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To be started soon: 🙂

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Heavenly Head Massage - Module 1 - Introduction

Yes, I noticed too that the sitting positions, at the very end of Traditional Thai Massage, is not really that what many Westerners would look for. I found that odd too at the time. We like do into go a deeper form of relaxation (which is meant to integrate what happened) and hence, I am so looking forward to this course. I have done Ayurvedic Massages on the head and Shirodhara Oil treatments which are very mesmerizing and uplifting to the body/mind.

Often I am too much into the technical aspects of treatment massages o even though I prefer the FLOW... which comes along the way as well, if I got a grip of the complications I have to face with some client with more complex issues. I have to listen in in so many ways. Transitioning into HHM will be so beautiful to bring the Flow back at the end - or give some extra tome to the client. I gain much to learn from others and along the way discover my own intrinsic way as I have developed my own issues in life, which I treat very positively and in an all embracing manner. I discovered that pain (my own here) wants to be loved too and from there I go. I manage during work to be always pain free and that is a miracle too. I take care best I can.

The items we need - the blanket - I discovered that that is the way to go. People do get cold easily especially, as you said "the metabolism slows down," and as we have in addition the cold winter to come in the NW of the US we need to keep the clients warm. Here in the US a hot water bottle comes in handy (I don't like the heat of microwave ovens to heat up flax seeds - as microwave energy really does not feel right to me). Pillows and towels are always handy with me. I wish - I could find and integrate old fashioned Fango (heated mud) packaging from Europe, but they are hardly used in the US and really hard to find.

The pressing down of the shoulders (90) degree and from shoulder to feet was different doing it once on the table and once on the floor. And yes, my shire got entangled over the clients nose including my tiny neck shawl tickled her (well imagine dangling jewelry, which could be very impractical)

I really like that you think every possibility really through as much as possible, from weight to the client to possible wearing impractical cloth, which is necessary, especially if there are beginners, but even the so called advanced practitioner can be clumsy at times, it is just human, I look forward to the flow taking over, that is the time when everything is just right for both the receiver and the giver.

Also, when I pressed the shoulders down (90 degree), one side felt different and popped. It turned out that the women fell and that something is off. It was as if the acromion was out. I told her to see a Osteopath or a chiropractic as she had pain when I leaned into that - and it was not really coming from the muscle but from the joints.

In addition, you mentioned that the Heavenly Head Massage is one of your creations. Having 18 modules means that you put a lot of love into that. I really appreciate this a lot. 

Heavenly Head Massage - Module 2 - Sternum

It is easy to get too much pressure on this part if one is not used to it - and I moved lightly here using the body weight. You used the words ("Do not press and do not muscle people" for a reason). The weight f the body must be used very carefully and with energetic awareness - I liked when you said "encourage the breath through movement (rather than words).

I worked once on the floor and then later on the table. The thumb work was not working as well on the table as it was slightly too high but using the fingers gently worked well enough too. With one heavily chested person I had to use my fingers again as I could not hook the hand at the side of the chest. It worked, and was received well. It is amazing to me to show how different people are here, some have huge spaces between the ribs (even women) others are tightly spaced and hardly the thumb fits in there. It is good to go a couple of times up and down and widen the space.

I had a bit trouble synchronizing my breath with the clients. People appear to hardly breathe. So I waited gently till I noticed the breath. 

I remember the acupuncture points at the sternum - at the edge - they are often extra sensitive. It appeas as people store a lot of trauma, emotion and also loving bliss in that area.

The later of techniques, use the side of the hand, rocking, wiggling, circling, percussion was nice. The side of the hand was also a nice feeling on the sacrum moving up down, wiggling (as my friend also practiced on me, I really liked how that felt). All if that applied energetically, synchronize the breath, using HARA (not comparably brute muscle force), ideation will invite an energetic shift as the quality of touch changes into flow. I experienced that many times.

