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Karin Secrest
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November 19, 2018 - 12:20 pm
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Hi Schama,

Here I am... back again. I studied Sen Lines before but I would avoid and ignore using them as they would hurt my thumb. So, indeed I am looking forward with curiosity to explore alternative ways of using hand, knee, foot or whatever method to save my hand. I can't imagine doing too much SEN work when something hurts.

Hence, I am looking forward to learning more.

SEN ENERGY TRAINING - Module I - Intro - Main Concepts

It is interesting to find out what are those lines and what they are not? Apparently there is no agreement. It appears that it is often between muscles, fascia and ligaments. Strangely it seems that some people do not appear to believe in energy but since all life is energy - how can that be otherwise - after all, transformation and movement alone is an ongoing flowing miracle and part of what we do all the time. The fact that we can move is indeed based on energy... I liked when you said that feelings and thoughts are a form of energy. That is very well put. I also liked the way you are upfront telling that you have your own way of teaching based on experience (motto: safe your thumb).

Sen - a pathway of energy and how to work on the line, I do look forward to develop deeper intuition, more feelings and tight intention to bring forth flow, balance and harmony.

I am glad we protect our hands through circling, rocking, rolling, shaking systems. 

SEN ENERGY TRAINING - Module 2 - Locating the Leg Lines

The thumb pressure sure will kill the thumbs - especially if one is being asked to do all the lines every session - it sounds really tough to me. I like the motion way: circling, rolling, rocking, shaking - plus we can support our fingers with the other hand. I am glad to work with you trying to find the hand preserving ways to work with clients.

Starting point of energy lines is the navel (Interesting)... I had no idea, I wonder why? Perhaps of the fire of digestion, or the way wind (vayus) flow? We will see how it unfolds. Not working SEN on the knee is interesting as the knee has it's own way of treatment, so it seems, plus it is bony. I had not trouble finding the lines. The grooves between the quads and adductors were easy to feel. I felt the femoral artery.

Palpating the third line towards the floor - I turned my palms upward and wonder if I could approach the SEN that way? I have to explore.

SEN ENERGY TRAINING - Module 3 - Working outside Leg Lines

Exploring right ergonomics was a good beginning way to explore this lesson. The thumb work - "the traditional way" - was not my thing and I know I would avoid/ignore it. I enjoyed the variety: using elbow, heel of hand/circular motion, even knee - the ways were easy to apply... line no 3, I explored turning my palm upward pushing the fingers in, but that too could create carpal tunnel syndrome as it is hard to put pressure upward and lean into the hand in that position. So, I look forward working on the leg, perhaps in the side lying manner...

See you soon... 🙂

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I don't know if you heard me tell the story. My Thai Massage career was almost killed before it got off the ground by excessive thumbing of all those energy lines almost 20 years ago. That's what inspired me to come up with something much safer and more therapist friendly. That's the reason why I never teach the traditional approach to sen line work. It's just too easy to hurt yourself with it. 

I can see that we are in agreement on this issue. We have to take care of ourselves first before we can help others. No therapist-endangering techniques on my watch! Smile

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Yes, Shama I sure heard your story and I am glad you found so many solutions - for all of us too. I too had trouble - even with my hands and forearms... but I build up some strength over time. That was no easy process and sometimes I thought I had carpal tunnel, but really, I was just building my strength and the ligaments became more strong as well. I need to stretch my hands a lot though to keep them open.

 

SEN ENERGY TRAINING – Module 4 – Working Inside Leg Lines

I notice that Thai line work is very much common sense.

Again, there are different ways to do the work. The alternative ways are of course what I am interested in.

On my practice person, I got revealed that it felt very good to move energy down those lines (at various points of congestion). Also, in our Thai work we often work at these lines, even if we know nothing at all about it. All the various methods came naturally easy using fingertips, heel of hands and using the soft part of the elbow in a circular fashion. Transition from lower leg to upper is easy no matter if we approach it from the inside or the outside of the leg, finding the various grooves. We even have the choice using the feet again. Easy enough!

