Good day, I began watching the videos and have watched Modules I, II, and III. I have been offering Thai Body work for about 5 or 6 years now after having taken an in person course here in Maine. I only see a few clients per week as I'm "retired" and like having lots of free time. I thought it would be nice to explore some of your techniques and am enjoying the videos and your teaching style. I have practiced the Chi Machine on a couple of clients and they both liked it. I have also tried the 2nd move I think in Module II with one leg held in place up against the thigh and the other lifted and rocked (can't remember the name) but I definitely need more practice with that. I'll watch it again and practice on my husband. He always enjoys being the practice body. Thanks, Gayle
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I hope I am not disturbing your "retirement" too much. Glad to have you with us!
I have registered for certification and read the instructions. Hope I get it right this time!
Rocking involves more movement than linear pressure and enhances energy and healing properties of thai massage, especially on people who are sensitive to linear pressure and larger movements of traditional thai massage. I'm certified with Nuad Boran northern style.
I like that the rocking techniques can be used as a mini session on one area of the body or as a full body session and I can see how it'd be incredibly relaxing!
I have intuitively used some similar movements to the slow and fast rocking in my practice but from seeing your hand placements, one initiating the movement and the other in an assist/control placement, I think it is an improvement on what I do. The wiggle technique is interesting and I think may be more effective than simple rubbing on a tender spot. Circling looks interesting too and I'm looking forward to learning that and the swinging techniques for future use.
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In Thailand, rocking is practically never used in Thai Massage. I have been receiving Thai Massage sessions in Thailand for two decades, and no therapist ever did anything that resembled rocking. However I had experienced rocking moves in other massage styles, and it inspired me to create a number of rocking movements that go very well with Thai Massage. This course was the result, and it has inspired lots of western Thai Massage practitioners to include rocking into their work.
Nowadays you are much more likely to receive a Thai Massage session that includes rocking moves in the western world than in Thailand, and many came through this course.
Module II Thai Rocking Certification
I've watched the video a few times now and been practicing on clients. I think I've got the Chi Machine down pretty well. This morning's client said she felt an circular opening type feeling in her abdomen which she loved but had trouble articulating. She really enjoyed the experience. I also performed the Traction rock and that gave her a feeling of security which I found interesting.
The Chi Machine is fairly easy to perform and with the rhythmic side to side movement I can see even the nose move a little. I have learned to start slow, building up speed, and gradually slow down. Then I leave them still while still holding their ankles for a few moments to let the sensation wash over them. Nothing but good feedback so far.
The Traction Rock has taken a little more practice for me but I think I've got it down now. At first it felt jerky and I recognize that I was pulling with my arms more than leaning the upper body while pulling. I've also been starting with slow rock, faster rock, and a slow down at the end.
I've used the visual assessment of hip mobility for years in my yoga classes. I've found though that sometimes people hold their legs unconsciously and once they've been asked to relax their hips they will open more than a quick visual would lead me to believe. This assessment flows quite easily into the Thai practice.
I'm looking forward to Module III
I've watched this module a couple of times and been working with it with clients.
Hip assessment is fairly simple & straight forward. You do a great job explaining things in detail so that I think that even people who aren't familiar with yoga or massage would be able to understand.
One client abducts quite well but doesn't adduct well so I spent some time working her legs rocking in the direction of stiffness before moving into the traditional thai massage for hips. She felt that it did assist in opening her hips to adduct better. She also loves the chi machine. 🙂 Another client has hips that are essentially "locked". I've used it on her twice now and she feels that it does help at least to warm her for further traditional movements. She is the stiffest female I've ever worked on! I told her today that with this course I will hopefully learn some further techniques to help her unlock. She is arthritic so gentleness is the way to go.
I think I've got the body mechanics and technique down pretty good at this point. I like that it does work the sen lines, warms and relaxes the muscles and gives some motion in the joint with one technique!
I haven't done the technique at the "qua" or that is what my Thai Chi teacher used to call it yet. I'm not comfortable being that up close and personal. But I think I may be comfortable with another client I haven't seen in a few weeks to give it a try. I actually had this done to me at a resort in Mexico a few years back! It felt good but pretty intense.
