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Jennifer Flament-Banowetz Thai Back Massage Course Progress Notes
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Module 1

This module focused on various ways to assess structural integrity.  I have used these techniques with 3 clients and I will share my notes below:

Client A:  17 year old female.  Client shows some Lordosis in lower lumber spine.  This was confirmed when I was able to place my hand under her lower back while in a supine position.   It was also noted that her right shoulder and hip were higher than the left. This indicates some spinal twisting/ rotation. When I ran my fingers down the lamina grooves of her vertebral column, I noticed a slight curvature to the L, indicating some Scoliosis.  I assessed her chin, head, chest, and hip levels while in supine position – and everything looked balanced.

Client B:  15 year old male.  Client showed more exaggerated Lordosis in the lumber spine than client A. I confirmed this by easily sliding my hand under his lower back.  The anterior tilting of his hips was more pronounced than on client A.   Both his left shoulder and hip were higher than his right.  He also had a slight curvature to the right when checking for Scoliosis.  His chin, head, chest, and hip levels looked balanced and equal.

Client C:  49 year old male.  Client did not display any obvious Lordosis or Kyphosis.  I was barely able to slide my hand under his lower back – but was still able to.   Both  of his shoulders and hips were equal heights.  His overall level of chin, head, chest, and hip levels looked balanced.

Conclusion:  I felt this was an interesting process of assessing structural integrity.  I plan to add this in to my “check-ins” with all of my clients (traditional table and thai). 

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~Jennifer

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Welcome back, Jennifer. You certainly jumped right in using the information of the first module. Doesn't it feel great to have a simple method of very quickly recognizing what potential issues a client may have! We don't use xrays or other fancy diagnostics, but we can still get a pretty good idea about our clients by just looking at them.

I have heard from many therapists that it had previously never occurred to them to look at their clients in this way. It is like getting new eyes. Smile

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Module 2

Question:  In the past courses I have taken with you, a pdf was provided to print. Is that still available for courses?  I have read through the course manual and did not notice that option -but maybe I missed it?  I live in a very rural/ wild area with very spotty internet connection- and I will say that I  have found the past pdf's very helpful to be able to print, and refer to while practicing - especially with the photos included in it.  If it is not available, I will take the best notes I can....

This module was very informative!  I took a lot of notes.  I feel like this gives me greater clarification of what is possible with Thai Massage - specifically:  what my expectations for myself are, and what expectations may or may not be appropriate from the client's perspective.   I appreciate the emphasis on that we are not "miracle workers" - but can be very beneficial in a myriad of ways.  

I am glad that you expanded on discussing how thai massage can change cellular memory. This is what attracts me to bodywork  - working on multiple levels at the same time....

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~Jennifer

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We are planning on adding those pdf's to all our courses ultimately. The only thing is that this is a huge amount of work to transcribe, edit, select pictures and put it all together. It will happen, but I cannot tell you a specific date by when it will be ready.

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MODULE 3

A lot of this module resembles elements discussed in the Complete Thai Course.  Nevertheless,  there are always points that I find interesting - and will note those below:

        -I enjoyed hearing how yoga was emphasized as a way to strengthen muscles and how it compliments Thai Massage.  Over the years I have done "some" yoga - trying out different styles.   At this stage of my life,  I feel drawn to doing yoga more and more - and use it as a tool to strengthen, but also soften fascial tissues, and open up energy lines when I am not receiving bodywork myself. I love it!!   

        -Great review of the importance of always warming up and softening tissues first before adding in stretches!

        -One of the things I love most about your courses Shama - is your holistic perspective! I observe your work as passing on traditional elements of Thai Massage, but also transcending/ tweaking them if it is not in the best interest of the therapist. I appreciate that!

        -I found it helpful to review the importance of using the biggest body part possible for massage in order to preserve the therapist's own body.  I have worked on a fair number of other massage therapists (who primarily work on the table) and have noticed patterns of injury and chronic pain due to the way they use their bodies during massages.  Fortunately, I have been fine - after 14 years of mostly table work - but am loving adding in Thai for diversity in how I use my body. 

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~Jennifer

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Thanks Jennifer. I think you are spot-on with your description of how I am teaching Thai Massage. Smile

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Module 4

Even though the contents of this module are a review from the Complete Thai course, I am looking at this with fresh eyes and always wanting to learn more!   I have incorporated and use the techniques described in this module when I do Thai sessions on the mat.  I really like it for warming up the errector spinae muscle group.  With this course, I have decided to try to add as many of the techniques into my "table massage" sessions. The first thing I noticed is that I needed to reduce my table height.  I have practiced these on all of my table clients this week.   The technique where the heels of the hand compress and move parallel to the spine feels the most uncomfortable for me though.  It feels like I am rolling on the muscle group and not able to sink into it very much. I suspect this is for 2 reasons:  1.  my table has been too high, and the angle of my arms is not enough (less than the recommended 45 degrees), and 2. perhaps the errector spinae group needs to be warmed up more with the other techniques first to soften the tissue prior to the work.    The type of clients that I had the easiest time working with had thicker dermis and muscle development vs. very thin and boney clients. All good and part of the learning process:)  Thank you Shama!

