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Module 1.

 

Module 1 was a nice introduction to some of the different body positions or ergonomics which I can see will be vital in properly administering thai massage. I tried out some of the dr. set ups, particularly the single knee with the toes curled will be challenging for me. I can feel the weakness or tightness in my toes. I am excited to see the improvements of my flexibility and strength in these positions as the course continues. Im a big believer in the breath, so it is easy to follow the breathing concept mentioned in this module. When I practice I try to sync with whomever, I am working on and, I agree the breath is a great foundation. Body position is so important in being a chiropractor, you have to have great body position to make a quality adjustment. I see the parallel in thai massage for example the palm pressing on the thigh straddling the patients leg vs being on their side is totally different. when I did the palm pressing straddling the leg I felt so much more control lining up my body correctly.

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Module 2.

 

I like how Shama talked about not following in the traditional path of thai massage, but rather making it better, or your own. I had a teacher a few years back that taught me dry needling. He told me that he gave me the tools, the foundation, now go make it your own with everything else you know. I think this type of thinking is very forward thinking.

I recently was in Beijing, China and had the opportunity to meet some Qi Gong masters. I was taught one of the meditation techniques to harness the Qi. It has been very beneficial in my practice personally and professionally. I am ecstatic to learn Shama’s Chi Machine technique, which he learned from a Qi Gong master. When I practiced this technique it was challenging for me. I am pretty inflexible, I got a ways to go, but I can see where this will become easier to perform and be so beneficial to the patient.

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Hi Clint, welcome to our forum and to the Complete Thai Massage certification program. As you noted, I added features to my style of Thai Massage which I find beneficial, like the breathing from yoga and the energy/hara awareness from Qi Gong. You will find even more innovative features like the rocking elements which are hugely effective and popular among our students.

As a chiropractor it will be easy for you to appreciate the subtleties of good ergonomics which can make all the difference between a clumsy mechanical technique and an effective, excellent technique.

There are several exercises coming up in this course which will help you with your flexibility.

Also please take a moment and familiarize yourself with our certification check list to make sure that it is all correctly organized:

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I am looking forward to assisting you in adding excellent and effective Thai Massage to your professional repertoire.

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Thanks so much Shama, for welcoming me!! I am so excited to learn and further myself. So far So good. Thank you.Smile

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Module 3

 

I was excited to practice the several different foot massage techniques in this module. I have a question the first move you show, where we sit in-between their legs and bring the feet lateral as you state, Is it more of a lateral stretch on the foot or are you allowing the foot to supinate. I know the next move is about circumduction, and supination so just trying to figure out if the first move shown is just lateral stretch of the foot.

 

I’ve practiced the routine several times on my son, and he told me that it feels real good. I feel fairly confident in all the moves, like you say the more you do it the more it becomes second nature. What I am trying to concentrate on is the transition from one move to the next and keep the flow of energy and sync between me and my (son) or patient.

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The purpose of this stretch is just a lateral move. There is no supination intended. As you mentioned, the supination happens in the circular move that follows.

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Module 4:

I’ve been applying the foot routine, and now have been able to put all the moves together to make a nice flow. The 8 ways to work the feet is a very logical and easy way to work the foot, and everyone that I have done it on expresses a lot of gratification.

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Welcome back! Good to hear about your positive feedback. Smile

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Thanks Shama,

Couldn’t have gotten this feedback, without your teaching. Much gratitude. 

 

Module 5:

In module 5 Shama talks about feeling the patient out and not mechanically following the techniques, but rather focus on the patient, and what that patient needs. I have found this true, and have gravitated to treating people in a manner that suits them the best. I think the breathing out when leaning in is good and breathing in when leaning out, helps keep a good cadence with the elephant walk and butterfly moves.

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With your background and experience Thai Massage should be easy to incorporate, I imagine.

You will see that throughout this course I always stress creativity over mechanical sequences, adaptation over “following the book”. People don’t get better if they are squeezed into a one-size-fits-all system, which is unfortunately how Thai Massage is often done.

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Module 6:

I learned how to add in a rocking move and to use my forearms in this module. It has been great amongst the clients I have used it on. The rocking move seems to really loosen and relax people. My clients really have enjoyed me incorporating working on the foot and calf at the same time like shown in this module with the elephant walk on the calf and foot.

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Rocking moves are something which you will learn a lot more of in this course. They are a staple of my style of Thai Massage. Smile

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Module 7:

It is nice to incorporate the Thai evaluation for the hip by looking at the feet along with what I’ve learned through chiropractic school, I feel my evaluation on the hip is that much better. Additionally, learning the feet hip walk stretch has allowed me to get into some of my bigger clients and release their hamstrings/adductors.  I really like this move and have had great feedback.

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To be honest, the hip evaluation is not something that is part of traditional Thai Massage. This is something I came up with by myself, just by observing clients and feeling where things don’t move right. There are quite a few elements in this course which go beyond what you learn in traditional Thai Massage.

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Shama, 

I appreciate the way you have taught this class. I enjoy all the info that you supply us with.

 

Module 8:

Stretching the Hip thinking about the different slices of pie really helps me conceptually think how I am stretching my client. Rocking the leg in internal rotation has helped loosen up people’s hips, I really like this move, along with the other rocking moves and circular internal rotation moves. Clients have expressed, a great release and increased ROM in the hip. 

Shama, I see you teach a rocking class, does this class show all the same moves in the complete thai massage package or is it different?

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The rocking class goes much more into depth with rocking techniques. There is some overlap between the two courses, i.e. the Complete Thai Massage course does contain quite a few rocking moves as well, but the rocking course takes it a lot further.

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Module 9:

I really like the powerful hamstring stretch; I use this one a lot with my clients, and have gotten great feedback.   This along with the other hip stretches, and rocking moves really seems to allow people to increase their hip ROM. The twist in the low back Is wonderful. So many clients rave about this stretch. One key in this module that I absorbed, is understanding the difference between a power move and a gentle move, and being able to combine the two, depending on the client and what the client wants and needs.

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Increasing ROM is the strength of Thai Massage with all those stretches. That’s why I like to call Thai Massage a three-dimensional system, versus most other massage styles where the client is not moved and is just lying flat on the table. Smile

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Module 10:

This module Shama, slows things down and talks about the importance of the meaning behind what we are doing. I really like this. Every patient or individual is different. The way I treat each individual will be different depending on how there body presents itself, or how that individual expresses what they want. What I can take pride in is that I connect to their “hara” or their energy and do the best to be present with them in this brief interaction to create positive change. I have been able to utilize all of these hip/adductor/hamstring/Calf stretches with all my clients and they have never felt better, excited for next module.

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Wow, this is really good news – so happy to hear that! Smile

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