I enjoyed this module for the second time, as I just decided to enroll for International Certification today and I've been doing the coursework for many months. It is good that you instructed not to post long after viewing each video and practicing, because it requires me to go back and practice what I learned before in a more intentional way.
One of the things I appreciate so much about this course, and which I like about this first module, is the emphasis on energy: the way it flows through the movements and ultimately through the breath, how it connects us to our clients and how much they feel just based on the energy we're putting out. This is a refreshing shift from the Western-based world of personal training which at its worst stresses anatomy above all else to the detriment of movement, regardless of energy. I want my clients to FEEL great in their bodies. I have learned many techniques over the years through books and media and one Thai massage therapist with whom I traded ideas for a few years, also tools and positions, so these bits were familiar to me. Ergonomics are something around which I base much of my training - efficiency and ease of movement - so I love learning more about this always. (Side note: I tried giving someone a stretch session on a table once after years of stretching people on the ground, and it was so hard! Wore out my arms.). In later lessons I have gained so very much from all the ergonomics coaching, and as a result I feel much more relaxed as I work.
The idea that we are doing a dance together is probably my favorite concept, something I have experienced exactly so. Guided by the breath, moving with your partner, feeling your way through the dance and truly connecting - this is healing at its best for me. Today when I see my friend for our session I will be focusing on connecting through the breath and feeling where she is today.
Hi Laura, welcome to the Complete Thai Massage certification program! Please take a moment to familiarize yourself with our Certification Checklist to make sure that it is all correctly organized:
It sounds like you really resonate with the principles laid out in module 1. I remember that you had enrolled in the course quite a few months ago, so by now you probably have gone through quite a bit of it, and this time around will be a reminder to some degree. Many of our students say that when they re-watch modules, they always pick up some things that they had missed previously.
With your yoga and stretching background, this course should fit you like hand-in-glove.
With this module I must say again I appreciate the emphasis on the art, the dance, and the beauty of this practice. I get excited about lines and angles, so I do tend to overemphasize form and position and then I lose touch with my client's energy and my own. Reminding myself that we are dancing together is really helpful. It makes me relax, then it all feels better. This organic approach is already improving how I work with people, even before we start the body part.
The Chi Machine is a great way to start a session! I had been doing it since I watched the video a few months ago, however I was only doing it for a few seconds. After reviewing I did it with my client for over a minute and they really liked it. They did not feel tingly, they just felt good. I enjoyed it, too, as long as I was relaxed. When I started worrying about my pace and my method and everything, then everything stiffened up. Remembering to breath and thinking about relaxing made all the difference. Also the hold at the end let my client shift gears and settle down into her body.
Side note: for this particular client, with whom I've worked for years, the rocking is novel and delightful!
As I review these lessons and speak about it with my personal training clients, I find they are so very willing to receive Thai massage and let me practice! So I've gotten to go over these moves a whole lot. The very hardest one for me is the inward rolling of the whole foot/leg before the smaller foot twists - I think maybe I'm expecting more movement at the hip or something. It always feels stiff to me, no matter the client's flexibility. My initial rocking/circling/rolling feet outward move is getting smoother now as I squeeze the foot more and circle my body a bit smaller and faster than I had been. It's still a little awkward doing the ankle flexion/extension by leaning forward, although when I do it correctly it really makes it so much easier (ergonomics, hurray!). I really appreciate all the reminders to focus on it feeling good, on relaxing myself so my client can relax, and that you could 'just keep circling on the foot like that and nothing else and that they will love it' - all of this points me back to my intuitive attention and breathing focus instead of being in my mind. I enjoy working on feet because almost everyone loves it and I always feel like I could spend more time there. I would love to give some individual attention to the toes when I get more advanced.
Everyone loves the foot work and every foot is a little different! As I practice the 8 directions of the feet it is interesting to observe the increase or decrease of tension in the client's face or breathing. My clients with bunions remind me with their subtle changes in body language that their feet may be more tender than they are telling me, so I back off, and I encourage feedback. I remind them that everyone is different so I very much welcome their subjective experience to make it will feel even better!
The conceptual way of learning works quite well for me. It is logical and helps me flow, because instead of thinking what came next in the instructional video I'm thinking, "what way have I not moved this foot yet?" On the other hand I do like knowing that there are 8 primary ways because then I can count as I go. I probably will not leave out a direction on feet even if the clients needs shoulder work mostly, just because it seems so constructive! As a trainer I see calves and feet being the primary areas of restricted movement in a majority of clients; in fact I have never assessed someone who did not have limited ankle movement, not even a six-year-old or a pro basketball player (my two most "fit" clients 🙂 ).
(Where I got to in the series before I started doing the certification process was the beginning of "Prone," where we are working on the feet again, this time on the underside. I'm looking forward to putting it all together for the whole foot experience.)
It is interesting to notice, when twisting the foot, where the tension collects on a person with flat foot or with high arch. I know technically why this is and which muscle lines are involved, however this twisting sheds a whole new light on the foot, a light perceived with my hands. Feeling the tension patterns and how they change with each angle is so fascinating to me!
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I just wrote the whole post and now I can't see it, so I'm posting Module 5 again. I hope that doesn't happen often - please tell me if I did something differently if you can see that on your end. I posted it, then I saw your response to my last module which was not showing when I posted the module 5 but showed up after I submitted. When I used the link to buy the Foot Massage series, my module 5 notes disappeared.
