July 28, 2017
Positioning with the body and head. I have found that most times, people are more comfortable with a head pillow which came as part of my Thai Yoga Massage kit. The only challenge I have is transitioning into and out of positions where we need the pillow to be taken away. Otherwise works great.
I love the first hand positioning at 45 degree, it makes so much more sense and feels very natural. I really enjoy the rocking sensation, it just allows me to work in rhythm with breath.
It is interesting actually, as I was originally coming in to a seated position which didn’t really allow me the wave like motion as I was not able to put my body weight into the shoulders. So transitioning from bottom to knees has made a huge difference. Thank you so much for this video.
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It sounds like you had a good start and got some nuggets out of the first module. Quite interesting how a small change can make a big difference in our ergonomics!
July 28, 2017
This is fantastic, when I did my training in Kundalini / Kriya Yoga, some of these tapping techniques are taught. I must admit, I do feel very uncomfortable with some of these techniques on women only, getting close to the breast and would never ask anyone to remove their bra during my practice. I feel very positive doing these on men, but and very cautious with women. I have been practicing this with my partner whom is a women and she tells me that If she were to be touched in a few of the techniques she would feel very uncomfortable. So I am working with what I have and doing my best to make sure all feel comfortable. I do understand that if I feel uncomfortable, then this will be felt with client. So it is important I work through these sternum and chest exercises to get a feeling of comfort myself. I love the energetic connect of the Thai Yoga Massage, it is amazing.
This is interesting. I have been doing Heavenly Head Massage for over 15 years, and most of my clients were always female. In most, but not all cases, I asked them to take their bras off and explained to them that the straps get in the way of working on their chest and traps. I also explained that sports-type bras do not get in the way, but those wire-mesh bras not only get in the way but also prevent good circulation and energy flow. I never had a problem with their responses, and I never felt that they were apprehensive about my work.
I know that there are cultural differences. For example Thai woman are for practical purposes “married to their bras.” I would not ask them to take them off because they most likely would freak out over this request. However I have not felt this problem with American women. Maybe it was because I was working in parts of the US where there is more holistic awareness.
However I have to admit that I find it curious why a female client would feel so defensive over a female therapist touching her chest. I don’t know all the factors involved, like where you live and practice, or how much of this is in your client’s mind or in your mind.
But here is a tip how to go about this. When I did a HHM session on a new client, I always spent a few minutes before the session explaining what I was about to be doing. In this way clients know what to expect and will not be surprised when you work on their chest.
You can explain that chest work has a positive impact on their immune system via the thymus gland, or on their lungs, or on their heart chakra, or that it helps release tension in the upper body… Just explain something that you feel the new client can relate to. In this way they are prepared and understand not only THAT you will work on their chest, but they understand WHY as well.
In this way nobody will feel surprised, because now they expect it and they understand the benefits in advance.
Another thing I sometimes did is this. When someone booked an appointment, I spent a couple of minutes on the phone to explain this to them. I said that for the chest work it is best to work without a bra unless they wear a sports bra with no protruding plastic or metal buckles. I told them that this is for their own comfort, to get the most out of the session, and for me to be able to work effectively. In this way they know before they ever show up for their appointment what to expect. Again, no surprise on their part when you start to work on them.
It generally helps to instill some confidence in your clients before you ever touch them. Some simple logical explanations will generally do that.
July 28, 2017
July 28, 2017
I love the thumbing technique of the chest. I have had really good feedback about this and how it feels. I only wish I could have this done myself… The technique of moving the body in and out to do the shoulder lift is very impressive. This is taking me a little time to get used to. Although in saying that, my clients love it. I actually really feel okay in doing thing, but am still a little clunky. Putting all of these techniques together is fun. I have now changed my stance from the very beginning in order to move a little more fluently. I am loving this course. Thank you
July 28, 2017
OMG This is my favorite so far. I love the transition from knees to bottom and bring feet up under the kneck. I actaully feel really good in the body doing this move. When I shut my eyes and bring the feet and hands in to motion together it feels as though it is a beautiful wave like motion. I have had on a couple of occasions some people lift there head and try and guide the head themselves. But if I given guidance to relax and concentration to breath I normally gain the control I need in order to work through this motion…
I quite often use the hands behind neck to move hair a lot in order to do just that.
