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Mathilde El Khoury's heavenly head massage report and progress
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Mathilde El Khoury
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I'm Mathilde, I'm a yoga teacher and I did the complete thai massage online training in 2014 and since then I wanted to do the heavenly head massage. I think it's something I could use also in my yoga classes and the end when people relax in Savasana.

 

I just finish practicing several time the technique included in the module 1. I played with different knee position in order to get more control over the pressure applied on the client's body. it was smooth and natural with a good breath synchronization. I already give this "adjustment" for my students in class, but I used to sit way more far back, the version you propose is more natural in the movement, but I think it can be embarrassing for some person to see me almost climb on their head 😛 

I'm really looking forward for the rest 🙂

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Welcome back Mathilde, I remember you from 2014! Smile

My experience with doing Heavenly Head Massage for 16 years is that, if done right, clients will very quickly close their eyes and go into a deeply relaxed state. They don't notice or care how close or how far you are from them. They just feel the sensation of your touch. You might find this to be an issue when you are working with a practice partner who pays attention to everything you are doing and doesn't close eyes and zone out. However in actual practice this is simply not an issue, you will find.

Also please take a moment and familiarize yourself with our certification check list to make sure that it is all correctly organized.

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I already made some corrections, like adding your last name to your topic title and display name so that it is easy to find you. Our forum has grown so big that we had to make sure that the organization is efficient.

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Module 2 :

 

Thank you for your last reply, I hope that the requirements for the certifications are ok now.

I practiced many times this module this last few days on different persons, I'm lucky to be able to practice on my yoga students. 

They appreciate the techniques, especially the tapping one and the gentle stimulation of the thymus.

I could coordinate my breath with the "clients" and today  even one person who had shallow breath  started to breath deeply after few minutes and I could feel her body opening up under my hands. 

I note that it's really different to practice on a man or  women, the guy I practice on was quite muscular, he really enjoyed the massage even if I was feeling less movement and loosening up under my hands. I realise that the weight of the female breast can help to make more space around the sternum.

I regret that I can't receive this massage, because I think it can really bring something  if I was feeling it myself.

And you were right people naturally close their eyes and just relax, unless I practice on my husband and he is teasing me 😛

I would like to thank you for the transcript version, it's really handy as I could reread it anytime. 

Regards,

M.

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I am glad you appreciate the transcript version. It was tons of work for me, so it is good to see that it serves a useful purpose.

I have the same issue - I can never receive Heavenly Head Massage myself since I created it and nobody except my students know it. That's also the case with the rocking techniques of my Thai Massage system. But still I am happy to give it to others and their reaction is my reward. Smile

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Module 3 :

 

Yes, you are right people's reactions are priceless 🙂 Maybe one day I'll pass by you and give you HHM 😛

I had the chance again to practice  on different persons, male and female, everybody is volunteering it's quite convenient 😛 

I really tried to focus on moving as much as I could with my body weight and having clean, smooth transitions. I liked all the work done under the collar bone, it seems to be helpful for people suffering from allergies and are shallow breathers. this whole set actually is helpful to open up the breath and I assume should be interesting for people suffering of anxiety as the upper body tends to tense.

The most difficult part for me was the last twist, I still feel that I carry the weight of the client, and not just shifting my weight, so I could feel it in my lower back which is not good.  but I can transition smoothly form one side to the other.  the practices when I could rest my elbows on my tights were the most comfortable.

I appreciate and practice on several person the practice when you move up the collar bones towards the shoulders and then moving down towards c6c7, I like how the hands just fit in, it seems really natural, and ergonomic.

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Sounds good to me - I'll be waiting for you to pass by to give me a real HHM! Laugh

Great that you have plenty of volunteers to practice on. For the twist, try re-watching the video and repositioning your body until you don't feel it in your back anymore. This is a bit of an involved technique, but done right, it does not cause any strain on the back. It is all done with body weight.

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Module 4 :

I re-practice every time the whole set from the beginning, it flows smoothly now, but still I have to practice more the previous upper body twist. I also practiced the female sternum massage version on a man and he actually liked more this version, he's muscular but not too much, but I could feel how much relief the practice brought him.