When I reviewed Module 5 this morning I realized that I had really been skipping much of the warmup and going into the more intense thigh-leaning as a warmup instead. It felt a little aggressive, so I'm glad that I went back and saw how much I was missing of the warmup! When I tried to incorporate it later I found it awkward to roll the calf, that I was finding myself on the shin side instead of the calf side because I hadn't brought the knee up to 90 degrees. I never use notes because my subjects are actually professional clients already who trust me with their bodies - great situation, for sure! and it also means I just need to flow with it and figure it out so they have a stellar, rejuvenating experience regardless of which technique I omit. I will have another session tonight and will practice this again and hopefully Modules 6 and 7 as well.
I noticed that you took advantage of the Thai Foot Massage course sale - good decision.
Regarding the disappearing text, that has happened to me too, and here is a video that shows you what to do about that:
I copy the text in my forum posts into my computer's memory every single time, and that has prevented and fixed this issue 100 percent.
Thank you for helping me with the lost notes problem!
I really like this lesson, probably because I use the forearm so much as a smaller person to add weight. The notes on how to lean in correctly, fully relaxed, are treasures because my arm is quite sharp if I turn it on the edge and sometimes clients have winced. The more I settle in to my breath, the more I feel myself relax then my client is relaxing as well.
The rocking of the leg on top of my leg before starting the lean-ins is a very nice segueway because of the thigh pressure, and almost all of my clients have tight thighs (especially post workout, which is when many of my mini-sessions happen). The technique where one hand pushes the other to lever the upper arm into the 2nd lateral sen line of the thigh is a little bit challenging and I think with more work I'll get the hang of leaning forward with my body instead of pressing. I have strugged with how to get this line for years, and the technique is really cool.
The lateral calf line demonstration made great sense with your description of the 45 degree angles; the mechanics of a perpendicular push are made clear, so I'm getting a strong pressure. I do have a little hard time leaning on the leg and blocking the foot in internal rotation with my knee so I need to figure out how the angles need to shift. "Walking on the hamstring" at 90 degrees, inner thigh up, is one of my all-time favorite moves - my youngest child's absolute favorite in her soccer years- but I used to do just that, so the leg was not attended to on all sides.
I am drawn to the idea of starting at the foot and working upward, and yet the information is not necessarily in my head like that yet, so like a dance I am currently working with the flow and seeing how I can make it smooth and wonderful, not worrying about it. Your words that it needs to feel goooooood all the time are always present.
Taking a moment to evaluate how the hips are opening or not naturally is something I need to remind myself to do in the beginning right after my Chi machine I think. I usually end up comparing the sides as we move through, and how much time I could save exploring if I looked first.
I now realize I was jumping in to this lesson's material on the last notes about the hamstring walking technique (I reviewed those two videos in succession). I'm pretty sure it's stuck in my head like that because I'm thinking about the hamstring pressure as a warmup technique, but it really is a stretch the way you show it. The inner thigh butterfly press is one that I almost always need to support with a pillow, and I find myself doing the knee-cross-hip rocking for most everyone because they seem to like it and most people seem to need extra attention here without extra pressure. If someone's inner thighs were extremely tight, now I have several techniques in my toolbox that address that progressively. Review is such a good thing and I'm glad that it is necessary for me to go back because there are so many things I absorb the second time around, like on the thigh pull/rock where the person's knee is straight toward ceiling, bent at knee - just the detail of pulling it "across toward your opposite shoulder" has made it a whole different experience, one that makes my clients look happier. 🙂
The hip-pie is such a useful concept! It really helps me keep organized in my flow, especially as I switch from one side to the other. I'm curious if we start the 45 degree angles with the leg rotated outward because that's the most natural - that's my guess.
The many variations of the hamstring press straight up (12:00) are handy tools to have on hand as I am one of those shorter people who needs extra leverage sometimes. I have a professional basketball player- supertall -that I train sometimes and when I lean on his hamstrings I stand up really tall and use my foot; for a medium-tall person I often use my shin/calf and lean in that way while holding the foot; for short folks like me I can use my hand, however I didn't really have one for that in-between person. The forearm lean-in is that move! It feels like the quadricep lean-in per intensity and in how much deeper the person's body will allow me to sink in if I am breathing easily and relaxed. Also a problem with the way I had been doing it is that I was lengthening the hamstring just to do the technique, to get my leg in there, and that was quite often too much too soon. The forearm hamstring technique is one I could give to almost everyone who walks in my door for training!
Because I have seen the videos ahead, I'll say now that I am going to be more attentive this time when I'm watching all the different parts of the hip pie because when I've tried to recreate all 8 angles with the knee bent, then I start to do some of those angles with the leg straight, I realize I am missing some of the straight-leg techniques.
I'm glad the notes work to paint a picture! I figure the better picture I can give you, the more you can help me.
Module 8 addendum
One more thing about the hip-pie:
I have a dear friend and client who has started therapy for cancer, and her legs have been quite swollen. She did a personal training session with me with my verbal guidance on stretches, and that was good, but the swelling was bothersome. I know there are very particular guidelines for massage during oncological treatment, so the acupressure did not seem to be an option for us yet (at least not until I learn all about it), however the Chi machine seemed like it might really help done gently. We did about an hour of just rocking moves for the lower body in most of the hip-pie positions, and it made her swelling go down significantly!
I agree with you on how you set up the session. Rocking is amazingly effective while being so gentle that you can almost never cause any discomfort (except for full-body rocking via the hip on people who tend to get 'sea sick' very easily, but those are pretty rare). Rocking can work when most other techniques do not in some cases.