The massage into neck and the finger positions has a huge impact on releasing muscle tention in the practitioners wrists, so I also really love this.
The breath is so important, I so aware of making sure that this is not a challenge when massaging turning my head and bring my gaze up. Again fav so far.
What I am wondering is how I could offer a heavenly head massage to a pregnant woman as she cannot obviously lie back on the ground, I guess I could have her on her side and work through the neck one side at a time? Hmmmm thoughts
I remember doing a Heavenly Head Massage on a 9 months pregnant woman. She really wanted it, so I had to improvise. I managed to prop her torso up to about a 45 degree angle with all kinds of props and pillows. It probably was neither ideal for her nor for me, but it worked out pretty well. Side position is also a workaround.
The fact is that in such a case you just have to improvise and do what can be done. It won’t be a perfect text-book HHM session, but you can still make it feel really nice, even though you obviously cannot do all the techniques. That’s one of those times when we have to throw the rule book out of the window and engage our creative talents!
July 28, 2017
Wonderful. The Full hand up neck to remove hair, is a technique I have learnt previoulsy which I love. It not only feels lovely for the client, but for me as the therpist. The oil I tend to use most is organic coconut oil, do u think this is okay to use. It tends to feel lovely and clients enjoy?
The neck side to side move and positioning of the hands was so helpfull, but I do tend to find the client wanting to move their own head from side to side lol…. generally if i guide breath and relaxation I will gain back control, but in observavtion interesting to see.
THE lifting of the neck is so beautiful and very subtle… many clients are enjoying the feeling of this technique. Thank you for all of your guidance. It is interesting to see the different range in movement in this techniques from person to person. Some people I hardle get any movement. Do you think this is mainly due to tightnes and maybe not being completely relaxed? It simple is range of movement?
You will definitely find lots of differences – some people can relax very easily, and some can hardly relax at all. Of course they are the ones that need this work the most.
The same goes for range of motion. It can be quite fascinating when working on many necks to see all the different ways how necks function. Just by looking at necks they look so similar, but when you touch them, they are often very different.
Here in Thailand coconut oil is used a lot. Personally I prefer Jojoba oil for the neck because it has no smell and gets absorbed very quickly without leaving a residue or leaving a stain on shirts. But both will work just fine.
July 28, 2017
Okay so I have been practicing the small neck roll which i really love and my clients seem to really enjoy. but the one thing I can’t seem to get is index finger, slide up head and change… It feels really weird and I think I lose control of the head, I know I am supporting the head with the opposite hand, but I just seem to lose it with this one. The great thing is, is that I have a partner at home I can practice, practice, practice this on and not do before I feel confident with clients. There is nothing worse than faking it, the energy becomes misconstrued and the client does not enjoy. I am looking forward to working on this more. I have been trying and trying, hense my delay in posting…
I absolutely love the head tilts, so do my clients…. normally by this time, I have full control cause the client is out to it lol…. feels great I have been told.
head into index and finger and tips is something I have been doing for a while, so It was nice to continue this practice. I find that people love the feeling of the head floating whilst supporting the with fingertips into the occipitial ridge. I must admit, I have had this done before and love it, so I breathe that energy of how it felt as I share it.
I imagine that if you feel that you are losing control of the head, you are sliding up too far. Or you do not use both hands enough to support the head. In other words you release the upper hand too quickly.
Anyway, don’t get too much into trying to do this one technique perfectly. All the other techniques seem to work fine for you. Sometimes it is better to move on and come back to this one technique later. This will prevent frustration or getting too much into your head about doing it right. There are plenty of techniques to use, and this is not a mandatory fixed sequence.
July 28, 2017
Wow I spent a good month just on trying to get this exercise the hand to should roll technique. To begin with I felt it was a lot of pressure on my own back, so had to really adjust the way in which i worked. This is such a great massage for the client and am now getting some wonderful feedback.
One of my favourite to date so far is the massage with the support of the knee to forehead. At this stage the client is going into that heavenly bliss state and the feeling of support from the knee is just beautiful.