I admit that sometimes, I loose awareness of the flow. It's as if I enter and exit the state of the flow (playing hide and seek with me) and then it appears to be gone. I do not always belong to people who can hold it up the whole time. It's like getting rare moments of bliss in mediation, I can't hold that either, s soon as I am noticing the bliss - gone it is. "Deep Flow" seems to have also an own intrinsic "flow." But just opening to it works. so I go in and out of it and often I stay for longer. You are a very good teacher as again and again you remind the learner that the flow is most important to cultivate (that is what it is for me). Flow of life is always there but sometimes we sink deeper into it than other times. Whenever the Ego-awareness goes flow enters - so it seems - whatever that ego is.

Heavenly Head Massage - Module 3 - Chest/Part2

The various layers along the ribs, the rolling thumb method (outward) starting below the clavicle was very much enjoyed by the receiver. I noticed that the rolling thumb method (leaning in all so slightly) makes it easier to not go to hard. Rolling thumb is really so much more graceful than just pushing or poking inward. I am actually really interested to work also the intercostals in general. I rarely the the opportunity. Perhaps with rolling thumb method this won't trigger the tickle. Rolling thumb (more entire thumbs) near the pec, having the hand tucked unter the axilla also felt good (to me and my friend) even when not paying attention to the ribs.

Hand over hand method moving downward.... I need to practice that again --- I wanted to stick to circles, as this is a brain pattern from before and not push down. One lade had no chest tissue and moving downward was not working that well - hence the circular felt a bit better actually. I need to practice that some heavier chested different body types.

Walking on the chest, moving the collarbone downward, was new (...or less experienced with...) to me as well. I want to practice that one more next week. 

At the soft spot at the acromium. The spot at the acromium at the clavicle going straight got me a little as I tend to want to go lower towards the traps. I noticed that I just follow this technically as these moves were new to me.

Then when we came to elephant walking that was familiar as this is one of my favorite moves, when in doubt I always get back to this move. I liked that you explained this so well technically as I was not 90 degrees when I started but. It is really a nice that the weight is always equally distributed before one should is let to go. This really needs to be released, as over time one (me too) can become lax with the ways which feels best.

With the shoulder twist - above the head (3x) - I had not too much trouble here. I loved doing it and receiving it. Of course your transitioning is excellent and that is always the part were I am less perfect but I can do it slightly slower in my ways. It was very beautiful to watch you and to practice it but I need to practice it again, so I don't forget the details. I tried to remember it the other day and I could not remember it.

(This lesson I will repeat next once more)... I think there are some parts which I want to look t again.

So - this is it for today and it is Thanksgiving here. Whatever that day means or not means it is always good to say a THANK YOU and wish Happiness and Higher and Deeper Love to ALL every day.

So, Happy Thanksgiving and a Happy Spiritual Inner Life (true happiness).Laugh

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Wow, that was a really eloquent and in-depth write-up of your experience. I can feel that not only are your hands in it, but your heart as well. And yes, you are right, I put A LOT of time and energy into developing this system and turning it into 18 modules. And I am so happy that I did it! Smile

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Sorry for making spelling errors. It seems that the browser does not pick them all up. One time I meant to say sternum and wrote sacrum...  pff... 😮

Anyway, I know you understand. 

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Don't worry about spelling mistakes - that's the least of my concerns! Laugh

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Heavenly Head Massage – Module 4 – Neck Work 1

I have been enjoying the lessons so far but am a bit behind with writing my experiences up. Things are getting busy at times. I practiced almost every lesson so far twice - once on the floor and once on the table... just to feel the difference.

Yes, "the Wave", I could not practice well on the table, this move is definitely a candidate for the flow. On the table I could not do the lifting foot move, but instead, I pushed the shoulders down and that felt not quite as good but pretty good, especially when this is done rhythmically.

The four moves on up and down the neck 1. pulling the neck gently up, 2. circle, 3. circle alternating, pull away from the neck outwardly. These moves just are too delicious to be true. I traded with my friend and got to experience it... the way relaxation is induced was indeed "semi-blissful" for the cells of the neck. I sure will remember this one.

Heavenly Head Massage – Module 5 – Neck Work 2

I liked the way the hair was addressed in the video. After all there are people who have hair at the back of the neck and that can be very uncomfortable. I liked the subtle way of keeping the head leveled and keeping the head supported and safe. This seems common sense, but still, to refine this "common sense," that is part of the art. Jojoba oil is a tridoshic oil in Ayurveda and really good for almost everybody. It is so mice to work with. Nice that it is not too greasy.

