shoulder Throwing 

Lovely relaxing methods that I think are so effective for normalizing muscle tones.

I am not sure if these methods itself will remove trigger points - what do you think?
I think after gentle trigger point therapy, these are great ways to finish up to relax those muscles and for follow ups.

So many new techniques that I am eager to apply!

Thanks ...

Mitsko

Sokssage & Bodywork | MitsukoIto.com

Avatar
Shama
Thailand
Admin
Forum Posts: 6726
Member Since:
June 28, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
7
September 22, 2013 - 3:18 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

I am jealous of my model too! She gets paid for getting a massage, that's a rather unique situation. Laugh

Regarding trigger points - Thai Massage does not use this system. It is based on the concept of energy lines which get activated and then allow improved energy flow which in turn leads to improvement in the condition of the body. 

There are lots of different methods for working on the body, and they all have merit and you can get results with them. There is also nothing wrong with mixing some of those methods. You don't have to strictly separate trigger points and Thai Massage.

Avatar
Mitsko
Decatur, GA, USA
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 18
Member Since:
September 14, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
8
November 20, 2013 - 7:33 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Wow - time flies!!  

I was busy with searching for places to work and had gone through a couple of steps - I'm excited to report that I found a local chiropractor with an ideal set up, and I'll start renting next January!

This video course, I admit, in the meantime (during my search/interview/negotiations/soul-searching...) had been pushed aside....  Hadn't forgotten, and will be back to catch up!  Just wanted to give some quick update!!

To all us busy bees out there, back on to our excellent learning - what a pleasure to be able to invest our time and energy to further our skills in healing.

Sincerely

Mitsko

Sokssage & Bodywork | MitsukoIto.com

Avatar
Shama
Thailand
Admin
Forum Posts: 6726
Member Since:
June 28, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
9
November 20, 2013 - 1:05 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Whenever your schedule and your life allow you to continue with the course, you will find the course, the forum, and myself in the same place, waiting for you. We are not going anywhere. That's the good thing about the online training. You never lose it and can always pick it up again. Smile

Forum Timezone: Asia/Bangkok

Most Users Ever Online: 81

Currently Online:
9 Guest(s)

Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)

Top Posters:

mwisdom: 186

DKThai: 174

Karin Secrest: 96

Cindy Gogan: 86

Kathy McChesney: 84

jurasan: 82

Newest Members:

mmoakcom

Pirath

ieltsglobal4

Kah Soon Ng

Jenni O'Brien

Tharuka Ekanayake

Forum Stats:

Groups: 1

Forums: 7

Topics: 1070

Posts: 16186

 

Member Stats:

Guest Posters: 5

Members: 772

Moderators: 0

Admins: 1

Administrators: Shama