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Kar Yin Yeoh Complete Thai Massage Course Progress Notes
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Kar Yin Yeoh
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Hi Shama,

I have just finished watching Module 1 video. I have tried the techniques and tools that demonstrated by you in the video with my husband.

When I doing the compression technique on his quadriceps like you did, he feeling itchy and keep on laughing. When I did the rocking by putting hands on his hips, he feeling itchy too. I have make sure that I work with my body weight by leaning forward, not pressing. With good ergonomics and combine with the breath. Is it because I leaning too much forward? Then, I ask him to do the same compression technique on my quadriceps, and rocking on my hips, I feel itchy too.... Why is that so? Is it because our quadriceps muscles are more developed?   

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December 3, 2016 - 9:57 am
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Hi Kar Yin, welcome to the Complete Thai Massage certification program.

No, it is not normal to experience an itching sensation, and it has nothing to do with more developed quadriceps muscles. I have never heard of such a reaction either. Here is the thing. The first module is just an overview and an introduction. The techniques in there are only meant to demonstrate certain points. They are not meant to actually teach the technique correctly.

The actual training for the techniques begins in the next module. I suspect that you might not have done the compression technique quite right. So my suggestion is that you forget about this technique for the time being and start gradually and from the beginning with module two. Then you will learn all the techniques in detail and you will gradually build up the skills to do them correctly. 

It takes time to learn the right way to do techniques, and there are many elements that go into a technique besides the mechanical execution. I am pretty sure that later on in the course, when you get to the point of learning the quad technique, the itching issue will have been resolved by then. Smile

Also please take a moment and familiarize yourself with our certification check list to make sure that we are on the same wave length: 

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December 5, 2016 - 9:44 pm
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Firstly, I would like to apologize as I'm not good in English. It is not exactly feeling itchy, it is more like feeling sensitive.

I will now start learning from module 2 and let go about module 1 🙂

Thanks Shama!

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Your English is plenty good enough. There are quite a few course students here in the forum from all over the world, including from non-English speaking countries. We are not running grammar tests here! LaughLaugh

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Module 2

I have done the chi machine on my partner several times, each time I'm getting smoother and smoother by rocking my hip and his hip, his upper body and his whole body move. But the only thing is he feel discomfort on his left ankle, no pain. He can feel the bone is sliding in and out, a bit crack crack sound. Not really bone, if joint area. More like the ankle joint there a bit loose, not tighten. He said he had an accident while he was 16 years old, where a car has ran over his left foot. Is there any modification can be made? I try to stabilize his left foot for not moving, but I feel unbalance in my posture. 

I have a friend, her hips is not really align where her tailbone is sticking out as she has an accident many years back. When I did chi machine on her, she feels her tailbone friction with the ground. Can I still do chi machine on her?

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You can try holding the foot at the ankle instead of at the heel. If this doesn't feel right for you or for your partner, then you might need to skip this technique on him. You will see that not every technique in Thai Massage works on everyone. Once you get better at this, you could replace the Chi Machine on such persons with specific ankle techniques which will improve the condition of the ankle.

The general rule is that the techniques are not mandatory sequences, but options to choose from. It's similar to yoga. People with fused neck vertebrae would not be good candidates for a head stand, for example, or people with wrist injuries would not be able to do down dog.

Regarding your friend with the tail bone sticking out - if it bothers her and feels uncomfortable, then you should not do it. There are hundreds of techniques in Thai Massage, and the art is to choose the right technique for the right client. In order to be able to do that, you of course need to first learn them all. Smile

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Holding at the ankle instead of his heel is much more comfortable for my partner, he starts to enjoy it! It's not 1 size fits all as you said! I have tried Chi Machine on 2 of my students, the 1st student is a quite fit and muscular woman, at the beginning her upper body doesn't move at all, I told her to relax because she seems like engaging her upper body without realizing. The 2nd student also feeling her tailbone  friction with the ground, but after I slow down the motion and end the Chi Machine, she feel her body like sink into the ground and energy is rushing throughout the body.

After watching your video about the best mat for thai massage, I realize that the mat that I'm using is quite hard for my partners, and some partners feel their tailbone is friction with the ground. I think I should look for a softer mat 🙂

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A hard mat will definitely cause tailbone friction and is just not comfortable enough anyway. A softer mat might solve a lot of your issues! Just don't get a mat which is too soft. Then you get another set of problems from sinking in too much. Smile

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Module 3

I have been repeating this module for the pass few days with my partner. My partner's feet are quite big and long and I'm very tiny. I'm only 40kg and 152cm tall. At the very beginning, my hands seems like couldn't cover his feet and his legs are heavy. For the first few times I did on Module 3, I sweat a lot and I know I'm tensing my body. I'm so stiff! I always have to remind myself to use my body weight instead of certain part of the body. But my body just couldn't synchronize.