The way you gently move the head was easy to follow, but, I noticed how I usually slow down when I practice with you videos. The best part of this lesson was to remain slow... SLOW DOWN... that is what I need myself and tell myself, and... it's not that I rush things, but I am often not as slow as you are, especially when the client want to finish up in time. However, to work slower is incredible beneficial. I think I just don't let time constrain me when I am in session with a real client - I could ask if I can go a bit over the time in advance - just in case. Overall this lesson was going smoothly.

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"These moves just are too delicious to be true." Haha, I hope you don't relegate these moves to the realm of fiction. They are true! Laugh

I didn't know that Jojoba is a tri-doshic oil in Ayurveda - good to know.

In my own practice, I have never paid much attention to time, I have to admit. Lots of my clients got more time than they paid for. So far nobody ever complained about that. Smile Slow is definitely the way to go with HHM.

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Heavenly Head Massage – Module 6 – Neck Work  

The neck roll – low on the neck and then occiput, that was no problem at all and reminded me on a mini wave. I compared a but for fun.. instead of a 45 degree angle we have a different more horizontal angle here. It feels wave like to me too (when it was done to me... just the angle differs and it is less intense. It was nice easy to practice. 

The refinement of your explanations are very good and although the moves are not that hard, they are refined and that refinement is not that easy to master really. All I can say, the flow and common sense (and an uplifting healing ideation) teaches the way at the end. The refinement lies in the way how the hand lifts and drops the head, depending on the angle of the head, or the way fingers or hands are used, different wave like moves are manifested... very interesting from the technical point actually.  That is really very good to practice and to receive (which I have as my friend likes to trade). No problems with the rest of the wonderful pulling moves. Let the index finger drop down at the end was another heavenly dream move. Not sure what lesson was my favorite bit this is one of them.

Heavenly Head Massage – Module 7 – Neck Work 4

I had some difficulty with the arm. My angle did not want to be aligned right and I kept touching the ear with my arm while lifting, perhaps the leverage was not right as my arm is shorter than yours in the movie. This move requires more cultivation. 

The sideway stretches were interesting as the head was held towards the side. using both hands pulling forward behind the neck was interesting as the knee was holding the forehead in place – It was another inspiration to practice and receive.

All together these moves are so impressive that I want to "merge" (?) with them so I will not forget a single one.

I sure enjoy these lessons.

So that is how far I am right now... moving slower a bit. I will be back next week.

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I am glad that you are enjoying the lessons. Regarding the merging - I had that feeling countless times when I was doing HHM sessions, that I entered into this flow state, where I almost didn't feel my body anymore and felt like in a deep meditation. At the end of the sessions I often feel just as much 'tranced out' as my client.

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Heavenly Head Massage – Module 8 – Neck Work 

This lesson required a bit dexterity, especially when the heel of the hand and the fingers moved  the head sideways in a slightly pushing and moving the head in opposing directions. A Very subtle move to be appreciated. I had no problems after it became part of me. The next technique looked as if we do  a number 8 move, starting the move turning the head sideways over and move the head over 180 degrees and  turn the head and move it all the way to the other side. This too required some dexterity and I loved practicing it till my practice person (I sensed had enough) appeared to have enough. One could get indeed seasick from this move. Sideways lifting and rocking was a very nice and easy interlude easy to remember when the time is ready, indeed. At the end the finger went to the ridge at the earlobe… Next bony protrusion is actually a point (Vidhura or karna Marma), which can be also integrated (from Ayurveda).

