I am sorry to hear that. This covid drama changed the world. Hope that this drama will finish soon and that Thailand will come back to its normal state. Here in Croatia is not like in Austria and Germany, but what makes me crazy is that nobody thinks about natural prevention and a healthy lifestyle; most of them (60 %) will take the vaccine and carry on with a bad lifestyle. We hope and chant for a better world.
In this module, I practiced on 1 female client. Sometimes I teach her yoga privately, sometimes I do reiki on her, and today she wanted a little bit of gentle (but her gentle is more different than my, you will see why) stretching and thai. She told me that she had a few days ago shiatsu work and after feeling a lot of pain in her calves, even she had problems with going down the stairs. I did the whole body, of course, I did very gentle work on her calves, I just send reiki through palms.
She really enjoyed this side work, from elephant walking to flexor stretches. What is interesting, I asked her about condition and state, and she told me only about calves and didn't want to tell me about arms muscle pain because her belief and habit is that bodywork must be painful to reach benefits (she works also with different coaches, and on that workouts, she is custom to tolerate suffering and pain), so she didn't want that I take a gentle approach on arms. But I listen to you and I am trying to use my palm like guides... I did it gently, with feeling, and after the massage, she said that she never felt so stretched and light in the body like now (and admitted arms muscle state). And even though she has some expensive neck and spine massager at home, that now her posture is really straight, especially the thoracic part, and what is more important, her inner feeling is .....
I know, it is totally bizarre that suddenly all the 'health authorities' in the world pretend that natural immunity, a strong immune system, and an active, healthy lifestyle don't matter at all - only one thing is allowed, the v@xx.
So you got direct proof that 'no-pain, no-gain' is not the answer. Good, I never believed that.
No pain - no gain principle has a lot of yoga people They mix this with sports and recreation, sweat, etc... But I like simplicity, relaxation, and healing ... and always teach them that we don't need complicated things.
This module I practiced on my wife, and she was a great partner for that because she has a little bit of instability in the shoulder area, so I had to really listen and feel each movement twice.
The circling moves and variations with built-in stretch and rocking were the most pleasant and release for her. The next moves of arm circles were good, but not enjoyable for her as the first moves, and of course, I practiced listening to the edge in joint and motion. I also received these moves from her, because my shoulders are a little bit closed, so this sequence was great for me
When I was young, I seriously injured my knee by forcing myself to stay in the full lotus yoga position for too long. I guess it was an ego thing on my part - look at me how long I can do the full lotus! Now I am older and wiser and know how to prevent injury in myself and others.
Later I got a serious injury from someone taking me too far in an assisted yoga position. I learnt my lessons.
I also worked on a bunch of injured yogis...
Definitely no 'No-pain-no-gain' for me.
Thank you for sharing your experience. If it is ok, would you mind telling me from which type of yoga you have the most injured yogis?
I found that in the last 10 years injuries in yoga had increased by 80 %, and this is really sad (because that I wrote this book), and mostly because of social media and aesthetic approach. We finished with the translation of the book so I can send you epub and pdf format, just tell me on which e-mail
In this module, I practice also with my wife. I found it interesting your round motion with the arm to bring it over had - I teach the same way of arm motion to my students on how to enter in the diagonal triangle. I found it to be a more natural move for the shoulder. Practicing this swing arms back motion, I was communicating the whole time in order to find the limit for her shoulder.
All these motions with scapula were more comfortable on the side without scoliosis, nevertheless releasing.
In shoulder and arm traction through practice, we found that her shoulder was much better without circling (at one moment of the circle when the arm is coming back in she feels discomfort) - just gentle traction. Kneading the lats was tickling for her
The last moves in the video were great. Sandwich rocking motion I do sometimes on ankles and people enjoy it.
I never kept track of which system of yoga these clients practiced - sorry. Maybe because I myself never really followed one specific style of yoga. I just did what felt right for me.
The same goes for Thai Massage - I developed my own style that felt right for me and my clients. I also know quite a few people who were injured by Thai Massage therapists. Several had bones (mostly ribs) broken. I myself had a rib broken by an overzealous practitioner who jammed his knee in my abdomen and got too close to the ribs.
So I made sure that my students would never injure anyone by teaching in a way that favors awareness, sensitivity, gentleness, and breathing. I am pretty sure I succeeded with this.
I'd love to get your book pdf. You can send it to firstname.lastname@example.org.