But gradually, I body started to get in track with the motions and my body seems I don't feel that hard and heavy already. From this Module, I learnt that I have to make myself ease and comfortable when providing the foot massage because what I have had in my the body, the energy will transfer to my partner. I know I have way to learn but I'm getting to aware and know more about my body.

Thank you ShamaLaugh

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With your light weight you definitely have to become an expert at working only with your body weight. Also there will be some techniques which you won't be able to do on much heavier persons. But the good news is that in Thai Massage you can be much more effective with your body weight than with most other bodywork modalities

Also you don't have to worry if there are some techniques which you can't do on certain persons. There are so many techniques in Thai Massage that you only need half or a third of them to do an excellent Thai Massage session. There are plenty of small and light Thai women who do exactly this with Thai Massage.

One of my wife's good friends has been a Thai Massage therapist for quite a few years, and she is tiny and weighs somewhere between 40 and 45 kg. However the clients liked her work and she was effective.

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December 20, 2016 - 11:23 am
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Module 4

Yes Shama, thank youLaugh

Really appreciate for your effort by making complicated things so easy to understand. I like the way you explaining the 8 way concept of foot massage. 

You always read my mind and clear my doubt on the next videoLaugh I have been doing smoother in this module, but sometimes I still forgot to use by body weight, especially using the thumbs circling top of the foot. I started to enjoy now 

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I have no doubt that you will get into the flow of it more and more. It just takes some time, some reprogramming of the body and the mind, to get used to it and for it to feel totally natural. Smile

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Module 5

Thank you so much for keep reminding that I don't have to do all the techniques that I have learnLaugh

Finally I get to learn the butterfly technique on quadriceps! Remember that I told you that my partner feeling sensitive when I work on his quadriceps when I start on Module 1? Now he feel no more sensitive when I apply this butterfly technique. He is much more relax and enjoy! 

Squeeze and roll on the calf and thigh, when work until the end, I feeling numbness in my thumbsCry And my fingers are tired. What would you suggest, how many rounds to work on the client for this squeeze and roll on the calf and thigh muscles?

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I guess that means that your touch has become better and softer. Sounds like progress to me.

If you feel numbness in your thumbs and your fingers are hurting, then you are working with muscle power instead of with body weight and your entire body.

First, your thumbs, hand and fingers need to be wrapped around the muscle completely so that your hand is totally supported.

Second, you need to generate the power for the technique from your entire body and your body weight instead of generating the power just from your fingers, which will tire them out quickly as you are finding out.

Third, you need to make sure that your wrist is loose and relaxed. The movement should look and feel like a flowing wave. If your wrist is locked up, your hand will be under tension. Then you block the energy flow in your own body and your fingers will hurt.

Fourth, if you got the first three points right, then you need to make sure that you don't overwork your hands. That's why there are many alternatives in this course to use forearms or even knees and feet to replace the hands for certain techniques. You will learn  these alternatives very soon.

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Thank you Shama for the tips! It took me a while to feel and work with the 4 tips at once. It really took me a lot of effort to become a little effortlessness like you didSurprised

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That was funny - "it took you a lot of effort to become a little effortless". I am glad you have a sense of humor. Smile

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Module 6

Overall I can't believe that I can pick up this module very quickly and easily?! This module is sooo much easier to me. I can feel the softness and the " sinking in ", and my partner feeling very comfortable.. Just that I feel a bit challenge when finding and working on the lower edge of the adductor. Using elephant walk when working on calf muscles is a lot easier compare using the fingers! Cool

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The beginning is always the hardest. The more you get into the course, the more it will all feel familiar to you. Once you have a good understanding of the basic concepts, you will find that you can apply them on pretty much everything in the course. So the learning curve will get a little flatter! Smile

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Module 7

In the video, you have mentioned that the model's right hip has the biggest restriction to the outward movement by evaluating on her hip condition. So in her case you have done few stretching to her right hip. Should I apply the same stretching to the left side as well? In normal condition, I know we should do both sides. But what about her case?

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You should work on both legs or hips. However when you notice that one side is more restricted than the other, then you should spend more time on the side that needs it most.

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