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Edmund George
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Module 1

This first video definitely enlighten me on how basic my current skills that I use are. Current I have multiple repeat clients an new clients after referrals with the practice of only stretching, compression and kneading. Breathing I do use as I am a certified Pilates instructor. This introductory video has me very excited about improving my current practice and learning new skills. I have 3 new clients in a couple of days a feel a confidence boost to work with these new clients and future clients now that I'm enrolled.

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Hi Edmund, welcome to the Complete Thai Massage certification program. At least, I think this is why you are posting. The reason why I am not sure is because we have not received a certification registration from you. We need that in order to issue a certificate(s).

You can find the certification registration form by clicking on the 'Certification Information' banner in the sidebar of your membership portal. This will take you to our Certification Tutorial. On that page just scroll down and you will find the 'certification registration' section where you can fill out the form and send it in.

Also please watch (or re-watch) the second video on the tutorial page to make sure that you know the process. I already corrected a couple of things for you. Your forum topic title is not 'Module 1', but your name and your course so that you can be found. I fixed that for you.

The 'Module 1' goes on top of your post to identify which module you are writing about. I fixed that for you as well. Smile

The second video on the tutorial page will visually show you how it is supposed to look like. Also you can look at any of the other forum threads to see the correct structure.

Here is a condensed version of the tutorial for your reference - our Certification Checklist:

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Please make sure to click on 'Add Reply' and NOT on 'Add Topic' for your next post.

Don't worry, you will be fine once you get the hang of the forum. Smile

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I spent the last few days practicing Chi Machine technique before a session with one of my clients. After placing her feet down and allowing her sometime to enjoy the experience of energy flow she started shivering for few seconds like a really cold breeze came over her. She couldn't believe how powerful this simple technique was. 

Watching it happen amazed me as well, wow! This is truly magical.

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I am happy to hear that you had such a powerful experience with the Chi Machine. Smile

I hope you will find several more amazing techniques in this course!

We received your certification registration - thanks. Now you are all set!

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Had the courtesy of practicing with my partner and a client then a redo with my partner.

On first attempt with my partner she pointed out to much pressure with my thumb. Continuing the session I would ask her how the pressure was and so I improved. 

Communicating with client throughout the session there was no issue. Client "really enjoyed treatment" 

On second attempt with my partner there were no issues with pressure.

Clearly as you mentioned this requires consistent practicing to balance pressure from bodyweight yet making treatment effective.

My question:

Consistently asking throughout session how is the pressure. Is that unprofessional?

I also think that it was an initial assumption by me to think my partner could handle pressure.

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If you consistently ask how the pressure is, that will become annoying very quickly. It is better if you tell your partner/client before you start the session that they should let you know if the pressure is too much for them, i.e. encourage feedback.

All this will be addressed repeatedly throughout the course. There are techniques where you really should ask how the pressure or the intensity is. This applies mostly to potentially strong stretches. We have a methodology for doing that, called the one-to-ten method. This will be coming up in the course.

Interaction and communication with the client is important in Thai Massage since there is so much movement with all the stretches that can easily run up to the limit of flexibility or tolerance of the client. Therefore communication in Thai Massage is actually part of our therapeutic approach. There is an entire module that deals with this in great detail (module #35).

But constantly asking for feedback during a session won't allow the client to relax and zone out. After a while you will develop a feeling for how far you can go with the pressure, and you won't need to hear it from the client so much anymore. This will come with experience.

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I did some more practice, but this time e I recorded myself. I realized I was trying to focus on do it perfect rather than allow the natural flow through my body to client. 

Is it safe to perform Chi Machine on a pregnant client?

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That is difficult to answer in a generalized way. Normally it should be safe, but keep in mind that the risk of miscarriage is highest in the first trimester. If a woman miscarries, there could be a possibility that she might look for causes and point the finger at you, even if your work had nothing to do with it.

Therefore I would suggest to either only work with a pregnant woman where there is already a relationship of trust, or have her sign a waiver. It is better to be safe than sorry. It is also a good idea to ask such a client about possible previous miscarriages.

It depends a lot on where you are. The US, for example, is a very litigious society, and people are being blamed for all kinds of crazy stuff sometimes. This might not be the case where you are.

There are lots of ways to work on pregnant women in a safe way. There is some material coming up about that in this course in an article about contraindications.

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Transitioning and maintaining contact with client was comfortable for me considering I do Pilates and Calisthenics (body weight training). 

