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December 3, 2012 - 8:25 am
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Hi Shama and other members,

I am looking forward to my journey into learning more about the intricasies ofThai Healing Massage and will post my updates here. Thank you for your warm welcome Shama.

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December 3, 2012 - 2:43 pm
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Welcome to the course and to the forum, Kim. I know we have been communicating previously, and I am glad you came onboard. It will be a journey to learning many wonderful skills, and I am looking forward to working with you and assisting you whenever you need it!

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Hi Shama,

I have now viewed and practised the 'Chi Machine' and absolutely love it!  Practising Qigong is definitely a bonus for me and integrates so well with the whole concept of breath, sense of touch, energy, mindset, ergonomics and mechanics, etc. The rocking movement was appreciated and a joy to perform. Your explanations and demonstrations are easy to understand and I really like that you put your heart and soul into teaching this art form.  Awesome course so far, and thank you for helping with technical issues so I can get on with learning!

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Great to meet a fellow lover of the Chi Machine! And I love it that you relate so well to the concepts of breath, sense of touch, energy and mindset. These are all concepts that touch the heart of Thai Massage, that go beyond the mechanical aspect of the techniques. They are what turns Thai Massage into an art form.

I am glad we got your technical issues sorted out.

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I watched the foot massage video many times before I practised and even drew figures of the hand positions and movement directions so it would be easier for me to remember. I am someone who needs to see pictures in my mind, and have access to them and practise, practise, practise!!! The second part is the hardest for me.....anticlockwise circling while pressing and turning the foot in sequence but it is coming along.......my son's favourite part!

 

Anyway, it is all coming together. Everything always seems overwhelming at first but I just add on a little bit each time and get there in the end.

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Feeling a little overwhelm in the beginning is quite normal - that will go away with more practice and familiarity with the process. This is a big reason why I deliver all my courses gradually and not all at once. This would be a real overwhelm - 15 hours of training with hundreds of techniques at all once, can you imagine!

This will be very helpful for you that you are committed to really practice. That's the secret to success right there.

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The second part of Foot Massage really clarified everything for me and with more practise I am getting the flow happening. Conceptual thinking really gels the whole process for me, and it is almost meditational when my whole body is in motion. It is great, and very good instructions and explanations. I always like to know the underlying meaning of things, and then I can and bring more feeling and connection to what I am doing utilising other skills in the process. Thanks once again.

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"it is almost meditational when my whole body is in motion"

This is exactly how it is supposed to feel. I am glad you experienced this already Smile.

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Leg warm ups are coming along nicely.....I find positioning of prime importance to get the right feeling for myself and my practise partner so I am having to keep re-watching the videos for reminders, and also for the transitions from one position to the next. I get honest feed back which helps because my son does not like me touching his ankles much, and also too much pressure here and there, so I have to be delicate even though he is a strong boy!

I like the forearm warm ups as well because I like the idea of not over-working my hands and fingers. I need to practise consistently as I do with anything I want to get good at. It really comes down to comfort and feeling for me, and the same way I learn qigong.....it is all about doing it for the maximum benefit for health and well-being, not just going through the motions.

 

 

 

 

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Qigong is good example of doing something in a very conscious way. When Thai Massage is done by "just going through the motions", it is a mechanical way of moving body parts. When it is done with focus, awareness, breath and good ergonomics, it becomes a true healing art.

I know I repeat this often, but it is the very foundation of the Thai Healing Massage system. It is what makes it unique and what gives it  life.

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Noticing the way someone's feet are naturally positioned and taking into consideration body and height, etc makes this into an individualized art-form, and it is great! I immediately lay down and noticed how my feet lie, and thankfully I don't have any hip problems and intend to keep it that way! The slow plodding elephant movement and rocking is great before the butterfly stretch, and I am constantly learning something new. I have seen and practised the feet-walk up the inner thigh before but good to know the specific angle and hand positioning for maximum benefit, and how to transition from one position to the next.

Hopefully I can just relax into the movements more as at the moment I am trying to remember everything and maybe sometimes it is a little too much thinking, and less flow and rhythm.

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Sure, in the beginning you have to think about the techniques. At the other end of the spectrum, once you have completely internalized it all, you can work on someone and spontaneously create new techniques and new ways of doing things. It is like your creativity is bubbling up and manifesting new expressions of this art form. I know you are not there yet, but I just mention this as a preview of coming attractions. Smile

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I like the diversity of the ways to perform the same stretch, especially the rocking down movement, and anything that involves rocking really....it seems so soothing and natural. I feel like a majestic yet gentle elephant plodding up and down but treading with care of course. I love the rhythm when everything connects and I am in the 'zone'.

 

It is also very helpful to think of the hip as a 'pie-chart' or ' hip-pie' evaluate what the individual is capable of and also to remember various movements just like with the feet.

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That's a great description you came up with there: 'I feel like a majestic yet gentle elephant plodding up and down but treading with care of course'. And yes, the zone is where you ultimately want to spend most of your time in the massage session.

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I'm still trying out the variations on the stretches, and really like that I can adapt to body type and size because I never learned in this way before.  I always thought there must be a style that suits me and my visual/sensory way of learning so I am glad I perservered and discovered this course! I really like the fact that all the stretches are tailored to the individual and their capacity and flexibility.

 

I practise, and do what I remember, and re-watch the videos, and then practise some more so gradually things are starting to gel. Transitioning from one position to the next without disconnecting requires a little extra consideration but I will get there.

 

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I have heard that from several students, that they had never learned how to adjust the techniques to  different body types and body sizes or weights. Without this knowledge you only have a mechanical system. I call it the 'one-size-fits-all' Thai Massage which is unfortunately practiced a lot. The art of it is to be able to adjust your massage to any condition or body type you encounter. This is a skill that takes quite a lot of practice, and on many different people, to develop. I keep mentioning it throughout my videos so that none of my students ever get into the 'one-size-fits-all' mentality. Smile

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It is really good to pick and choose the techniques and adapt them to different body types and to kind of get the knack of flowing from one position to another and seeing it demonstrated over and over again. Like you say, I don't remember everything, and I tend to just rock or wiggle or circle when I am fathoming what to do next. I really like elephant walking....it tends to lead me into the next movement gradually and with more ease.  I try not to over think everything, and it is all coming together slowly. Using the pain scale is a really good idea, and using positive language and having rapport are essential ingredients.

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Sounds like the non-technical components of Thai Massage are starting to sink in with you. Great!

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January 27, 2013 - 12:55 pm
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I've been working on refining the hip movements, and trying out the various stretches.....unfortunately my 'model' is of the ticklish variety in that region but does his best to comply. Transitioning from one side to the other takes a bit of practise to make it smooth but is coming along.

 

For the stomach region I really like the 'wave', and the gentle movements with breathing to assess the area. My son liked this well enough so all is good. Personally, I don't like being touched there but these techniques might just sway me.

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I have 'swayed' quite a few people with the abdominal work, and I have put a lot of them into a trance-like state which they really enjoyed. You can get quite dramatic results with it for all kinds of issues. I hope that you will get a chance to experience it yourself at some time.

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