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Marina Pakhomin TM for Sciatica
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November 28, 2019 - 9:59 pm
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Module 1

I watched the first module, made some notes. Although I already have some info about sciatica problem, it was useful to watch the video to refresh my knowledge and to add very interesting points to it. 

Can't wait to start practice.Laugh

Thank you!

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Hi Marina, welcome back! You probably still remember, but just for reference purposes I am posting a link to our certification checklist here:

Certification Checklist

I will be interested to hear how you will relate to the material in this course. Smile

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I had lots of work past month and couldn't concentrate on this course. People were trying to use their massage insurance before end of the year. Now finally is the time to get back. 🙂

I found this module so interesting. It helped to get a broader picture of Sciatica problem and treatment.

I run sciatica tests on 6 people, but they never had a sciatica problem before, so the tests didn't show it too. At least I get more comfortable in performing the tests. 

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Welcome back, Marina. It's fine to practice the tests even if people don't have sciatica. At least you will remember it better in this way. Smile

Sooner or later you will have someone who does have the problem.

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January 27, 2020 - 7:28 am
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My friends loved this rocking move! It is so calming and relaxing, so I was asked to go all over the body using this technique 🙂

I think I'm good with using my hands, but still have to work on my legs. My balance is good. My legs get tired fast. Maybe because the 2 friends I practiced on were tiny girls and I was really conscious not to apply too much weight on them. 

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I imagine you still remember some of the rocking moves from the Complete Thai Massage course. You might even get inspired to look at the Thai Rocking Massage course. Smile

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Complete Thai Massage course was great! And yes, it helps a lot in this course. 🙂 

So the rocking is not a problem for me. What was the problem - to feel the grove on the sides of the spine on some of my friends since some people have lumbar spine like a groove itself, much lower than spinals. I could do the finger moves, but I was a bit uncomfortable to use my elbows in those cases. 

Overall, except 2 of my friends with unusual lumbar, this lesson was fun and easy and enjoyable for my friends. 

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The Spider Man move is so hard for me!!! The hands and the transition together does not work that well for me. Separately it"s ok, but together still far away from being perfect. But at least I have lots of laugh with my friends, while practicing. 

The explanations for buttocks work, including all techniques, are very good, so it was easy to follow. Some of the techniques I use on the table as well (forearms, thumbs and fingers). 

LaughLaughLaughI even got a business proposal to do only buttocks massage for office workers LaughLaughLaugh

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It is true - on some people the groove is hard to find. On those definitely don't try to work with the elbows. Before using the elbows, it is best to always check first with the fingers if it is a workable situation or not.

You could start a buttocks massage franchise business. That might become a hit with all those sitting jobs! Laugh

And on the serious side, so many therapists don't work on the buttocks, and it feels so good. Many therapists are afraid of touching it although I never understood what's there to be afraid of. Clients all love it in my experience.

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Module 6 

Out of all module 6 only last part (lower back stretch) was a bit challenging for me, because it was new. The rest is just using same moves we learnt before at Complete TM course applying on different parts of the body. 

In the lower back stretch I have to think about many little details at the same moment, so it takes time to get it right.

The buttocks part is as always a winner 🙂 as well as a rocking hips, which my friends found not only good for back, but also a mind calming.

I didn't have a chance to practice on man, but I've tried those variation on my gfs. 

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Here is how we structure our therapy courses.

Often therapy work is not about knowing totally new and tricked out techniques, but about applying the right set of techniques on the right part of the body with an in-depth understanding of the issue. That's a focus which is not presented in the Complete Thai Massage course which is more a general Thai Massage training.

For the therapy courses we add the context specific information and the anatomical elements, and then we also provide self-help exercises and lifestyle adjustments whenever possible.

Then we extract all the relevant techniques from the general pool of Thai Massage techniques and organize them into a focused therapy session with a deeper understanding of the issue. And there are generally also some new techniques, and more in-depth explanations for the applications of the techniques.

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I love how it is structured! 

I feel very confident because there is good proportion of moves that I can do already with ease (more or less Smile) and completely new moves. 

