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Greta Jaen Jones
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Module 1

This module one has given me good tips about awareness of breathing.  I haven been practicing compression already for a few months, but I was not aware of my breathing in the way is suggested in the video.  Today I practiced it and it was totally different. I practiced first on my self to get the rhythm, then I practiced this afternoon on my partner and it makes so much sense. I can feel a better compression with the breathing technique.  

Also, I have been practicing all the other suggested techniques, but on the table which I feel it may be easier than on the floor.  I need to improve rocking and thumbing,  as well I need to practice more squatting. I mean I have to practice more balance pose as the video bellow that Mr. Kern advices how to get balance and the variety of them for comfort of the therapist. In the daily practice the client's feedback of Thai techniques I combine with my orthopedic treatments are very positive, they love the twisting and some yoga postures.

Just a little of my experience of Thai Yoga bodywork on the table, I feel really good doing it there and I never get tired after 90 minutes or 2 hours treatment.  Highly recommended.

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Greta

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December 17, 2020 - 10:32 am
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Hi Greta, welcome to our community and the Complete Thai Massage certification program. Please take a moment and familiarize yourself with our certification checklist to make sure that it is all correctly organized:

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I am glad that you had a good start with the course. A lot of the material can be done on a table, although you might have to modify it a little from how it is shown on a floor mat. There are some techniques that work much better on a floor mat. If possible, I suggest that you try it both ways, on a table and on a floor mat. 

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Thank you!  I am totally agree with you that floor mat way offers more space for some techniques such on the arms and a few others.  I will definitely will practice on a floor mat.  I will be purchasing a good mat this week. 🙂

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I have been practicing the Chi machine technique on the floor with my husband before posting here, so I can compare and feel this technique.  First, I use sometimes in my massage sessions.  Done in the floors is easy, as it feels effortless in comparison with on the table where I use my biceps. For previous experience the clients love this soft movement. I find easy to see the body movement (Chi machine) on ladies than in men. Now, I know more about it and the tricks on how to do it better.  Thanks.

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I have the same experience that the Chi Machine is easier on women than on men. Women in general are more inclined to be nurtured than men. Physically, men are often more rigid than women. You might find this with other techniques as well. This is not so evident with table/oil massage where you don't move clients around, but it becomes much more noticeable with Thai Massage where there is so much physical manipulation.

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I have practiced several times the foot techniques, I had to synchronise a bit extra the circular technique as this movement require a bit more coordination as this is first time for me. It cost me a little a the beginning, but I feel more confident now after a couple of days practicing on my partner the foot techniques.  My husband says it feel good and fluent the routine.  He has received many of my Table Thai  techniques, so he can judge any difference on  my routine fluency.  Shama, I have to admit still I am struggling a little bit with working on the floorEmbarassed my legs hurt a bit from the kneeling position.  I practice every day, but still Confusedperhaps I need more time to get used to the floor?  

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It can definitely take some time to get used to the floor work. As you will see, there are several videos in this course that provide exercises to help you with this process. Also make sure that your mat is soft enough so that you don't hurt your knees and ankles. In the long run,  pretty much everybody gets used to working on the floor, but it can take some time. 

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Hi,  practicing the foot work  many times now for me is a great addition and modification of some techniques that I already do in my Thai yoga routine. I definitely have been watching your body mechanic to perform each moves and doing it at the same time and as a giver it feels good to my body.

I feel more relax now you said we don't have to perform all the techniques in one go, because I am a person when I learn a routine I try to remember them as much as I can. I think that happens to many i guess not me.  The feedback I had for performing these new techniques is that they feel like heaven.  They are very relaxing. Thanks 

 

P.D:I received my floor mat and my knees are much happier working  there. 

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Great - a good mat can make all the difference. Smile

The routine and the sequences are necessary for learning the techniques and they are useful for general full body sessions. But in the long run it is essential to be able to work outside of fixed routines in order to work on exactly what the client needs and what works best for your clients. That's where creativity and intuition enter the picture.

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Modulo 5

I have practice the leg warm up and it feels good to the receiver  It was a bit difficult to me at the beginner to stabilise the leg. I had to do it  many times to do it right, but now I feel more practical on it.  While working on my partner I found out it was a bit tender for him working in the abductors area, as you mentioned, so I repeat again the work there, but in a light motion and it was better. this time. So from now on I will be a bit careful when approaching to the abductors area. 