OMG, I can't believe ribs cracking. You definitely achieve that in your education. And that is great, in this module when I sow this last twisting motion and looks so gentle and safe, and when you see that and know there is this kind of approach which is safe for everyone - I myself felt more motivated. Because I sow more complicated twists, 10 years ago when I was working in one hotel, I met a girl from Thailand, she worked there as thai therapist, and she was great. I thought some yoga exercises, she did some thai moves on me and showed me how to do it on others. One of the techniques was a little bit complicated twisting, but I never felt ok to do it on others. So this your simplicity for me means treasure For me, science and medicine, anatomy and some other knowledge in this society requires a lot of time to master, but in the end, nothing is mastered; cause they don't have a cure for anything. Because of that, this course is a great treasure, we can in a safe way apply it right now, and in a simple way help people now.
Some of these techniques I learnt before, like beck bend and shoulder stretch, and it helped a lot of students ( I wrote before how 1 girl without energy in her erector muscles couldn't sit in yoga, so after this stretching she awake energy and improve her body posture immensely).
All other moves I tried on a couple of people, of course, all sequence on my wife One of them didn't like the trap squeezing that much (one of a million) but felt amazing all other moves.
I did it also with one of my students with neck problems, and she said it was great and relaxing. She said she felt goosebumps.
I have just 1 question. Is it ok to for example after finishing positions from supine to go to the sitting pose and work a little bit on the neck and warm it, and make it easier laying in the prone position?
Thank you 🙂
Of course you could theoretically do that. However I have to say that there are many more effective neck techniques that can be done in the supine position. They are technically not part of Thai Massage, i.e. they are typically not taught in the traditional Thai Massage system, and that's why I included them in my Heavenly Head Massage course which goes way beyond traditional Thai neck techniques. This course has a neck section that makes it possible to do an entire session of only neck work.
So you could do neck techniques in the sitting position after supine and before prone, but as you know, not everyone is comfortable in the sitting position (unless they are the yogi types). Therefore it is very useful to have a good neck repertoire that can be done in the supine position in which everyone is comfortable.
The other thing is that if you use my simulated neck cradle pillow setup, clients do not have to turn their necks sideways in the prone position which eliminates the entire issue.
Thank you for advice. I tried this module on few clients, and my wife. The first move -traction back and arms was great and is great, I also recieved it. No problem with intimacy. Sometimes when I work to close, I put a pillow between me and client. Back strech is great and people with cifotic posture felt great after ( i done it many times before, and for me is not heavy because yoga and lot of low chairs postures and squats). Forearm work on trapezius, i had situation when my leg is to big, so i had to adjust my step But it felt easier for 2 nd variation of this work. Shoulder stretch did mostly on my wife, gentle and releasing.
we are doing the last checking on the book and sending it tomorrow.
I had clients of all types, like you said, visual, auditory, and kinesthetic. Through yoga lectures, I build a habit to speak people benefits of each exercise, so through time, they build some amount of knowledge and they can use it on their own (they are very thankful for that, and they see this like a unique school here and they feel that we are always on their disposal).
In massage, I am trying to feel them, so if they need silence, I speak only when I feel to tell them anything about moves. Yesterday I had a female client, she had a lot of family stress, so she needed to say everything that was laying heavy on her soul and heart. Usually, I teach them to go inward and feel their body (because if they do that, they will reach the silence and awake inner power), but I remembered you said in 1 video that it is ok to let the client talk, so I let her... So I felt that she really needed to speak... After 40 min of massage, she said to me with a smile: "Leo, I really confessed everything." I said her: "Don't worry, that is nice, and this won't distract my massage, I will do it anyway, whether you talk or not." Note - usually she is not a talkative person.
1 more example - last week I had a massage with 1 male client - he wanted to talk, he came with this intention. But, he works in a hospital, and took lot of stress that day, even he was late 15 min to the session. He lay down, and we work 70 min in pure silence, just with mantras in the background. After, he told me that he needed just that - a big reset.
I have 1 nice testimonial from one female student who lived all over the world and tried a lot of massages and yoga.
We are happy that a relatively small town like Šibenik has so many gems, and Divine Yoga Studio is certainly one of them. Sanja and Leo are full of knowledge, positives and desires to share their experiences with us and help make the world a better place.
Every yoga class is different, instructive and fun. It suits me personally that different styles of yoga can be combined. Sometimes I feel like my body needs longer stretches like on Yin yoga, and sometimes the stress of a hard day at work breaks the Vinyasa flow. I was lucky to move and live with my family many times in different countries and I went to yoga classes everywhere. In no yoga center did I have the flexibility to come as in Divine Yoga Studio. I go to massages regularly, especially during my life in Asia, but Thai massage at Leo’s is a special experience and definitely to be recommended. Leo has a lot of knowledge and experience and he solved my shoulder problem in a very short time. Thank you Sanja and Leo for helping me to be healthier and happier in an interesting and fun way. - Shanti