 

SEN ENERGY TRAINING – Module 5 –Arm and Back Lines

About the upper arm, I often wondered how to find the lines as well. I liked that you made it easier as they appear a bit undefined at the upper arm. Rolling out the lines up and down, switching hands from right to left you end up automatically addressing at the “right” lines – remembering that there are different opinions about the lines we can take it easy here. The squeeze and roll out technique alternating were very nice to practice. It felt good to do on the hands.

The lines at the back were logical along the spine in between the erectors.  We can easy do our back techniques up and down using any part of the body we want to use.

Working on leg line no 3 doing elephant walk made sense.

Outside leg no 3 at the fibula bone I can see that it is sensitive. The calf can be sensitive as well sometimes especially at the area were gastrocnemius divides in the middle. Practical that we can control the lines when we rest it on our thigh. Gentle circling does make perfect sense here at this sensitive area.

 

SEN ENERGY TRAINING – Module - 6–Foot and Hand Lines

Tracing the lines on hands and feet was easy enough. Even here were can use the elbow. Good to divide the foot into 3 lines when not using the thumbs (saving them for long term use). Yes, one could also step in the foot and use our feet to work them in a more generalized manner. One could use the thumb in case there is a reason to get to the lines. I often work in between the lines as well… which can be part of reflexology.

Working in the hands it is easy to work the energy lines except there is a client with huge hands. Again, we can use other methods. Heel of hand of the hand was new to me. Elbow I rarely have used but why not? Forearm work was also interesting on the hand. There are so many approaches to the way we want to flow as there are people. Yes, the SEN line was part of Thai massage, I can see that clearly as I experienced it practically. It all appears integrated into the system already.

These lesson really cleared up for me that Sen work is part of the Thai work already, except I may not have been aware of it. I can let the flow take over.

Practicing these lines was beautiful as I after the lesson do integrate them as I am inspired by the moment. Theree is nothing nicer than to flow free in the work.

There is still a bonus lesson to go through... So I will be back once more for that. All in all these lines are really common sense. Important is that we move energy and that is why we need to be aware of the flow of energy in between areas.

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You are right, many of the Thai techniques are built upon working along the sen lines, even if you are not aware of it.

In this course I have attempted to make the sen lines easy to understand without a lot of complicated theory or language, and without presenting them as some mystical or spiritual concept. I wanted therapists to be able to relate to the sen lines in a practical way and make the techniques therapist-friendly at the same time.

It seems to have worked for you! Smile

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Bonus Course - Module 7

Making sense of SEN like, removing the blockage in the lines, makes so much sense. One can palpate the blockage often or treat them more medically (see Thai compresses). Moving energies is what we do through connecting the with the flow of the client adjusting to their needs really. Create an intention to unblock it. The pictures may guide our intentions... One can also notice that if a person is additionally very heady, wants to speak fast all the time (like a stock market broker) that moving the energy away from the head might be helpful... as too much thoughts are flowing through the head, one may find for instance, that the person has a stiff neck and tight shoulders (perhaps one picks up anxiety), so working at the arms make sense. 

So the body mind can be addressed in massage and also the SEN lines. Our hands are palpating in so many ways and we can feel and look for obstructions along the way and then we work in stagnation and invite healing and relaxation. Visions can appear of healing and light and it might help to engage with these internal informations and use them to guide through the lines to clear up toxins and stagnations in joints and muscles. 

Thanks for this nice course. I am glad that we do not need to iverly intellectualize about these lines. Balance is is key to healing. When the river flows freely, Pranah or Qi also flows. So true to remind us that we all are energetically connected and as such it matters what the mind ideates upon. It is then definitely true to sense and see the highest expression in all of our clients and yes in all of life really.

Sweet class.... thank you Schama!

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Exactly - by observing the client, by listening, or by asking questions we can get a good idea what is going on, and where someone might need work. I always found the intuitive way to be more effective (at least for me) than a more scientific method. For me the Thai Massage work always has an energetic component without getting too intellectual about it.

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