I have to keep up and remember to sync my breath while compressing. a bit hard at times but I am getting there.

What do you do with the leg warm up do you do one leg first inside and outside then the other or alternate as show in the video?

Happy New Year!

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The general rule is that you should avoid switching sides and moving around the body all the time. Unnecessary movement is a distraction for the client.  It feels strange if the therapist is constantly switching from one leg to the other. Therefore it is best to do as much as possible on one side, and when that is done, you switch to do the other side.

There are no hard and fast rules about this, but the idea is to avoid moving around more than necessary.

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Module 6

I have done before compressions with my elbow mainly on the quads area, but this course takes me beyond by working on all the inner sen lines. Fantastic!.  Practicing these new movements on my partner that is super rigid, specially his legs, I had to support his leg with a bolster under his knee to perform all this techniques in his comfort level. 

Even though his rigidity, he felt the rocking and the compressions very nice to him.  I must admit that following the suggested angle or degree to compress the calf and do the elephant walk is the right one. Thanks

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Module 7 

Analysing the feet of my partner he seems to have lateral hip rotation (as in Orthopedic massage we called) or open/relaxed hip as you mentioned. I am familiar with this type of  Probably most of y clients has lateral hip rotation. It is very true that when we try to move inward in some clients does not move well.  Usually my partner has very tight  tensor fascia latae, ITB and some of the gluteus medius as it always cost a lot to work on those internal rotation of the leg. 

As in the previous module 7 I had to use the bolster under the knee to work on the butterfly technique and the elephant walk.  The 90 degree angle stretch is really deep with one foot, although they prefer the walking with two feet.  The hip joint stretch technique I have done it before straight back, I did not know that it was ineffective that way, but I can see your movement really move the hip. Wonderfull to know it. Thanks

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Working on very stiff people can be quite challenging for us, but of course they are the ones that need this work most. Working on flexible yogi-type clients is easier and more fun, but they don't really need it that much. Smile

It's a wonderful feeling to help someone who is stiff and has problems to get better and see the range of motion increase. In Thai Massage the results of our work are much easier to see than with oil massage.

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Very true, Since I started Thai Yoga bodywork on the table on my partner i have seen him coming form a 40 degree hamstring stretch to a 70 degree stretch after several Thai stretches, I know he need more to achieve a  goal that take him to a 90 degree.  He really benefit from this therapy.  I am sure that little by little will be able to achieve it, but it is really hard on me as you  mentioned.  I have had the opportunity to practice and work on both type of body from a yogi one to a very stiff person, which give a good sense on how to approach different sceneries.

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I am quite familiar with the movements/stretches as I perform on Table Thai, so now I am doing it on the floor. it feels different for me doing it on the floor.  I like the incorporation of the calf pulling and the circular/rubbing of the knee.

I have been practicing in my partner that is very stiff so it is hard to do full stretch but rucking him really relax and help his leg a lot to do the stretch. 

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Working on the stretch of the abductors I have experienced that men are less flexible/open to relax the leg to allow this stretch than the women.

For my partner as I have mentioned before he is very stiff it is very challenging, but I respect the degree of stretch he can get to avoid over-stretching and causing muscles strains. I have been lucky to perform these techniques in different type of body from stiff to yogi type body.  

These hip pie techniques that we have been practicing so far, for my personal experience I have found them very useful to help my clients to relief lower back pain, as well the body twist.

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It's definitely an advantage if you can practice on a variety of people. Can you do that with your existing clients? Working just on one very stiff person is quite challenging. We have quite a few students who ask their clients if they would mind if you practice some new moves on them and give feedback how they like them. They always say yes, from what I have heard.

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Yes, I have. I usually practice first hand on my husband that is stiff then I have some volunteers neighbours and some clients that allow me to practice on them thanks God. 

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Module 10

Hi,

The techniques learnt in this module  I am very familiar  like the hip pie, spinal twist, as I do in my Table Thai massage.  Also, I use them a lot in special the spinal twist and hip pie in different versions to help my clients to relieve lower back pain.  They are very effectives. 

Blood stop technique I have heard before, but never I have practiced before until now you have taught us in this module 10. 

Absolutely I agree that the hara connection is very important in our treatment. 

 I would like to know a bit more about the blood stop technique contraindications, if you can share about what the contraindications  are to it?  

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