My touch (pressure) is a lot better now following more reviews from clients. It all worked out highlighting your point of not trying to get it perfect from day one.

I did multiple practices by selecting 6 moves and working with them in a 20 minute period. Then I would shuffle the moves around and do the same.

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"My touch (pressure) is a lot better now following more reviews from clients."  - Great, it will all improve with time, practice, experience, and feedback. Smile

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Work with thumb for leg warm up was easier to manage being that I was in the rhythm from foot massage. 

The palm roll for leg warm up was more challenging at first than I thought. After consistently practicing on my partner, even spent some time with a pillow to really get a feel for the motion. 

After repetitive practice I had a volunteer client I worked with where I joint foot massage and leg warm together as a session. Client was really pleased with the treatment noting that if I continued any long she would fall asleep. This was after a 45 minutes.

I will definitely do so more work practicing and some basic workout for my forearms. Being that this motion is new to me I felt it in that area. 

Looking at both techniques, would you say one is best for thicker thighs the the other? 

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If someone has really thick or muscular thighs, working with hands and thumbs can be challenging, i.e. stressful for your hands. In such cases it is better to work with forearms which will be covered in an upcoming module.

It all depends on how much power you have in your hands and how big or small your hands are. The general rule is to work in such a way that you do not stress your own body. It's a matter of adjusting and modifying your work so that it works best for you AND for your client.

You will hear me talk about this a lot in this course.

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I must first add that detailed responses always answer my questions. Also really appreciate the fact repeat information from before as you give new information.

Forearm technique is one that I learnt in the very basic training I got from another therapist. Having mentioned you a definitely correct on thicker thighs or muscular thighs. 

Thai massage not very popular in my country a number of people find in difficult to warm up the the position of the therapist when using the forearm technique, therefore I am pleased to learn the palm roll technique. 

Apart from informing new clients about Thai massage style vs the more commonly known western style I would generally use the forearm technique for repeat clients who has gain trust. 

Please do not hesitate to tell me if that is the wrong method of going about it. 

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If people are not used to Thai Massage, there are some ways to address this. One method I like is to have a printed sheet with all the advantages of Thai Massage listed, and hand that out to prospective Thai Massage clients.

If you go through the articles on our website (https://thaihealingmassage.com/blog) you will find lots of ideas for such a 'fact sheet'. Then they get to convince themselves first instead of going straight into an unknown experience. 

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Module 7

I struggled with grip being that my hands sweat really quickly. Switching to counter grip or hold from back of the hill or push pull with leg grip worked better for me. 

Need some more practice as I'm not fully settled into the position.

For elephant walk on inner thigh stretch, I doubled the pillow after hip rock which was more comfortable for client.

Would you advise thus as an option?

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Certainly, this depends entirely on the client if you use a pillow, or how many pillows you use. There are no rules here.

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Module 8

I developed a better flow with foot massage, leg warm and stretch as I spent more time practicing and focusing on concept rather than memorizing deferent routines. 

I also took some time to review videos in reverse (from module 8 back) and that helped improve my ergonomics significantly.

I did a 45 minutes session with what I have learnt so far, with a client having a lot of flexibility in her right hip and super tight in her left. Using the forearm compression technic, she enjoyed while i worked on the right side, however when I moved to the left, while working on her inner thigh it was extra sensitive. Just bending her knee into a 45 degree was painful, so I decided to do hip rock then switch from forearm compression to palm compression, using the push pull of the thigh muscles which she then found very pleasant. 

Was that the right thing to do? If so should I keep that in mind in situations where I notice tension in areas before I start.

Below is a link to clients reviews:

https://g.page/r/CaFzQaCe46eyEBA

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That's exactly the right way to go about it. If a direct stretch is not working, replace it with a rocking move. If a strong pressure technique is too much, replace it with a gentler technique.

I read the reviews - you are obviously doing a great job - congratulations!

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Module 9

I spent the week doing repetitive practice on every module so far. Understanding the sensitivity of stretches particularly the hamstring area for most people I have come across. 

Would it make sense to place a pillow to the side of the hip for support when doing 90 and 45 degree leg stretches? 

How far into pregnancy would you suggest performing these stretch to someone?

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Module 10

I had a friend who is a yoga instructor perform the stretches on me so I get a better understanding of the stretches and pressure. I also had my friend do rocking motion with various pressure so I truly understand the sensation of the rocking motion. 

When stretching the calf muscles, would you change to foot position when giving more attention to the calves? By changing meaning twisting the foot inward or outward. 

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