Thank you so much for the all the support. You are right we do need the space between videos to really trial these techniques and get used to them. I believe I am behind at completing this course. Can you tell me if I am to late to keep on submitting my posts as I have now finished this course. I work in a way that I really like to understand and feel the technique before posting. Otherwise all my posts I would be saying the same thing, Hard “don’t get it” lol when in actual fact I just needed time to work with it.
Namaste Leisa Timms
July 28, 2017
I recently had a client that had a past injury being whip lash and has a fear of letting anyone touch her neck cause of the pain. I found that the support of this exercise was amazing. Holding both hands under the head and adding a iittle resistance to push and pull my client said was amazing. Due to feeling supported she was able to let go and really relax, which gave me the freedom to work with her. The results were amazing. This women had such wonderful things to say.
The figure 8 (I don’t conduct on anyone with previous injuires) I am finding I am able to do if someone is not assisting, if they are assisting as per your guidance I try and let them let go by wobbling the head to get them to release, but some don’t so it makes it very difficult to move into a figure 8. So I generally don’t move fluidily instead I will move step by step which people are still loving.
I do love the figure 8 when I have someone that it works with. I can generally feel by the ererngy within if it is right or wrong for the client
Again amazing techniques.
July 28, 2017
OMG this is the best, given that I am also studying acupressure, the ears are such a sensitive and relaxing point for most people with wonderful benefits. There are many things here to explore. I really love the index and pointer finger rub one finger on back of ear and other just down the front.. People seem to love this one and the ear lobes. The one that I did find a little uncomfortable with was thumb press, I believe this is cause my nails were a little long. I now ensure that my nails are nice and short to ensure there is no discomfort to the client.
I get a little lost in practice as this point myself in a great way. I am normally really in tune with the client so that massage is just as soothing for me giving as it would be receiving.
I must admit, I don’t really stay to the counter, I just work with the energy.
THank you so much
July 28, 2017
Do you know what I get a lot with the hair massage? People just want an hour of this lol…. I am quite often told that it is amazing that they do not have to go to a hairdresser to get this, WOW!!!
This was very interesting to explore actually as I often practice not only on my partner, daughter and client but also myself. I myself have dreadlocks, so it is interesting to explore these techniques. I recently did my Thai Yoga Massage training level 11 and there were quite a lot of these techniques introduced and the amount of people that worked on me felt very uncomfortable. It was quite painful for myself also, so we learnt that actual finger tip massage into the hair is a no on dreads, but the pressure with fingers not moving was amazing.
Of course I had to be the odd one out, but was great for a different perspective.
I love the hair massage though, people are generally asleep at this stage or in a deep state of mediation. Yum Yum lol
July 28, 2017
This kind of massage almost reminds me of tapping, stimulating the nerves. I find that people that like a really relaxed massage don’t really like this technique, they like slow and relaxed. But those that want a little more invigoration, love it.
The playful technique is interesting. Happy fingers, I really like this.
What I love about the hair massage is that I can take any technique and combine so long as they are balanced. Great way to explore
Personally I don’t like the friction movement, but I don’t work with my own judgement, I work with intuition so do still give this massage. like most before I start my practice i release any self thoughts to ensure that I do not imprint onto others my likes and dislikes. We are all different and If i only work with only what I like i am doing a disservice to the practice and the client.
Again, I have been really throwing myself into these practices with my clients exploring and understanding before coming back to give this feedback.
July 28, 2017
What an amazing experience to have this done myself. I do understand what you mean about the pressure though, the less pressure into the third eye the better. But as you move up it feels great to add that pressure. I am so glad I have had people to not only work on, but for them to do to me also, it makes a huge difference in this course online. I have had a wonderful chance to explore these techniques before submitting my review and questions.
This sweeping of the nose to eye brow technique is something that I was taught in my level 1 training. I love thi one and so do other people.
I totally agree with the dry skin, I love your folding teqchique this was awesome. I do use a little bit of oil, is this okay? I know it is suggested on the neck. I like a little on the face into the temples to begin with.
Wow, that was a posting marathon, Lisa!
No, you are not too late. I am not a stickler about rules. All I want to see is that course students are actually working with the material in order to receive a certificate. In your case it is quite obvious that you are applying the course material. Plus your posts are full of enthusiasm and inspiration. So you are doing great.
Regarding your question if it is okay to use a little oil on the face. Actually there is an entire module coming up which is all about working on the face with oil.
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