Heavenly Head Massage – Module 9 – Ear Work

Head massage starting with the ear is indeed very pleasant. Once I had a client once who asked for 1 hour of ear massage. Having done foot reflexology which also included ear reflexology helped to last a long time and the rest I did the head massage. I liked how the digits are going in circles over and under the ear up and down and there were no problems. It was odd putting the thumb into the ridge and following the ridge. I felt a bit uneasy there, thinking what if the ear is dirty or hairy ? :-). Light stroking over the ear, I had to move over the top of my hand to reach the skull. Rolling the index finger at the crease at the groove behind the earlobe of the skull, I got good feedback. Scissor technique, I also learned earlier from Ayurveda massage. They end at the karna marma of one wishes I really like that the index digits is rotated turned and pulled back instead of simply rotating. It felt so much better to me and my friend. Closing out the sound is very relaxing as well as it really becomes quiet inside. Yes, and it instantly felt protective. I may like to integrate some Marma points. Vasant Lad is really my favorite teacher of Ayurveda and he has some wonderful videos on you tube. This is perhaps not traditional but it had an expansive energy to explore that field.

https://www.ayurveda.com/pdf/m.....xcerpt.pdf

Heavenly Head Massage – Module 10 – Head Work 1

The techniques for the head were indeed very unique. So many ways to work at the skin through the hair. Rubbing (sliding), friction (move skin), holding (brings peace), the light jumping technique (I had to practice that really some more), shampoo pressure motion, all etc. of these want to be remembered as they are all really feeling very different. The differences are indeed very unique and I need to go over that lesson a couple of times more. I liked at the and when we put pressure moving across the top of the hand in a criss/cross fashion. Like in many other technique we put often more pressure leaning out and less pressure when moving in. The details were simply astounding. Getting entangled in the hair was really a problem. Mastering head massage is really a never ending art. In real life, I notice that I do longer chest, neck and head massages on my clients as I remember some moves. And: they are all appreciated.

So, I wrote more about technique... flow comes later... I still need to know a bit where I am at in the area and pay some caring attention here. Just holding the ears in silence or the head however, turns receiver and giver both inward. One can hold areas a minute or so to induce this state of silent relaxation/meditation, which can invites a quieter "flow" of stillness perhaps.

So, I noticed that it was your Birthday. Happy Birthday and higher and deeper inner healing and happiness, thatI wish for you to manifest ever more. 🙂Laugh

The new format for the Complete Thai Massage Course looks really very inspiring and inviting. The color choices were harmonizing and excellent. I can't wait to sign up there at a later point again when I need credits...  I just love this format over the computer and finding my own time to be ready to learn.

Namaste! 

 

 

 

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A one-hour ear massage - that's an unusual request for sure. Did you actually do it?

If someone has hairy or dirty ears, then obviously you would skip the ear-ridge technique. Like always, the techniques are options to choose from, not mandatory sequences.

It seems that this all goes well with your Ayurveda massage style. The more we know the better.

Thanks for your appreciation of the new course presentation. Soon All courses will be on one platform, easily accessible, and looking really professional. That has been my goal for a long time!

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This weeks practice session with my friend (we traded) was very interesting as we both went into a very deep state of wakeful relaxation leaving the brain refreshed. It was perhaps the deepest head massage I ever experienced. It was like the kind of meditation which is pre-bliss leaving the brain very light and open. I think I can never finish a session without working this way as well.

Heavenly Head Massage – Module 11 – Head 2

Different motions giving different sensations was a wonderful practice from rubbing to shampooing, to jumping, etc.. Grabbing the hair the way you did it with the entire hand was new to me as I used my fingers usually and the sensation differs when you do it with the entire hand when compared to the fingers as the hand grabs more hair naturally. I really liked the thenar eminence moves (as that part of the hand is really very soft) at the side of the head and temples in the 1, 2, 3 ,2, 1 move. Moving slowly, it felt as if craniosacral fluids were moved.

Luckily, I was very comfortable here... so no shaking hands whatsoever was to be felt. Thanks for reminding to work with the entire body, the Hara, in a subtle way – even when doing the HHM.

Heavenly Head Massage – Module 12 – Face  1

Working with the third eye had a tremendously relaxing effect on both of us (we were trading again) feeling to it. The way we worked the nose moving up the thumbs at the bone of the nose was very new and inspiring to me. This video I can practice also as self massage... it feels sooooo good,  the even as self-massage on the face. Moving the hands below the eyebrow and actual on and above eyebrow the second and third move.... the fanning routine all of that was such a new and wonderful way to practice. These new moves will be wonderful to naturally integrate. The sophisticated move (medium outstroke pressure, in stroke no pressure at the bone below the eyes the medium pressure is only done outwardly), was interesting as I was not aware that the skin can be pulled in uncomfortable ways if one dies not lighten up the pressure.

