June 26, 2017
Incredible introduction about Thai foot massage and its diference with reflexology.
During this module I understand that the thai foot massage is part of the complete thai massage and the thai massage with oil is variation of it . That is very importnat due we have a good background if clients request info about the the type of massage.
Understanding Energy Lines is very important to explain the client that this type of massage is base in the energy lines of the foot and is not using pressure points like in reflexology.
After having this background I started practicing the technique showed in this module and at first I noticed I was using my muscles and I was having a little bakc pain. After making some correction in posture and supports everythinhg was very nice.
My chikung training helped me to control breathing during the my firts practice.
My firts sesion was about 20 mins. My muscles were ok but I felt tremendus hot in all my body.
During this moduel I practice a lot with friends ( they Happy ) so I can correct mi hands posture and body posture.
In all of the I end up with my body temp very high, I guess was energy movement.
My best learning in this course was the correct posture to while applying body weight.
Hi Felipe, welcome to our forum and the Thai Foot Massage certification program. Please take a moment and familiarize yourself with our certification check list to make sure that it is all correctly organized:
Regarding your high body temperature, try to focus on your even breathing, make sure that you feel relaxed, work only with body weight, and put your attention on your hara, and not just on your hands. That should prevent such a rise in body temperature.
June 26, 2017
Hi All, Finally I got it How it works this forum.
Starting Again: I am Felipe Canchala from Colombia. I enrolled in thai foot massage training because I really love massage and specelly massage on feet. So, I decided to learn a share with friends and family and why not start a bussines.
I have practice Chi kung for Couple of years and is good complement.
I work as a Consultant in Enginnering sector and I want to spen part of my free time doing thai foot massage .
My native language is spanish, so if somebody is taking the thai foot training massage shot me a message so we can share.
We have several native Spanish speakers in our community. One is Sandra White who is doing the Complete Thai Massage course now. She is from Colombia but lives in the US. Here is her forum thread:
Then there is Paula Herrera, also from Colombia. That's an older thread.
If you click on anyone's picture or name or icon, their profile opens up which lists their email. So you can contact them if you like.
June 26, 2017
Here I ma Again!
Shama thanks for the linking with Sandra and Paula.
Once I told my friend I was studying thai foot massage everybody rised up hands to be booked for my practice which was very good becase I could realized a lot abuot hands posistion, ergonomics body, speaking or not speking during the sesion.
During this modules I could practice all the techniques and could notice stifness in legs people while massagein feet with my body 45º toward person. I could difference stifness in leg and hips. Was kind of trick but helps me a lot to see which position is better for the cliets.
Something very intersting was a friend with very small feet so was kind of difficult to wrap the foot with the two hands when you position in 45º so I had to use only one hand. In the other hand was another friend with very big foot so I could use my hands ( I whished was 4 hands because is really big) and tooks a lot of ebergy to massage his feet. Hi is big and when you lift your leg to position in your to use the knucle techique could see how ridgid was.
I learn a lot and specially noticed when the thumb started burning if you are not in correct position and not using the body weight.
June 26, 2017
After a very moved week I have returned to write my post about module 3.
At the start of this module I have experience several thinsg while massagin people´s feet with different techniques.
I have an Injury in back which cause me a pain and I was about to give up woth the course. After having a conversation with shama, he explain that I could be tense or not realxed and using just muscles and not body weight. I made mysefl aware of using the body weight without fearing of the pian of the back or putting too much weight in the client`s feet. ( That´s why I though at the begining ), but then I asked if the weight was ok so I can feel how much weight I put over feet. (That was for short clients with small feet), for tall people with big feet you need a little extra weight, because they ask for more pressure in the sole of the feet.
You were right Shama the technique learned in mocule 3 looks like easy but at the begining but getting the flow of moving the hands and circle your baody takes a littles time. This is like dancing. So I decide before any practicing sesion to practice at least 20 mins of very fluid chi kung movements, that way my body is warn and relaxed.
Leaning back and forward with feet next to your tights is even strecching for me. every time i made a new practice I start understanding the connection of the massage with the other person.
