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July 16, 2014 - 10:45 pm
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I really love this course, but feel I have missed

 Something along the way so, I’m going back to the beginning and watch them again. My  clients love this type of work. I have been able to implement it into my normal routine an was able to modify my body to greatly benefit my clients.  

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Hi Julie, welcome to our forum. Please take a moment to familiarize yourself with the following check list for our certification program:
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Many students have told me that they picked up lots of things they had missed the first time around when watching the videos. So it is quite essential to watch the videos more than once. The more your skills grow, the more more you will see things that you hadn’t seen before in the videos.

As you said, the rocking techniques can be incorporated into almost any kind of massage. They are not limited to strictly Thai Massage.

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Module 1

OK, so today I started all over with watching module 1. Here is what I have learned so far… My clients feel more relaxed than before, they tell me the rocking helps them to clear the mind and focus better. They like that they can get a deep work to the muscles without feeling bruised after the session. I am learning to do the massage from a chair position. The clients say it makes them feel more comfortable being beside bed rather than over them. I am still learning to let the natural rythum of the body flowww.

The arm swinging works really well for my athletic clients. Most are extremely tight from rigourous workout schedules an have scars/adhesions from training,the arm swing seems to frr up tight spaces in body allowing for more movement in shoulder area. I use circle rock on it band on legs, and wiggle on hip flexors. The fast rock is used on hams an lymphtic areas on back of legs, this helps reduce swelling in calves an ankles.

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July 18, 2014 - 1:34 pm
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You nailed it on the head when you said “they can get a deep work to the muscles without feeling bruised after the session”. That’s one of the big advantages of this system!

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OK today just finished module 2. I have applied  foot technique to one of other therapist at work. I lowered my bed to hip level in sitting position, I get really good traction without over working me or the client.

 

My clients like the tractioning because they sit a lot in their work. They tell me  the pulling releases the lower back, they feel the pull in their QL’s.

I like the visual on the feet.I can mentally assess  my client quickly an figure out treatment plan that will best suit an individuals needs. Sometimes if client is heavy you can’t see hip bones,I like that you can use feet as indicators.

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Just finished module3. I had to rewatch some parts over to understand the idea being taught. I really like the use of the lines on the Quads an adductor muscles it helps me really define my work. In other words I want to know every part of the muscle is being worked. Most of the people I work on are extremely tight on the Quads an the It band is very tender to the touch for them. I think this type of treatment will be beneficial for them.

My question is, can you work this hip joint on a male in a different way, so it does not cause excitement of genital area? In the other video you showed how to work the sides on a male, while working near the hip bones on a female. Would this apply as well?

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There are many ways to work on the hip joint as you will see later on in the course. Since there is a lot of movement and manipulation in Thai Massage, it can happen that there will be some movement in the male genital. However in most cases this is not excitement but a normal physiological reaction. Here in Thailand the female therapists totally disregard this, unless it is accompanied by inappropriate behavior.

Many men wake up in the morning with a full erection which has nothing to do with sexual excitement. Even a full bladder can cause the genital to swell. Massage can induce such a reaction as well, even if you don’t come anywhere near the genital. 

You should certainly avoid working too close to the genitals, but in massage therapy in general, not just in Thai Massage, it can and does happen that there will be involuntary movement in a man’s genital. Often they are quite embarrassed about it. So you cannot totally eliminate such reactions since this is just how a man’s body functions. However most of such involuntary movements during massage therapy are not the result of sexual excitement.

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Today I finished up module 4. I really like the way you explain the positioning of the hands. It has given me a better understanding of how important the positioning of the hands are an how thine effects the body movements.

I do not feel over tired when I use this on bigger clients,such as athletes.I can see it in there faces when the joint releases using these techniques.

I have also been telling my clients to relax their muscles as I work with them.they tell me it has made them more aware of the tightness in the muscle. I explain we are trying to re-establish muscle control in the muscle. I also tell them why it is important for the muscle to do the work.

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July 31, 2014 - 12:21 am
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That’s one of the big advantages of the Thai Rocking Massage system – it does not tire you if done correctly since it all flows without any big effort. That’s how it’s supposed to feel for both you and the client.

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Just finished up module 5. This was a bit more challenging for me but I enjoyed it. Usually I am the one doing the techniques, but this time I got to be the one experiencing the technique. The stretches were great! Being able to experience it on myself allowed me to see an feel what the client is experiencing, it took my understanding to more compassionate level.

When i was using the techniques for rocking the knee an hip,I cold see on clients face when tight areas released,it was amazing.

I was using you technique on my partner, I showed both ways that you demonstrated the technique, both of us are learning so much from this.we also look for ways to modify techniques while client is on table.

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July 31, 2014 - 10:59 pm
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The techniques are not difficult to master. I like that the techniques are readily available for use with clients.

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July 31, 2014 - 11:46 pm
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The rocking techniques are quite easy to adapt to the table for the most part.

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Today I finished up module 6. I had to watch a couple of times but then it clicked for me.

I am going to try an implement these rocking techniques as part of the normal routine. I feel with what I learned today, this will give my clients a wonderful session,very thorough. I like that I can readily apply this type of work to sessions.

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Yes, those techniques are not a system in themselves (although they could be if you wanted to). You can apply them to Thai Massage or any other kind of massage modality.

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Today completed module 7. I enjoyed the concept of rocking,especially the above rocking. My question is could you incorporate a type of foam wedge, for plus size clients to use on the table an still have similar effect? Could this be used to help them release pressure off of lower back, while stretching?

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 I completed module 8. I used these techniques with training partner. The. Results were positively amazing. I especially liked the shoulder role.

The rib cage rock will take a little adjusting to get my technique just right.

Rocking the abdomen was successful, once we understood the flow of the wrist.I don’t think it will be to difficult for me.

I liked the body stretch at beginning of module 8, but found it a little difficult, so we are going to keep working in this area

 

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Regarding the plus sized clients and the foam wedge on a table – I have personally never tried this. However the larger the client, the less you will be able to move them into positions which require lifting the body or body parts.

There is always a point where we have to consider our well being and longevity as therapists versus trying to do everything for a client who is hard to move around. When I had rather obese or large clients, I just cut out movements which would be stressful for my body. So that’s a judgment call on a case by case basis. Just remember to recognize your limitations and make sure to preserver your own health when working on large clients. If it feels stressful or like a struggle to you, don’t do it.

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Just finish module nine (9). 

I was really impressed to see how everything came together as a whole. I have been using several different of the modalities in different sequence, a lot of my clients really like the arm work. I don’t have to work as hard and by using circular rocking motion, rather than linear motion my clients are more relaxed.

 Some of my other client, really like the upper shoulder arm work.most of my clients are not used to Thai style massages, they are only used to Western type massages, this makes a nice change for my clients, and also sets me apart from other therapists.I absolutely love this type of bodywork.

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I absolutely love this type of bodywork.” – That makes two of us! Laugh

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Finished up module 10. I cant get over how easy sacrum work is. My clients love it. I spent 30 min on sacrum work alone. You would have thought I treated the whole body, just the release alone from the work on the sacrum had my client excited. I am so glad that I found your site.  I will have to continue to work on my hand movements.  For me it does take a little  more of concentration working on the back.

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