I love adding new things to what I know and practice already, and I love learning how I can use old moves in different areas and different ways. Taking special courses after a main one is like refining a diamond. 🙂

Thank you! 

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Module 7

Since I have 4 days before the deadline for this course, I am a little bit in a hurry. 

This module I practiced only once today, but on a friend who had a sciatica problem couple of years before. She doesn't know what exactly was the problem - the nerve itself or piriformis. Doctors didn't tell her.  

She is a very small person (smaller than me) and pretty flexible, as we found out :). I've started very careful, keeping in mind that she can be sensitive, but at the end I was able to go deeper and she really enjoyed. She was surprised that she can almost touch her shoulders with her knee. The rocking is a really great tool! Pigeon move was a little bit intense for her though, but we found comfortable level of stretch for her.

Her hips are a bit tight, right one tighter than the left. We worked mostly on rocking part of piriformis stretch. More advanced ones were a bit uncomfortable for her, but we did a really good job only with rocking and she felt like tension goes away. 🙂

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February 24, 2020 - 11:25 pm
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Marina, a while ago I changed the 3 month certification deadline to a 6 month deadline. So you are in no hurry. You must have gotten the old documention where this change was not reflected yet. Anyway, I have never strictly enforced this, so don't worry about it. It is mostly meant as a way to prevent students from procrastinating. Smile

The only thing that really does expire is the test for the CEUs. But this doesn't affect you since you are only signed up for the International Certificate.

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Module 8

I wasn't able do any massage past 3 month due to situation with covid. But finally, slowly I'm getting back to practice. People still a bit conscious to get massages, but I was able to find one person who let me practice  and repeat all modules from the beginning. My friend doesn't have any problems with sciatica or lower back pain at all, she is very flexible and healthy, but at least I gave her massage for the sake of practice.

Of course, it is very important to have a continuous practice, because after a break it's hard to remember all the moves. I had to re watch all modules again.

Being a yoga teacher and ayurveda student I can give some exercise and life style suggestions to people with different problems, but I've noticed that most of my clients look for miracles from therapists rather then changing their habits and helping a therapist do the job better. In spa my clients didn't even ask for any suggestions. My home studio clients ask for it, but hardly follow. 

I went through suggested yoga poses and the exercises you showed in the video by myself during quarantine and then together with my friend. We both familiar with asanas, but the part with body waves was fun. I was following up with her and she said that she does those moves everyday now. That's how much she liked it.

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Module 9 

I am very interested to take course on Ayurvedic Herbal Compression. I don't know if there is a big difference between thai and ayurvedic approach, but im pretty sure that the concept is the same. 

Thank you for sharing your experience with other techniques. I'm implementing Sound Therapy (with tunning fork) and Reiki in my home sessions. I find it very beneficial too as add up to the main session. 

Eventually Im interested to take applied kinesiology and guided visualization courses. Taking a Qigong teacher training is also interesting. I start doing qigong at home following youtube videos to complement my yoga sessions and I really love it. Would be nice to work with clients using this style. I was taking Shiatsu course before the quarantine started and I see that the philosophy of Qigong is the same as in Shiatsu and this is very exiting, because everything I've learnt in Shiatsu class I can apply in Qigong - working on specific meridians and points.

Thank you again for inspiring us to explore more means to help our clients. I think we, as a massage therapists, have to be open to other techniques as long as it serves the main goal - help client. 

Thank you for another amazing course. Sorry, it took me a bit longer to complete. 🙂

See you again at other courses. 🙂

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Hey, if your clients expect miracles, you should charge extra for miracles. Smile  I know, most are not willing to do what it takes on their own. But that's not our problem. We can only suggest and offer help, and if someone runs with it - fine. If not, that's their choice and not our responsibility. I can only say that I have had some wonderful experiences with a few clients who actually did take my advice, and that made it all worth it for me.

I have also studied all kinds of other modalities - Shiatsu, Qigong, Quantum Touch, Breema, Chi Nei Tsang, Reki, and probably some more that I can't remember now. I have always taken whatever useful elements I have found in those modalities and integrated them with my primary modality, Thai Massage. In other words, I have never been a 'purist' for one style only. As a result my Thai Massage has become better without any doubt.

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