About the neck massage, it's something I already do, I tried with and without oil both were nice for the pseudo client but personally I like it better without oil.

I don't have much to say as it went very well and my hands flows easily between the different moves, I'm glad we had this lesson as many yoga students complain about neck problem due to their lifestyle, it's again something that I will use in class.

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Then this course should be perfect for you since it contains a ton of neck work, as you will see. There is neck work with and without oil covered. I am glad to hear that this comes to you easily.

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Module 5

 

Hello !

 I practice many time the wave technique from module 4 and it's smooth now. But I wonder if some person could get dizzy because of bend of the head back?

 

About module 5, it flow quite well, I could manage to move the head of the people I practiced on in a really safe way and they liked my touch.  the side neck massage was easy to do but really efficient, I really liked it.

For the practice when you pull the neck up without lifting the head, it went smoothly and the " clients" liked it, but I still need to figure it out how to use my body weight for this one, because I had to use muscle force.

Regards, 

M.

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I have never heard of anyone getting dizzy from the wave, but later in the course there is a "figure eight" technique which can make some people feel a bit dizzy. Just keep in mind that the techniques are options to choose from, not mandatory sequences.  There is nothing wrong with skipping techniques on someone.

Work as much as possible with your body as a whole. There will be some muscle involved of course, but the idea is to limit muscle effort as much as possible.

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Hello,

Yes, I repracticed it and it did not seem to put pressure on the lower neck. I think that the person I was practicing on yesterday maybe " helped" me, and raised his head so it seemed a bit extreme to me. I don't know.

Tomorrow, I start a 10 days silent meditation retreat so I will go off radar, I will resume the practice on Monday 18th.

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September 7, 2017 - 7:58 am
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People "helping" is often an issue, and many times I had to tell my clients to not do that.

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Lesson 6 :

 

 I don't  have a lot to say about this lesson, I practice all the moves and event used them on the client I had today, I could navigate easily between the moves and my different partners really enjoyed them. 

i still have to practice the one  when you rotate around the indexes, it's not as smooth as the other moves 

 

I appreciate a lot the one when we slide the heels of the hands down, I could feel the relief it brought to my partner and also the one when we slide the index on the spine in a continuous movements, it feels really natural.  

I was extra careful with the back support as after a moment the head can really start to feel heavy between the hands.

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Lesson 7 :

 

This lesson was very interesting, from the video I thought it will be quite tricky but in fact it was very smooth from the first time. I think I got   familiar with the neck 🙂 I can " listen" to this part of the body..

But it's true that the first roll can  put some weight on the lower back, so it's not something that I will do automatically.

 It took me few trial to find the right pressure on  the cheek when the head is side way. the rest was flowing nicely.

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Hello Shama 🙂

 I 2 days Ill go to India  for a 2 months studying yoga therapy, and I'm not sure that I'll have the time, a partner or internet to be able to practice, so most probably I will stop and resume the course in December. 

 

Thank you , 

M.

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No problem Mathilde. Thanks for letting me know.

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Hello Shama, 

 

I'm back from India. I resume the course today 🙂

Thank you, 

M.

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Welcome back - how was India and your studies there?

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Lesson 8 :

 

Hello Shama,

India was great I was on a therapy training it goes very well with your teachings, I'm teaching more and more people with "special needs"  and in the classes I sometimes use few of your techniques to help them with their practice. Also during the training we had to sit almost all day so most of us started having body pain and I proposed to give them massage, of course they were all in! I could practice and learning from their bodies this was great. I also had a Indian head massage class which goes very well with this course 🙂

 

 About lesson 8 : 

I got the figure 8 after few rounds I feel that I'm getting the techniques faster  with the practice. I liked the simpler version and the people I practiced on found it as pleasant as the other one. I don't really have something to tell about the rest as it was smooth and flowing easily. I try to do those practices on me and it's actually possible and really pleasant. 

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Was the Indian head massage in a sitting position? I am curious what you have to say when you get to the head massage section of this course - how it compares with or relates to the Indian head massage.

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