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Liviu-Nicolae Grumeza, Thai Foot Massage
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Liviu-Nicolae Grumeza
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Module 1

The level of details and comprehension this first module gave us (me and… my girlfriend) is top. I first saw the video myself, than practiced on my girlfriend. I memorized and learned very good. I apreciate all the experience you share with your students. Very good aproach on protecting our hands from fatique, overuse and other harm. Can’t wait to see the next course. I will practice what I learned here again tomorow, just for the sake of it. 

I am now thinking about investing in another of your courses so i don’t have a day without a video 🙂

Anyway, I am constantly writing because I understood from the course manual that I should give constant feedback so that you know I am involved in the course.

Maybe at the end of the course I will make time to shoot 30 minutes full foot massaje video to prove you that I am a good aprentice 🙂 

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Hi Liviu, welcome to the Thai Foot Massage course and our forum. I am excited to have you with us since you are obviously a skilled and dedicated therapist, and you are from an area of the world which doesn’t know much about real Thai Massage massage, so you can play an important role there. 

You will see that throughout all my courses I stress not to overuse or abuse our hands. Thai Massage lends itself to this perfectly since you can work with many body parts. It is a very therapist friendly system.

Also please take a moment to familiarize yourself with our certification check list:
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From our communication so far it seems to me that you would be an excellent candidate for learning the entire Thai Massage system, and I would be pleased and honored to help you learn it and present it in Romania. Smile

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Your messages are a maximum delight for me. I just came to my computer after I went to the bank to make a deposit for Complete Thai Massage. I want to have them as soon as possible ?

Your courses make my day and I wish to study and practice them on a daily basis. Hope that in autumn I will have my first proffesional thai foot massage service in Iași city.

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That would be great, and I am sure you can accomplish this.

I love your enthusiasm and it makes me happy if I can help and support all my course students. 

When you invest in the Complete Thai Massage course, you will have regular, almost daily training material for the next 6 months! Smile

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I practiced the second module yesterday. It does not look like thai foot massage tutorials on youtube. Maybe on the latter part of your course altough I understand I will not use tools which is ok for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsrn_d44z-U

The first parts of course is a “warmuppy” parts I guess with less specific areas focus. 

The elbow roll on foot technique did not seem very practical and the partner was indiferent at the feel of it but I will practice more and maybe I will “get it”. 

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The first part of my Thai Foot Massage course is an enhancement of the foot massage techniques which you would use as part of an actual Thai Massage session. In other words, it requires a knowledge of Thai Massage.  It is not something which is very practical as a stand-alone set of techniques for someone who does not know anything about Thai Massage. It is the ideal progression of the foot massage techniques which I teach in the Complete Thai Massage course. It fits in perfectly and blends with a Thai Massage session which incorporates some foot massage.

When you say that it doesn’t look like the Thai foot massage which you see on Youtube, this is because generally theThai  foot massage shown on Youtube is the stand-alone Thai reflexology system.

You have to remember that these are two totally different systems. One is part of Thai Massage, the other is a separate foot massage-only system. This is what I teach in the second part of the course. That’s why I explain in the course description that it includes two courses in one.

In regards to the videos which you posted, the first one clearly contains many elements of Thai Reflexology. However it also contains many elements which I find plain irritating. There is a lot of stop-and-go, strange hand positions which don’t seem to have any real function in the foot massage, a lot of disconnecting, and the flicking off with the hands which adds to the disconnects and does nothing for the flow of the massage – in fact it disrupts it. These techniques looks artistic and ‘cool’, but they are lacking the continuity and the flow which makes a good foot massage session feel great. To me this video looks a little weird, and certainly no therapist in Thailand works like that.

As far as the second video goes, it is clearly a type of foot massage which is done in Thailand. However I personally never enjoyed the use of these wooden sticks. In fact I do not allow any foot massage therapist to use them on me since it doesn’t feel good and is often unpleasant or even painful. The hands simply feel a lot better.

The one thing which I noticed in the video is that the therapist does not have good hand techniques for the soles of the feet and he replaces that with the frequent use of the stick. You will learn a much more pleasant way to do this in this course. Also the flicking off the toes is a distinctly unpleasant technique which is always done in Thailand. However I never saw the point of using it or the benefit of it. It feels painful to me and I don’t enjoy it and I don’t teach it. Tradition is not always the best way of doing things. Sometimes innovation or modification is necessary to improve something.

You will see that I teach a very effective and therapist friendly style of Thai Foot massage (the reflexology style) which does not require any tools.  This comes from someone who has regularly received foot massage in Thailand for many years – all without any tools.

In regards to the elbow roll on the sole of the foot, you will get a much better feel for this once you go through some videos of the Complete Thai Massage course. This technique requires some finesse which takes some time to develop.

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I read very carefull what you wrote. I preffer to learn a method that makes me “tool independent”. I find any tool useles in massage. The hand offer everything we need for a good massage and also control and information on the effects. I understand your arguments about the flow and lack of disruption and about sometimes improving and innovating. Thank you!

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I have seen and practiced all the videos. I practiced some thai foot reflexology (about ten session) with my clients and my girlfriend but I have the feeling that I would have to get to about 40 sessions to get this out on the market as thai massage – this is the reason why at maximum two days i practice again a previous course than I do a general foot thai reflexology session with elements from general thai foot massage. I know all the moves but they don’t still get in a flow that I am natural with and proud of.

