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Ilka Mueller-Patham's Thai Massage for Sciatica Notes
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Ilka Mueller-Patham
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November 22, 2019 - 1:32 pm
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Im looking so much forward to learn more 🙂 Watching the video reminded me of last year, when I had sciatica pain, this was before I started my Thai Massage course and I was really afraid, because I thought I will not be able to handle the daily practice. But my teacher encouraged me and in the end after a session with him, he released my muscles and I could practice in the course. I was so impressed. I really believe we can help so much with Thai Massage. 

I am looking forward to the tools to check on the sciatica pain sources, if it is bone related or muscles. I do also think it's often the muscles who are creating a lot of tightness and it will be good to learn more techniques for release and help.

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Hi Ilka, welcome to the Thai Massage For Sciatica certification program. Please take a minute to familiarize yourself with our certification checklist to make sure it is all correctly organized:

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Yes, Thai Massage has great healing potential, and this course will definitely help you to apply this healing power to sciatica issues, including your own. I am looking forward to reading about your progress. Smile

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November 23, 2019 - 1:48 pm
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I have done some roaming through your sites, videos and forum messages and I have to say I already think I am spending my energy, time and also money rightful here. You seem to be a very kind hearted and phenomenal teacher. Already from this video I found that you could create more trust from myself into myself. I enjoyed your introduction of thai massage having physical and psychological effects and that both parts are well included into this holistic work. I do think and experienced the same and try to always create a positive atmosphere for my clients and sometimes already the good and positive feeling can already help so much.

For me especially interesting in this course is how to create a treatment session, which focusses on one pain area but still gives the client the pleasure and relaxation of maybe a full body massage. I do always want to give the client a positive energy but in the same time help them to get over there specific ailment and suffering. I really liked that you said that it is not important to pinpoint one pain source, instead working on the area and releasing the whole area will give so much more. 

I follow my hands and intuitions a lot when I massage and already your words in this video give me more believe into myself and that the pinpointing is not the most important part. 

The tests will help me being confident as well, incase of slipped disked etc. And I know when to be more careful. Thank you!

Looking forward to the next module. 🙂

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I am happy to hear that this course is a good fit for you. We seem to think along the same lines when it comes to massage and healing work. By the way, do you know that I am also originally from Germany? But I left there over 40 years ago.

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November 24, 2019 - 11:32 am
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Shama Kern said
I am happy to hear that this course is a good fit for you. We seem to think along the same lines when it comes to massage and healing work. By the way, do you know that I am also originally from Germany? But I left there over 40 years ago.

 

Lieber Shama, 

Ganz liebe Grüße and Dich! I was guessing you have German roots a tiny bit, because of your name and accent Wink Thailand is a beautiful place to call home now. Me and my Indian husband love to be in Thailand, maybe next time I'll come around in Chiang Mai! Have a great Sunday.

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November 25, 2019 - 3:04 pm
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Module 3

I tried the rocking technic yesterday on a client with lower back pain. I think it worked well especially in the beginning of the treatment, to open the body and to arrive and relax. I was wondering about the pressure of the hands. I did not give much pressure, I mostly was doing the rocking, but I was not sure if it would be also good to give a iittle bit more pressure on the lines and circle movement? What do you think is the best? 

I have another question and was wondering if the psoas is also sometimes interlinked with the sciatic nerve pain? But I guess if the piriformis is tense and/or the L4 L5 disc area creating the pain, also the Iliacpsoas gets affected? since it is so interlinked with the whole area? Like you said in Module 2. Would love to hear your thoughts.

I have a lot of clients with lower back pain, not always sciatica...but  I am sure many technics you show will be good for a general back massage as well...

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For good back work you would LOVE the Thai Massage Back Therapy course. The sciatica course covers only the lower back.

Although general muscle tension can certainly contribute to sciatica in general, the piriformis muscle is where the sciatic nerve is directly compressed (In the case of piriformis syndrome). However working the entire area as well is definitely beneficial - no question about that.

The hand pressure depends on the client. If someone has an inflammation in the lower spinal area, then pressure can easily become quite painful. Then again, if you have a client with a large and muscular back, then very light pressure won't do anything. For a skinny and bony person light pressure is probably the way to go. So it just depends on the individual client.

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I am sure I will love the back massage course! But now first this one ; ) slowly I will work through all your courses I feel Laugh

I enjoyed getting to know more about the elbow work. I always felt a little insecure about the use. We didn't learn it much in my Massage course, now I will definitely incorporated=ted much more. My partner really liked the elbow work and I will use it more. Also the percussion technique was enjoyed a lot. Never got this explanation and I find it makes a lot of sense and it is a good and gentle way of loosening this area.

I love the rocking influence in your style. I didn't learn it in my course, later on I saw it with another therapist and started to use it as well. It is such an amazing way of loosening the muscles sometimes constantly.

One question: How long do you usually stay with one technique? 

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I don't have a rule for staying with a technique for a specific length of time, but I do have some guidelines. 

If you rush through them too quickly, it feels hurried to the client, and it feels ineffectual.

If you stay with a technique for too long, it starts to feel oppressive to the client.

Sometimes I ask the client to tell me if they feel that a particular technique feels really good and beneficial to them, and then I stay with it longer. I have often received a massage, and a technique felt just so great to me, and I was disappointed that the therapist moved on too quickly. But normally clients (including myself) don't speak up in such situation. That's why it is important to provide a mechanism for that by asking the client  in the beginning of the session to tell you if they love something so that you can stay with it longer.

Another option is if I feel that a technique should be done longer, it is better to do it for a while, then do something else or change it up a bit, and then come back to the original technique. That feels better than doing the technique for a long time.

In Thailand stretching techniques are typically repeated 2 or 3 times. I feel that 3 times is a good number in general. But when you combine it with other elements like rocking, you can get a lot more mileage out of a stretch and spend more time on it.

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thats a good idea with asking the client about his/her preferences. I will try and include this as well. I learned the 3 times method as well, but sometimes I feel its too short, so to combine it sounds helpful to me. Thank you!

 

To this module. I am starting to like the elbow work. this is actually one of the biggest reasons i wanted to do more courses, I realised my hands are getting worked out so much and I need a bigger repertoire of techniques. And here we go 🙂 my partner really enjoyed the elbow and knee technique. will definitely work more with this and a little less with the hands.

unfortunately I have a toe problem right now, so the kneeing positions can sometimes be a little hurtful... I hope this gets easier with time. Yes you really seem like a spiderman!Laugh

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so good you spoke about to ask the client about his/her position. I tend to forget this sometimes and the clients neck starts to hurt... I will incorporate the pillows definitely the next time, it makes it so much more comfortable. Also the leg support makes so much sense to keep the knee safe.

Nice to come to the stretches! Also the rocking of the hip seems super relaxing for the client. good tipps on the positions and how to sit best with out making the client uncomfortable. It's so good to learn this! so important. 

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That's one of the most important elements in Thai Massage for me - that you don't have to do everything with your hands. I have had some long-time clients who were very large and much heavier than I am. If I would have primarily used my hands to work on them (and they wanted serious therapy work, not just feel-good work), I would have blown out my hands easily. Instead I got really good at using other body parts - actually so much so that I created an entire course called 'Hands Free Thai Massage'. Smile

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