The opening and closing, the fanning technique and the opening elliptical circle was so logical – and systematic... it was a pleasure to practice and as such ingrained into me for integration. It is nice to remind that these moves are done slowly... for a fast thinking mind like mine slowing down is always an issue.... (it's good to meditated for me).Smile

It's holiday time and I will be leaving for a yoga retreat over new years. I wish you and your family the very best. I will be back after the new year 2019. Wish you a "Gude Rutsch" as we say in Hessen.

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You clearly got into the spirit of the head and face massage and experienced exactly how it is supposed to feel like.

Enjoy the holidays and your yoga retreat! Smile

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Heavenly Head Massage – Module 13 – Face  2

This module was again subtle. It was peaceful tp practice and also receive (me friend wanted to return the favor). The heel of the palm is again so nurturing to practice. I too practiced some move via self-massage. Sliding down the cheek-bone felt good when I did id on myself in reversed fashion, the elliptical circle.

As an interlude, I practiced some of the moves with my kitties and guess what happens: they follow me now everywhere asking for either Thai bodywork (mini elephant walk resembles rooting and HHM). I don't have much trouble practicing the moves, but remembering is always the key. But, no matter what I remember and practice - everything becomes so peaceful.

I remember you saying that you should not uselessly jump around, work face, than head, then neck but stay at one area a while and flow into the next naturally. That was a good advice actually which I keep in mind. Getting the subtleties straight is really the art. Using the fingers pushing in alternatively was really special to me as I never really worked much with the chin, or under the chin of anybody.

The part of getting the jawline between fingers and coin-rub outwardly gente was so new to me. Thes new moves are so easy flowing...

Heavenly Head Massage – Module 14 – Energy Work

Energy work is really the basis of it all. Keeping the hands over one place for 3 to 10 breaths is so incredible soothing and calming. Rolling slowly out of any move is what I will always integrate. It adds a perfect flow and so much calm and peace to the sacred present moment. 

I love to inhale bringing energy up and out the arm.... my client fell asleep long ago. Energy work is always good to repeat... not that I would not know but we all have a signature and your signature is fine to absorb again and again... setting an intention... along the way according to the situation using a healing word along. The seven methods of holding are so valuable indeed. I am very interested to make this part of my flowing. It's to nice to forget. I am so glad to have a print out and look the subtle parts over... again... It's not that the heavenly head massage is a technique but the technique also makes of a better flow. I am sure, even if I remember viewer holding ways, it still would be just nice as the healing ideation makes the most special flow.

I really have no words for describing how good the energies feel as the giving and receiving felt deep - perhaps even beyond words. When I write this I feel as if my words can not really reveal what is happening... as if the present moment takes over and thinking and even writing becomes obsolete... (I remember how good that felt so words are not good enough to tell).

Thank you Shama.

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In spite of saying that words are not enough to tell, you did a great job expressing beautiful sentiments about your experience with this, and I am very glad to be able to read those words. I know what you mean - sometimes words cannot capture everything, but since I know the experience of it, I know exactly what you are trying to say. Smile

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Heavenly Head Massage – Module 15 – Neck Therapy

The rocking experience was interesting on the neck, as one of my client had some resistance and I had to be very ultra gently with the rocking. I had to tell the clients that I practice some rocking motions including sideways rocking motions. Once the client understood what I was offering they could let go. I think they the client was not used to the rocking motions.... then they let go... the mini figure eight was. Sideways rocking required some coordination initially but that was alright. The neck work had some nice refinements included which were easy to adapt for example - circular motion at the side of the neck. Holding the neck fixing it with the knee safe, using both hands at the opposing end to glide alternatingly at the opposing end was powerful and very releasing. 

I used the rocking and offset methods at the neck with my clients --- together with lifting methods... was very well received.