I just finished with some exams in philosophy and will now have the time to work carefully for receving my earned diploma in thai foot massage.

I will post here my feedbacks about every session.

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June 12, 2016 - 1:29 am
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Looking forward to your posts! 

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Hello again,

5 months passed since my last post. As i already said in previous posts i now hired a person i can practice on because i did not find other way to evolve proffesionaly in this: we have a clear three times a week schedule.

Anyway, although i did not post here, all the modules in thay foot massage i practiced a lot on my clients, combined with some deep-tissue and myoscheletal alingment techniques. Bassicaly, this course i practiced almost every day on clients.

Because i want the certification i will post here my feedback on every module. I will also practice again every module on the person i hired because i like to see the videos again.

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MODULE 1

It got very clear to me when practicing that for reasons regarding the session time, i would clearly have to separate thay foot reflexology from a foot massage. I did not practiced thinking at energy lines, i practiced more like in geometrical approach. But, if there are those energy lines like that i surrely respected their location as presented in the video. I alternated all kinds of situations: on the floor, on the table, with or without oil.

These energy lines teachings make me a little confuse. For example: i think in chinese energy lines are different from thay energy lines. It seems to me that many of these teachings contradict each other, maps on reflexology point also seem contradictory to me. Anyway, it does not matter much for me now, i am not into this now, maybe in the future i will get deeper into this. For me now and for the purpose of my services, it is not productive to invest a couple of months in this.

Wrapping the thumb around the foot and not applying pressure otherwise is a good tip i forgot to apply and now remembered. I use this technique on the massage table also.

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I agree with you – don’t invest time to investigate the specific differences in the energy lines between Thai, Chinese or other styles. Just do the techniques as shown in the videos, and you will get good results. Sometimes all the theory just complicates and confuses things. Even here in Thailand there is no agreement where exactly the sen lines run and how many there are. It’s not worth it to try to get scientific about this, just do the work.

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November 1, 2016 - 7:33 pm
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MODULE 2

These moves have become now almost indispensable in my massage sessions in the last five months. I already did it a couple of times integrated in a hole specific thay foot massage session on a friend. I remember when i started with those, especially that elbow on foot technique was so strange, unfamiliar and seemed so useless. Now… practice makes it easy and natural. It is interesting that after 5 months of practicing these on clients it comes hard for me to comment something because everything is so easy to do.

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That has happened to me many times when I was teaching live classes. I was thinking “Why is anyone paying me for this? This is so easy that I could do it in my sleep.”

Of course it was not that easy at all for the students. But when you get good at it, it feels so easy and effortless. So you have arrived at a good point! Smile

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November 3, 2016 - 6:29 pm
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MODULE 3

Great move, already incorporated in my table massage sessions. Circularity and body weight playing makes it “heavenly”. The rest of the moves are easy and natural.

One note from my experience is the absolute neccesety of prone position foot massage for best feet feeling afterwards. Many techniques imposible to aply and work good unless in prone position.

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Very true, for a good foot massage within a Thai Massage session, you need to use both supine and prone positions.

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November 4, 2016 - 7:26 am
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MODULE 4

I practiced the elbow on foot maneuver but for me i am not enthuziastic about it. I do not see for me a situation, from my knowledge now of thay massage when i would bother to put someone on one side to work the legs. Maybe in the future i will feel the need for something like this, i do not know, but seemed bothersome for my manequin. 

Anyway, the client felt ok when working with the elbow on the feet in prone position, i will practice more, i will give it a change, i see some potential in working the bottom of foot in prone position, i just had other ways to approach bottom of foot. 

This video i completely forgot since 5 months ago. Interesting move the one with knee on bottom of foot but my client felt just ok. I do not like to many just ok’s in a an hour session of massage… 🙂 But, then again, i don’t have to use them all, just best suitable for a specific person and experience will guide me. Some people may be crazy for some of this.

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The techniques in the first section of this course are not meant to be used as a sequence. The idea is to build them into a Thai Massage session if the client is already in a particular position, like side or prone. And some of the techniques are primarily meant for clients with large feet who need deeper work than you can do with your hands. If you do such a technique on a small person, they might not feel so good.

Also forearm, elbow, knee or foot techniques on the foot require a good amount of sensitivity in order to feel good, and the positioning has to be just right. Another piece of advice is to try to make the techniques more slow and sweet. Sink in slowly and gently and try to do it with as much feeling as possible while thinking “softness” in your mind. Give it some more time and practice.

I know this might sound a little weird, but it sure works well for me.

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I know this might seem a little weird but i will practice this particular video on different persons until it works for me too 🙂 I trust your experience.

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MODULE 5

I was uncouncious about not forcing the foot to pronate when hip restriction exists because this way i would force the knee joint. I never saw it this way but it makes perfect sense and i will be very careful about it in the future. I quess the same advice could be aplied also about not forcing the foot to supinate because of the restriction in glutes, piriformis, gemelli, quadratus femoris or wherever it might be.

Everything else in this video i practiced a lot these months.

I am more and more into rocking. That end wigling technique feels good.

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