So, I finished watching module 1 of the complete thai course.
I liked the layout. Learning to different types of moves and ways of administering the moves before hand is helping.
I never realized how many tools of our body we can use!
It does seem to hurt my knees, not bending them and sitting, but if I'm on my knees crawling around even on the mat after a little while? It hurts my patella putting the weight on it I guess.
And yes, my toes a little bit sitting up on the toes more, I'm guessing I'll get used to that.
I can feel a big difference and can tell when I lean in with my body and not my muscles...but I'm not doing it right all the time and I have to keep reminding myself how to do it. But when I do it, it works so much better and effortlessly.
And about the breathe, I notice we are suppose to sink our movements with our own breathe, are we suppose to guide the clients breathe too. Or listen to their breathe so we move in on their exhale etc?
Hi Lauren, welcome to the Complete Thai Massage course.
Please take a moment and familiarize yourself with our certification check list:
I fixed the topic title for you already (item 2 on the check list) since this is not just for module one, but all your posts go under this same topic. That's explained in item 7 on the check list.
I am sure you will get used to the positions - everyone has so far. What kind of mat are you using, by the way?
Regarding the breath, you never guide the client's breath, just your own. This will be explained in the respective sections throughout the course how to do that.
My mat is soft and comfortable and I got it from someone who made it, I believe, from Ebay. I really like my mat but my knees do hurt just leaning on them.
Now with this module my question about the different names for Thai was answered in this module. That Thai Yoga massage and Thai massage are not different things. Ah ha!
The ergonomics of being on the floor mat is so much easier for me to get a nice pressure and not straining my body. I have taken Shiatsu classes before and I took them before I started doing any massage work on a table and I still find it hard to translate proper body mechanics to the table.
But, I like what you said about 'we need to feel good. We need to feel relaxed' as the practitioner because I notice that I'm not always relaxed and my muscles tense up instead of using my body weight.
Practicing the Qi machine is weird and fun. It feels a little akwward and you have to get a congruency of the shaking/swaying movement. But i like it!
You can never get ideal ergonomics on a massage table because you can't get on top of people. You are always coming from the side because the table of course blocks your body. It really is much easier to use your body to its best advantage if you are working on a floor mat.
If your mat is not so soft that your knees sink through and hit the hard floor, and if you don't have a real knee issue, you should get used to the kneeling position. I have heard that from many students, and so far all of them got used to it after a while. In the meantime you can try using a little pillow and put it under your knee to reduce the strain you are feeling. That's only a temporary measure until your body gets used the Thai Massage positions.
FEET!! I did an introductory Thai class last year and learned most of these techniques and I ALWAYS use the rocking and 6 points on the feet to close my massages and people LOVE IT!
The only thing I have found is some people with bad knees cannot have their feet spread and rocked so much, it hurts them bc it's sort of twisting their knee so when I do a mini rock and push it's better.
I love the rocking movement for myself as well, I get to attuned and it feels effortless. Yesterday I did the rocking and moving points on a client and kept flowing and had my eyes closed, it was such a pleasure for me when I looked at the clock 10 minutes had gone by!!! what. and the client was in heaven so it was all good.
I get a lot of clients with bad knees or ankles too so I'm very timid about doing the ankle stretch forward move...
I cannot get the shaking the foot up and down thing? the part where you lift the sole with thumbs on top and fingers underneath. My rhythm seems totally off and it feels awkward for some reason. the shaking after that I get.
Another questiOn. Can I have people wear socks?
I only ask because I am one of those lucky people who develop sweaty palms when I start to get warm and then my hands get slippery.
I havent' tried it yet but I'm guessing I could have people keep their socks on and still do these moves? Do you have any experience with that?
I still have to practice module 4 but I just watched it and it's so funny, in the beginning you started talking about how you have to 'feel' what you are doing and that's exactly what I was talking about in my last post for module 3!!!! Ha. Exciting.
Write more after practice!
You are right, you have to be careful when you work on people with knee issues or stiff hips. In such cases you should not bend the feet out strongly since that would twist the knee and might cause pain. Also you have to be careful on people with weak ankles and ankles that crackle like they are going to come apart.
This is a rule that applies to Thai Massage in general: The techniques are options to choose from, not mandatory sequences. Not all techniques work for every client. So we have to use our discretion, our experience and our intuition when we work on people, not just apply cookie cutter sequences in a one-size-fits-all fashion.
You could have people keep their socks on. Normally in Thai Massage people always take their socks off, however this is not a rule which is written in stone. I remember, when I studied Zen Shiatsu, the instructor insisted that everyone kept their socks on. So you can do that in whatever way works for you.
I have worked on people who had their socks on and with a few exceptions you can do most techniques just fine.
Lauren, Thai Reflexology is not part of Thai Massage. I have an entire course about Thai Foot Massage which includes Thai Reflexology. This is a totally separate modality.