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There was a move from the previous lesson which I experimented with this method over the face and neck area and I stayed calm for 5-10 breaths... then opening the fingers slowly I realized that I used this method not just in the face but also at the neck, heart and navel area. It is amazingly relaxing the move and I can literally feel heat escaping when I open my hands all so slowly. I call this method now the Lotus Flower Opening.  The move felt like surrendering a lotus flower to the universe and in that center of the flower is heal. What escaped was the part not needed anymore... perhaps tension. 

Anyway... I really got a hang with this lotus flower opening and my pets also really love it. One kitty was shot be a bib-gun and has some munition left in the body. I never can touch her near that area but when i applied gradually the lotus flower move she looked surprised and let me do it the move... It must have felt healing for the being. She purred.

Heavenly Head Massage – Module 15 – Neck Towel Work

This method really has to be experienced a number of time, as giver and as receiver. It was easy to bend the ear and get them hot. Anyway, eventually I managed to avoid this dilemma as this does not feel good.

I managed it the following way. I knottet 2 soft long shawels together at both ends. One shawel remained at the neck area as supporting bilk, and the  other cradled the head. That worked, no ear enveloping :-). I could pull at the occiput, traction the area, and assist the movement the head to both sides without bending the earlobes. Overall this lesson was again wonderful to practice. I did make a knot at the end to hold on just for security. Moving the towel at the center of the neck by crossing over the body, moving the body forward and back, and turn sideways was also ok to practice. It was unusual to go about this move but also inspiring as we can do so much.

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I like your Lotus Flower Opening - it sounds great, and I am sure it feels that way too! Animals never lie when expressing if they like something or not.

You seem to have created an interesting new application of the towel method. There is no end to what can be done with some creativity.

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It has been a while since I was here due to the intensity of my own journey, all the traveling and changes. 

In my last post the number 15 should have been 16

Heavenly Head Massage – Module 17 – Neck Therapy

In regards if using a pillows - a lot of my clients are older and curved in the cervical area - so I happen to use a pillow a lot. The finger probing technique finding the tensed area was very effective. the circles with more and less pressure does make sense, and we covered that before in other  modalities. Circular motion with the fingertips or thumbs, using different fingers to vary the intensities, I loved applying that on my own face. The practicality of facial heavenly massage is that we can self-practice as well. I could find my own sensitive spots very easily. Again the heel of the hand supported by fingers (I learned to love this part of the hand as it appears softer). This lesson, inviting all the many ways to probe, looking for tightness, invites the flow of the ways (the Tao of the hands) of the hands and digits (which we learned here or knew from before) easily to enter. Slide up  - The long strikes sliding ab and down the face with the heal of the hand is so gentle - reminding me of the lomi work.

The deep work really is something new to be appreciated as I also never really focused on deep work on the face. I don't want to have favoritism in regards to any of your lessons as they are all well balanced and wonderful, but the deep work is very special to learn and know about as many people do have such tight jaws, for instance.

Heavenly Head Massage – Module 18 – The Bigger Picture

I loved the exercises as always and practiced along.... and I am into gentle exercising all day long really as these strengthening and stretching moves and openings manage certain daily pain so nicely. I have do deal with bad posture in my own family as some members are doing internet work for most of the day, more than 8 hours, although the working place is ergonomically just right, I have people who only like cardio exercises (biking) and not stretching. I can't change that habit if my family member does not want to change that. I sure have done a number of bodywork but een that is resisted.

I like how Roland Liebscher explains the same what you explained in a slightly different approach.

The video is similar to what you showed with a twist perhaps:

Neck and Shoulder

One of my favorite stretch is this one (in German but one gets some basic parts it anyway).

Neck and Shoulder Exercises

This was another indeed very heavenly class Shama. I took my time this time and that was good too. There is much to review but I am also interested in other classes. I think I will opt for the knee class as I need more input here having come across some complex issues in my praxis.

Thank you and see you one way or another one day in Thailand (even if in my heart). Your work is very dear to me.

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I watched the videos in your links. There sure are so many ways of doing bodywork and helping people, it is really amazing. We are blessed that there are so many people who have a passion for the healing arts.

You completed another course. Congratulations! I wish you much success and many happy clients. Smile

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