Massaging the top of feet is quite different because there is not as much muscles as in the sole of the feet, so I think we have to be very careful because this area looks like more sensitive.
See you in the next module.
One of the best features of Thai Massage is that it stresses the body less than many other modalities since you can arrange your body position in many ways and use your body weight effectively to avoid stressing your own body. However doing this correctly is an art.
The tendency of new students it to focus on the technique and not focus enough on the comfort of their own body. I suggest to practice in such a way that you totally focus on your own comfort. Try to find the position which takes least effort, try to find the most effective way to use your body weight, focus on relaxing your body while working.
Often this takes only small adjustments. If done correctly, it will not stress your body.
June 26, 2017
Hi all, definiltly the some friends who experienced the massage in the facedown position or lying on the side told me they prefrered that position due that they felt some stress on the lower back becuase they were not use to be lay down face up in a floor mat, (Actually was their firts experience in mssage feet) in the end they felt very good ans said they´ll be back.
During this module I could realize the arc that is form in feet in the facedown position, one of the person i was making practice could not turn or rotate to have the feet angle in even helping rolling the knee in. His leg was very stiff so was better to massage in lying on the sides and use one the techiniques learned in first modules to help relive the stifeness.
Using the knees and feet to massage in the facedown position requires good equilibrium, using this technique was very comfortable and surprising for the people.
Some of the people I have pratice with told me that they had previus reflexology, but thai foot massage was completly diferent, no pain at alll compared with reflexology. They told that instead pain they experence relive which was a very good feedback.
I am happy of the progrees and all that I leraned in this four modules
June 26, 2017
By this module I had experiece several techniques that now I can start making an structure of how the massage can go during the sesion, doesn't have to be in and specific oreder but depending on flows duirng the sesion you can make a combination, at the begging I was thinking, how I could make all this in one sesion but is free desciosn on which technique we use on if client wants something very specific.
I have notice that most of the people I have practice with have some type of restriction in hip due that the bending-in is quiet dificult so was a good insight for me to start noticing this so I could make more aware of other parts of the body that are realted to movemnet of the feet.
something very importar I learned in this module is to make the feet soft by making the twist in-out.
At the begining the client could be tense or thinking to much so making a warming on the feet initially helps to make the massage flow very dynamic.
Feet manipulation was really nice to start some sesion due that it can soft the feet and then you can flow more dynamic.
Nice Day for all
You are exactly right! This is not meant to be a fixed sequence. The idea is to build it into a session whatever way it fits. Ideally this first section of the course can be used in combination with Thai Massage. Then you can deal with issues like stiff hips as well.
And yes, the Thai foot massage is not as intense or painful as western reflexology can sometimes be. I have experienced western reflexology, and for me it was painful and not much enjoyable. I have been told by western reflexologists that it is not supposed to be painful, and should not be painful, but in my experience it was painful. I much prefer the Thai version which is more enjoyable as far as I am concerned.
June 26, 2017
Wow This was very interesting module to understang how to handle clients with cracking Joints. Most od the people I have practice with has some kind of cracking in their ankle joints and ist quit difficult becuase I aksked if they had suffer some injury or something similar but they said not. After making a little research a posibility could be a deficient in some mineral in body, well this not very much related with the massage but was good to know it and share it.
I am glad in this video you show how to handel the ankle and move the feet to make them soft and also take the decision of not using the rotation technique if the joint is cracking.
After finishing the firts part f the course, we have a lot moaterial to structure a good sesion, also good tips an recommendations that are very useful at the momente of massaging.
Note: Couple of weeks ago I went for a feet massage around the city, the place was very nice but at the moment of massage the person was using glooves, for me that was kind strange, I ask them why and they respond that was a sanity regulation, was the very first time I saw something like that.
I looking for regulations here, how are could you give us your opinion about the use of glooves?
I have heard about this before. In Thailand nobody ever uses gloves. I think gloves send the message that feet are something dirty, something that should not really be touched, something that the therapist has to have a separation from. As far as I am concerned, this is a terrible message to send. I would never ever use gloves for foot massage.