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Some of the material you will know from the Complete Thai Massage course, but there is also lots of new material in the course coming up.

You are right, if the table is too high, you can't make good use of your body weight. Play with your table height until you can use your body weight effectively without straining your back.

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Module 5

I have been practicing the techniques described in the module for the past 2 weeks on a variety of my clients, adding them in.   Everyone likes the rocking motion and they find them very, very relaxing. I love the rocking motion for warming up the body and being gentle on my body parts.  I am feeling more confident as to understand what techniques are better suited for smaller vs. larger clients.   The thumb work quickly identifies specific areas....these I have been working more - mostly with pausing and adding compression as the muscle knot melts.  I have been focusing on trying to keep all of my motions on and transitions around the body smooth and fluid. 

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~Jennifer 

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Module 6

I have been focusing on learning each of these techniques, and then transitioning to another, then another, then another etc.     I like the variety, and feel that this is by far, the most comprehensive sacrum work I have learned.  My clients are liking it, especially the increase in rocking.   I do find that I need to be cautious about my elbow being too "pokey" when working on thinner/ smaller clients. I like the variety of being more general (with the palm circling and rolling  with heel of hand), and then getting more and more specific with the thumbs, and pausing while the trigger points melt.   I really like using my body parts in more ways.  My goal is for smoother and smoother transitions....

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Yes, elbow work on small and thin clients is often not such a good idea. In such cases it is better to do more hand work.

I am glad to hear that you like the sacrum work, which is often skipped or neglected in massage, including in Thai Massage. I had decided a long time ago that I would not skip any areas of the body so that I could provide a really complete session with plenty of therapeutic options. 

The areas that are often skipped over or neglected are sacrum, abdomen, chest, and glutes. All these areas are covered in our courses in great detail.

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Module 7

I am again enjoying learning and working with the rocking techniques....and my clients are enjoying them too.   I am also specifically enjoying adding in the forearm techniques.  Thumbing is great for specific spots, though while I am there - I have been just using different edges of my elbow. My clients really like the "rocking on lower back" technique.  I think it is the rhythm that is extra relaxing.     I have also been increasing the variety of people I have been practicing/ working on.  

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Between the rocking and the hands-free forearm and elbow techniques you can do so much good back work without wearing out your hands. I can't even imagine how anyone could do an effective back therapy session on a large client only with their hands, like in table oil massage. That must be so hard on the therapist!

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Module 8

I have been working on this module also for the past few days even though I just posted recently.  

Shama- you made a comment about yoga earlier in this class that I listened to.  I have been doing yoga every day for the past 3 1/2 weeks - and already I feel a difference in my core muscles.  I feel like this is making me a better therapist... increasing my internal strength, balance etc.  

I am liking working with my knees...and my sensitivity is increasing.   I am finding the double knee rocking a bit challenging though - especially moving to different spots around the glutes....I need more practice with this one.  

Otherwise, the feedback is good!  Clients like the broad surface of the knee.  

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I know - once you get into a yoga routine, you feel like a new person! Smile  You feel so much more at ease moving around in all the Thai Massage positions.

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Module 9

This module focused on 4 main techniques.   I have been practicing them all in a variety of ways on different size clients. 

 All of my clients enjoy the Palm Rocking on near side of back.  Working at the 90 degree angle is preferred to the 45 degree angle work.  I was focusing on using soft hands sinking and in with each compression.  

I practiced Palm Rocking on Far side of Back and asked for feedback on which of the rhythms my clients liked the best.  The overall consensus was preference for the 1,1 and 1, 2 -1,2 beats versus the 3.  

For the last 2 forearm techniques I found more of a natural rhythm when I did a combination of roll/twist/circle movement using my whole body.  

I really like all of these techniques ☺️

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By all means, make it your own and adapt it so that it works best for you. Smile

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Module 10

Elbow work....good stuff! (Actually, it is all good☺️).    I have been practicing these with my table clients.  This requires me to be conscious of my back and posture, lots of lunging with a low table.  

I was once told in massage school many years ago that even though our elbows have significantly fewer nerve endings in them compared to our finger tips - we all have the capacity to develop just as much sensitivity there....it just takes practice. This also applies to any and all other body parts

 I am feeling comfortable with the use of my elbows in the various techniques discussed in this module. 

My clients especially like the fingertip wiggles in the lamina grooves of the spine.   

All good☺️.   Thank you Shama!!

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That must have been a good massage school. I am not so sure that you can get the same sensitivity in your elbows as in your fingers, but it will be close enough and good enough with practice.

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Module 11

I have been integrating these techniques into my sessions.   My clients like the knuckle work a lot....alternating between the rocking, circling, crissfiber,  etc.  I felt that the forearm circling and rolling was also very effective.  My clients liked the smooth, broad surface of the forearms (I asked for a lot of feedback 😁).  

I did have to modify the forearm leaning in the groove 1&2.  My client has had prior injury to one of his shoulders and it caused pain when I tried to slide my knee under their bended forearm.  I modified this my placing a slim pillow up their shoulder and arm to provide support....and then scooted down and was still able to lean in, moving my whole body 

My clients like the lamina groove work!

Percussion is always great☺️

Thank you!!

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