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Ivanna Khorramshahgol
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Module 1

Given my Yoga and Reiki training I was overjoyed to see how this course complements with my line of work! The most fascinating part was to learn of the ‘Heavenly Touch’ concept which I think is a key component when working with others. The connection of the Breath is also an amazing and very important component to the practice. We all tend to overlook the importance of maintaining awareness of your breath! We take it for granted! Regarding the breath I have a question: is the exhalation through the mouse or the nose or is not relevant which one we use? As I practiced with my partner which happens to be my husband I tried exhaling through the mouth one time and switching to the nose the next time. Perhaps it was just me but I did feel more at ease exhaling through the mouth. 

Another question is: what are your thoughts on using essential oils during a session? I don’t necessarily mean on the clients body but in a diffuser in the room. 

I was very excited to be working with my husband and practicing with him because it was easier to get a feedback. He communicated at all times letting me how pressure was and what felt more comfortable for him for instance he preferred not to have a pillow under his head. I noticed that in Module 1 the client had a pillow but in Module 2 the client did not. Is there a reason for this? 

Thanks in advance for any feedback I may get! 🙏🏻

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Hi Ivanna, welcome to our community and the Complete Thai Massage certification program. Before I answer your questions, let’s first get your thread set up correctly. Please watch the video on our certification tutorial page:

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Now to your questions: It doesn’t matter if you exhale through your nose or mouth – whatever you feel most comfortable with.

Personally I like to have the smell of essential oils in the room. I would make sure to keep it subtle since you never know how people react to smells.

I normally ask clients if they would like to have a pillow under the head. I can also determine this by looking at their posture in the standing position. If their back is straight and their shoulders are not rolled forward, and their head is not tilted forward, then a pillow is probably not necessary for the supine position. However a pillow is always required for the side and prone positions.

If I see someone lying face-up, and their chin is tilted up, then I know they need pillow support. So there are anatomical clues which are quite easy to tell. In general I let the client decide what makes them most comfortable.

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Module 2

I totally agree with the idea that mindset and/or intention is the main component when working with the body and energy! I also like what I’d call the four principles that you mentioned:

1) Right Mindset

2)Right Body Posture

3) Right Attitude 

4) Right Breathing

I’d also like to mention that I appreciate your innovative way of combining different techniques for a holistic healing. In the case of the Chi Machine I was surprised to learn that it comes from Qigong, something that I’ve been studying on my own lately! 

I can see how this technique will requiere practice with different partners so that I can get a better sense of how different body types feel in creating the ‘wave’ movement in the whole body. The first time I practiced it felt very mechanical, I was very ‘technical’ about it. That’s when I realized that I needed to make a connection from my body movement to my partner’s body movement. In other words, creating a continuum of movement as if our bodies were one.

Questions: 

1) You mentioned that the Chi Machine is your opening move. I believe it would be a great move for someone with low energy, depression or fatigue. But how about for someone with anxiety? 

2) I teach personal Yoga Classes (one on one) and I like to provide more than just a series of postures so sometimes I use sound healing or a short guided relaxation/meditation. How can I incorporate the ChiMachine?

Thanks for all of your help! 🙏🏻

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“…as if our bodies were one.”  That’s the feeling you want to generate, and there will be quite a few lessons in this course which show you exactly how to do this.

The Chi Machine can be used for all those cases that you mentioned, including anxiety. The big advantage of it is that it’s very hard for the client to resist it, as can be done with linear stretches. The Chi Machine falls into the category of ‘rocking techniques’, and you will see a lot more of those in this course.

The Chi Machine is not a cure in itself, of course, but along with other rocking techniques, is an excellent therapeutic tool. I think you will need to give it some time until you progress further into the course, and then you will see the ‘bigger picture’ of it all, and you will see how it all fits together. Smile 

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Module #3

Foot Massage!!!!! What a treat was this video!!!!!! And the notes! Amazing job, well done! 👏🏻

I love this idea of moving the hands in a sequence it’s very thorough for the client and very meditative for the therapist! I feel that it’s exactly what you said the in the introduction video; Thai massage is a well coreopraghed dance!!! 

I practiced all the techniques on my husband first and he fell asleep!!!! He said it was so relaxing and soothing that he just slept! I later practiced the stretching the feet out technique after my yoga class which is with weights! I applied the technique right before Savasana and my clients were so relaxed it was hard to come back to seating after it!

What are your thoughts on using tools during a massage? I mean a foot roller?

Also what is the relationship if any between Thai foot massage and reflexology?

I’ve been watching the free videos as well as the  culture corner. So nice to see how massage is practiced  in Thailand! It’s like so much a part of people’s lifestyle! It’s a great service that should be available for everyone, not just financially but also in this hectic world we love in now! Nothing nicer than connecting with people at this nivel and providing a bit of relaxation and ease.

Thanks! 🙏🏻

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Regarding massage tools:
I am not a big fan of massage tools. I have always found that the human hand feels much better. There are occasions where I use massage tools – they do have their place – but I don’t make a habit out of using them. There is one supplemental video in this course where I show how I use one particular massage tool – you might find that interesting.

Regarding the difference between Thai foot massage and Thai reflexology:
Thai foot massage is done as part of a Thai Massage session, with the client lying down, and without the use of oil or lotion. It is done in several positions, supine, prone and side-lying, and the therapist can use hands, forearms, elbows, knees, and feet.

Thai reflexology is done with the client sitting in a chair, and the therapist is sitting on a stool in front of the client. Thai reflexology is a separate modality and is not part of Thai Massage. The therapist uses oil or lotion, it is all done in the same position, and primarily hands and knuckles are used for the techniques.

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Module #4

Absolutely agree with your statements, ‘ don’t get stuck with technique,’ and ‘conceptual learning is more effective than technical learning.’ This is particularly important for me because I’m very technical, by the book learner. Thai massage is teaching me how to let go of that. I figure out that as long as I can remember that there are eight ways to work with the feet, th Dordrecht in which the come doesn’t neccesaaffect the outcome. Is this correct? 

I feel that now that we have the two Foot Massage Modules we can play around with the different techniques so that we can get work on ‘developing the sense of feeling.’ 

The Free Mini Series are an excellent addition to the course material! I specially enjoyed th e description of the Benefits of Thai Massage. I feel that this is the part we I can get the knowledge part of the course, which I crave! 

Thanks! 🙏🏻

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You are absolutely correct. It is not so important to get the exact sequence right as long as you do the techniques and it feels like it is flowing, both to you and the client. With time and practice, your sense of feeling will improve, especially once you don’t have to think about the techniques anymore. You will get to that point! Smile

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