June 26, 2017
June 26, 2017
Hi Shama and Everybody!
With all this material in hands just foot massage is great chance to make a profitable bussines.
Regardding to this module, ergonimic of body chance, in this we are using more power force from our hands and arms (I think) how ever it works with the same principle of using the weigh of the body, but from the chair is quiet diferent.
When I practiced this way in the same persons I have tried the thai foot massage, they enjoy however they experience a little pain at the begining like you mention in the video specially when stroking down and stroking sideways.
I noticed tight spots in diferente parts on the feet and checking with reflexology chart pointed certain organs in which I focus gentle until they were gone.
One of the feedbacks of a very good friend who use to be constipate was that the next they she good go to toilet and feel very nice and relaxed. When I massaged her feet I found hot or tight spot in which reflexology chart shows is located small and large intestine.
For me as me was very nice to here from here that she is feeeling nice and relaxed and someway somehow help her to aliviate her constipation.
Looking forward the next modueles
June 26, 2017
Hi Shama and everybody, I am happy to learn more and more and be able to practice with my friends, so fa I have done more than 10 sessions.
In this module was so helpful becasue well my plan is at first go the clients place, so if there is no an recliner available being bale to do reflexology in the floor mat is a good option. At the beging I practice with my partner at home and made a setp up in the bed for both to be in very ergonomic position. And then made another setup in a floor mat. Both work perfect using the techniques describe in previosu modules and this one, however by now I prefer to work in the floor.
As mention in previous experiences diferent responses from my friends about the sensation while massaging and after sesion in both thai foot massage and reflexology is that they feel lighter, they feel calm some say that they feel energized.
I noticed how important is to switch finger while massaging so we dont burnt out our hands.
Shama, is there any rule if thumb in for how long we should massage a tight sopt if the decision is to focus on a specific point?
Thanks and Regards
There is no rule of thumb for that. However I can tell you how important it is to focus on spots which need extra work. So many times I have gone to massage therapists who just did their standard sequence. When I asked them to work on something specific, they said they would do it, but then they mostly did their one-size-fits-all sequence. This leaves the client frustrated. But if the client gives you feedback that one area needs extra work, and you really focus on that, it makes the client feel that you really care.
You can work on it until there is obvious improvement. One good way of doing this is to ask the client how much discomfort they experience on a scale from one to ten. When you start out working on this, the client might say that it is an 8. If the pain is 9 or 10, you need to back off immediately, because then it is just too much.
After a while of working on this area, you ask the same question. If the pain has gone down to a 5, let's say, it is obvious that you are making progress. Then you continue until the pain level is at a 2 or 3. That's a good time to move on to another area.
June 26, 2017
June 26, 2017
Hi Shama and Everybody. This is the end of the course and I am really happy to be able to completed and practoce a lot. On this last module I have learned how vibration from hitting gently the foot with fist creates a stimulation that is transmited up to leg and feels good according my friends who experecienced. Also is good to wake up the feet afetr the sesion or comeback from relaxation.
Shama, regarding to pulling toes and make them crack is there something we have to have in consideration?. I understand we must ask clients about conform and disconform while massaging, how ever an insinght about this would be very nice.
One more question:
In have tried some full thai massage and in some of them they washed my feet at the beging, if feels ok and I guess they do also by hygene. How ever how we can handle this hygene part. It is supposed that a client is going to have a foot massage and she / he should consider to have their feet clean. The question is: is it ok to mention on the info previuos to a sesion to the client that he / she should have there feet clean ( this when going to clients houses) or is to aggressive to ask for it?
I aks this because the plan for me now is to go to client´s places or rent a temporary place for the time of the sesion and if the setup is not availbale to wash the people´s feet someway somehow i think it is importat to make the cliente aware of that.
Shama thanks again for all details and teaching during this 10 modules. I took the course as part of hooby but now is becoming more real to becoming a therapys.
In some near feature I´ll get back to learn more about other type of massages
I wonder if my login sesion will end up after the 3 months certification deadline?
Thanks for all and see you