With a client who is sooo stiff, you have your work cut out for you to put this course to the test!
With such people it does take time - there is no quick fix for super stiff people. Also keep in mind that extremely stiff bodies can indicate mental rigidity as well, so there are two levels to address.
Thai Rocking Module IV
After a short break I began working with the techniques in Module IV. I've watched it several times. I have used and like the rocking adduction where you start at the knee and work up and down the legs. I like the feel of it and I think it is a better fit for me than the straight on pushing one with the control hand. Working the sen lines, the lift of the muscle while rocking seems more effective for my clients. The ankle circle with traction and compression is familiar but I find rocking with it feels a little jerky on my end especially on clients with heavy legs. I'm fairly small. I really like the technique with the knee up and bent, bracing the ankle and doing the adduct and pull circle. I've found this effective with one particularly stiff client as well as the abduction rock at the qua with palms. I cannot use the throw leg up and allow to relax with my more tender clients though.
Looking forward to more techniques to practice.
I am continuing to enjoy the different techniques and find that I can flow through some of them quite nicely. I've used the circle hip rock and the rocking back and forth lengthwise techniques quite a bit. Less practice with the abduction and adduction rocks in this module but what I've done I like. Need more practice though for it to feel natural and smooth transitions but I'll get it. Rocking twist is great! I feel more confident with this than traditional twist. Confident that I'm not gonna go too far with it. Always a concern with that particular move. SO many new techniques to play with! My clients are loving the mix up between rocking and traditional.
This module seems almost intuitive to me. The rocking at the hip bone is something I've done before this course and I totally "get" that this isn't appropriate for male clients. The palms or fingertips on the outside of the hip is also nice. Up and down the side body. I wish I had someone that could perform these techniques for me. 🙂
The low back press/pull rock also looks like it'd feel great for me and my clients said it felt wonderful although I'm not yet totally smooth with that transition from side to side. I've found that I'm more proficient with smaller clients, especially when it comes to reaching across the body with my leg holding theirs down and using both hands.
Looking forward to more.
Love the techniques but totally can't do the first couple on the majority of my clients. I am fairly small. I do have one client though that I'm anxious to play with these on.
The belly sandwich is nice. I've practiced on a few with good feedback. One woman asked that I do it some more. 🙂 She felt her low back release with the rock.
On to Mod 8
All of these techniques are ones I can incorporate in a rocking flow that I've been working on. Lower ribcage is straightforward as well as the two techniques at the chest center. I like using the breath with movement (yoga) aspect of the 2nd chest technique as well as the shoulder technique. I find the Figure 8 technique of course more difficult on larger people but a lovely move for those I can handle, same for shoulder circle and spinal twist. Client this morning enjoyed the flow and I promised I'd be smoother the next time we gave it a try. Thankful for her and others willingness to experiment with the rocking techniques. They have all express that they like it and I mix it with traditional moves as well.
Took a little time off but I'm back at it.
The arm techniques are fairly simple and as usual much easier on my lighter weight clients. Surprising how heavy some peoples arms are. 🙂 I like your suggestion for communication and visualization. I sometimes use those type of techniques throughout. My clients tell me the swinging feels great as well as seems to loosen up the shoulders quite well. Nice to have more options.
I loved watching you go through a rocking flow. That was very helpful. Also nice that it is very similar to what I'd put together. My clients have reported that the rocking feels much smoother as I've come along in practice. Always nice to have clients that are happy to have me practice new things on them.
On to Mod 10.
Good to hear that your clients are confirming your progress. And yes, it's great to have such clients who like to experience new things even if they are not 100% yet.
With your long yoga and Thai Massage background all this should come to you pretty easily. You are retired according to your bio, but you are still keeping your practice up, it seems?
Yes I am "retired" from my full time management job as of about a year ago but I continue to teach a gentle awakening yoga 2x a week and have a few bodywork clients on a regular basis. I really enjoy the bodywork but limit it because I also enjoy retirement 🙂 and tire more easily than I used to. Loving learning new techniques. I also offer Yoga Nidra sessions and am a Reiki practitioner Master level. All of these things blend together for a lovely spiritual practice as well as helping others along their path
I just watched Mod 10 and will report on my progress with that soon.