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January 11, 2014 - 3:15 am
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If you just lean forward with your body weight and maybe lift your upper body up a little, you should be able to stretch anyone's hamstrings to the max with the "leg over shoulder" stretch. You can get more power by moving your knee back a little (move further away) or if necessary even stand up if you are small and your partner has long legs.

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Standing up ! Why didnt I think of that. I will try that tonight for sure, my knees got very sore trying to lean into his legs even when they were over my shoulder so I think this idea will help a lot : ) thanks Shama

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Module 11

This module was great to see everything put together in a flowing sequence. I was trying to follow along but it was going too fast, l had to pause it for a bit then play again. My flow was a bit awkward for my first try but my knee didn't bother me as much. On the second leg I tried doing it by myself remembering the concepts. I did forget some moves but went back to them as I remembered and just continued on.

I added a few warmup moves because my husbands legs are very tight at first. I am learning how to configure myself in a move so I can get the best stretch in while being comfortable myself.  I do have a bad knee from a running injury but like I said it felt fine after this session so I think im getting the hang of it. For the hamstring stretch I used the technique where I am on the side of the client and use my shoulder to lean into it, the one right after the rocking of the hip, it was effective and comfortable for me as well.

 

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January 14, 2014 - 8:44 pm
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The summary modules seem to be everyone's favorites. There are a few more of those coming up.

I am glad that your knee is holding up and that you are feeling comfortable with the techniques. Smile

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module 12

I have to say, Thai massage is truly amazing!

When I started practicing on my husband he needed a pillow under his knee for support, now his knee can go right to the floor and we have not used a pillow in over a week. This video showed us some new areas to work on though. 

Some of moves were very comfortable for me and him, like the circling of knees, I found that one easy. The leg stretch and swing at the end were really great and a nice way to end the leg and hip stretches.

The one technique where I step through his legs and lean forward was at times awkward as his legs almost pulled me right back onto my butt a few times. I am going to try these on my younger son and see how it goes with him, it'll give me an idea of the techniques I can use on different body sizes.

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January 17, 2014 - 11:23 pm
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Well, we definitely agree on this one: Thai Massage is truly amazing - you took the words out of my mouth! Laugh

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module 13

 

I found the 1 to 10 method really helped me to determine my clients level of comfort. 

I practiced  the whole routine from the feet to hips without the video or notes and just put on some reiki/yoga music and used the concepts of the pie. I was able to remember the moves and get a nice flow going as well.  I felt relaxed and just moved with the music.  It helped when you said it should be like a dance,  at times I had to think of what to do next or where to put my feet /legs but I don't think it was noticeable to him.  I am pretty sure I missed some of the hip stretches but not many.  I will review the video to check.  It's nice we can do that. I never get sore anymore so my techniques must be getting better. 

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January 21, 2014 - 1:57 am
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That's a great report, and especially since you are still in the early phase of the course. Sounds like you will be really good at this!

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  module 14

The rocking techniques are really enjoyable to the client. I did have some trouble with getting his hips up that high on the pull/push and the pull and lean but he still enjoyed the whole sequence. 

The transition from one side to another is a great technique, I found it much easier than the other way I was doing it before.  With a reiki session or an aroma therapy massage I am very careful to never lose contact with the client  as well. 

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There are some simple secrets how to make a massage session feel better. Maintaining body contact is one of them, and I am always surprised how many therapists are not aware of this, especially here in Thailand. Maybe one reason is that in order to maintain body contact you really need to have some good transitioning techniques, and this is practically never taught in Thai Massage schools.

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module 15

All of us have a stomach flu right now so pradticing the abdominal techniques proved to be too painful, I'll have to go back to it at a later time.  

The other techniques were fairly easy to learn and were enjoyable. After all the leg techniques it was nice to have an easy lesson lol.

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January 26, 2014 - 10:08 pm
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Sorry to hear about the stomach flu. I hope you will all get better quickly.

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I practiced on my oldest son today and started with module 15. ( his stomach is fine today) . He seemed to enjoy it and was relaxed. 

The reason I practiced o  my son is because he has a very sore shoulder from his workout schedule and he injured his shoulder. I wanted feedback from someone who needs shoulder work. He said it all felt really good but the foot in shoulder one was painful  in a good way and wanted me to keep doing that move for a while longer, at first I wasnt sure how much pressure to use but with his feedback we got it right. The move with the hand on the floor behind shoulder he was able to take a much deeper stretch and I was able to move his hand back. 

All in alll this was a great lesson , of course I need to work on my technique and transition more smoothly from move to move.

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January 27, 2014 - 10:43 am
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That's the way to do it - get lots of feedback and adjust it until it feels right. By the way there is a lot of shoulder work coming up later in the course. That should be really beneficial for your son.

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module 17

Im happy to hear that there is more shoulder work coming up and look forward to that.

I told my husband about this module with arm and hand work and he was so anxious for it to arrive lol, he is an arm wrestler so his arms always need work. He found the elephant walk up and down his arm to be really beneficial and this morning his arms feel better. 

I was having a bit of a struggle with the hand massage, my hands got sore and I had to take a break but with more practice im sure I'll build that up, the techniques were easy enough , just his hands are so much bigger than mine and very stiff. 

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Well, your hands might build up more strength, however if someone's hands are much bigger than yours, what I do is use my knees and elbows. If done right, this feels very good. If you ever want to delve deeper into arm and hand massage and learn many more variations, I have created a special course just about this part of the body. 

Your first concern should always be to preserve your own body. If it feels stressful, then either you are not using enough leverage, or the size and weight difference between therapist and client is too big. My favorite choice is generally to use a body part other than my hands if I am working on a large client.

Why don't you try using your knee on the palm of the hand. Sit back on your heels and gently rock back and forth between the knee that is on the ground and the one which is placed on the palm of your partner. Then roll the knee slowly back and forth a bit or do a circular motion with it. Ask your husband for feedback and see if you can make this feel good and effective.

Try rolling back and forth over the inside of the palm at a right angle to the hand. Don't touch the fingers, just the soft part of the palm. Let me know how it works out.

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Thanks Shama for the tips, they worked great...so much easier. He was able to take all the weight I could put on his hand and he said it felt very good. I am planning on taking more of the courses after I'm done with this one for sure, I have a few I want to take.

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The transition moves above the head are wonderful, I like how it doesn't look like you want to get to the other side.

The shoulder stretches were not possible on my husband, he was too heavy and reaching across his body was too difficult, even the one leaning over him and doing the circles on both sides at the same time was hard. I tried it on my 11 yr old son, he is a bit bigger than me but it went much easier, its looks so enjoyable. 

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Doing shoulder work on a large person again requires a different approach. In such a case it is best to not do big stretches, but work on the shoulders with forearms and knees. There is more shoulder work coming up, and then I have an entire course just about shoulder work. It all depends how deep you want to go down the rabbit hole. Smile

In Thai Massage learning never really stops. There are always new and different and more effective things to do and new variations to apply. I have been doing this for 15 years, and I am still coming up with new approaches all the time. There is never a point where you can say "Now I know it all, there is nothing left to learn". That's what keeps it fresh and interesting.

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module 19

I practiced this a few times and felt the flow of movement getting smoother, I really loved your explanation of the energy focus, it reminds me of reiki and in fact my son asked me if I had used reiki while doing this module, he said he felt the energy flow.

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You have a very perceptive son, it seems. How old is he?

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