Module 1 – I was very excited to begin my journey into this course. I enjoyed wathing the first Module. In it Shama Kern with over the Set-up on the floor for better access to your client from all angles if that works for your own bodies needs.
In this program anatomy is not our deep focus, our focus is on energy flow that starts in the navel and our ability to help move it. That means we nee to feel what is happening in our bodies and our clients and feel our way around.
I looking forward to learning all techniques, compression, stretching, twisting, traction, rocking, percussion, kneading and holding. We will also learn how to use our tools, thumbs, fingers, knuckles, hands,forearms, elbows, knees and feet
Video went over our positions, which I know my yoga back ground will help me with. We also learned th positions of the client, supine, prone, sitting or side lying. I am looking forward to learning to combine techniques and when my touch feels magical with energy flowing. Connecting the breath and the movem, exhale on lean in and inhale when you lean out. Your breath connects you to your energy.
Love and Light,
Right mindest, Right body posture, Right attitude, Right breathing in each move that makes it artistic and beautiful. Thai Massage and Thai Yoga Massage is the same thing, name just comes from different places. But these lessons will stay away from Traditional Thai Massage to give us a bit more freedom to merge and be artistic.
Our body needs to be relaxed but placed straight and correct. We always want to use body weight instead of muscle power and be in a good mindset. It will make the client enjoy the experience better. While working we will learn sequencing and how to theraputic area work.
Practice, Pratice and Practice. Be patient and learn more each time you watch each video and make it become natural.
Chi Machine 1 to 2 mins. – kneeling at their feet, their heel in your palms facing up in middle of your thighs. Client in rocking motion from head to toe. Watch clients hips, once hips move rest of body will move with them. When done correct client will experience tingling in entire body and a rush of energy, warmth and a back massage. When complete, slow down and put down legs and sit and wait 10 to 15 sec. Great opening move.
After practicing the Chi Machine with my partner (which is about 100 pounds heavier then me), it was clear how much harder it is if your client are heavy and solid. I would not have thought that I would feel that tired after only 2 mins. This will take time to practice and build up my muscles. It is also clear that getting my partner head and arms to move with the hips is hard. My partner didn’t experience tingles, but did experience some back relaxation.
Love and Light,
Hi Dodi, welcome to the Complete Thai Massage course. I read your informative bio – good to know what your background is which is very interesting, by the way.
It seems like you have it figured out, but just to make sure you have all your ducks in a row, please take a moment to familiarize yourself with our certification check list here:
I am looking forward to observing your progress with this training and assisting you whenever you need it.
I watched this video several times before I tried it on my partner. I started with the Chi Machine, which my partner likes very much to relax his low back into the floor. My partner enjoyed the first move and I felt comfortable with the sway back and forth.
Shortly after I started doing the second move and circling my body, it was clear I was doing something wrong. Then I realised that I was going clock wise. After I fixed it my breath and body circled correctly. My parter then said that he was experiencing some knee pain, so I tried to soften my approach, with no relief. So I decided to place a rolled towel under his knees and then he said it was wonderful. At the same time, I found a yoga block to place under my bum and between my thighs to comfort me and my moves became much more fluid and we both enjoyed it more.
After practicing again, this time with me on a block and him with a towel rolled under knees the whole experience was great for both of us. He asked if I needed to practice more.I am guessing that some people are going to need props due to their personal needs for their bodies. Again my parter is a male, very heavy and firm muscles, with tighness. Much different then the demo video.
Love and Light,
Actually there is a video just about using props in Thai Massage coming up later in the course. I am glad that you are creative enough to figure it out by yourself.
Yes, in the western world people are in general much heavier and stiffer than in Thailand. That’s why not every technique will work on every person. You will hear a lot about this throughout the course.
Most Thais are slim and often quite flexible. My model is the average body build for a Thai woman. However you will see that I offer many alternative ways of working with different sizes and weights of people in this course.
I enjoyed the recap of the 3rd video, it’s nice to get a re-fresher in a little faster pace to help feel the different flow of movement. I also enjoyed learning how to transition from leg to leg. I was struggling with that a little during the last video.
Personally my own heat level increased so much while working on this with my partner I had to pause and change into a t shirt. I could feel the energy start move through us both.
My partner said he is noticing a big difference in his right big toe,(from a old softball injury, he has turf toe) since I have began practicing on him, his range of motion in the toe has increased in the joint. He told me that I was getting better at the movements tonight.
May hands really started to begin to get tired tonight. My thumbs were sore. I noticed last night I practiced on my son’s smaller foot and the moves seemed much easier. My partner again is a challenge due to heaviness of leg and foot. But I think it’s a great way to learn.
Love and Light,
Dodi, as you progress through the course, you will learn that many times you can replace your hands with other body parts like forearms, elbows, knees and feet in order to take the stress off your hands. This is especially important when working on large clients or partners.
First thing is, I have been using the feet moves in my private sessions this week and my clients are loving them. It is so much easier to work on clients that aren’t as heavy as my partner.
As for the leg warm up. Moving heavy legs seem to be difficult for me and my thumbs and wrists start to get sore and worn out. I liked working on the legs but it was harder.
My partner liked all the leg work warm up, except he didn’t enjoy when I used my thumbs, he preferred me to use my palms then squeeze and roll. I have practiced this, but can tell I need more practice with the warm up so I can get better at it. It is not easy.
Love and Light,
After spending Valentine’s weekend working on my parter with the new leg massage he says I am still better at the feet. I am trying hard to practice and enjoyed 6 better then 5. I enjoyed knowing that my arms could be used instead of my tired thumbs and wrists.
Sitting in those positions are still akward when my partner is much more dense and longer then me. I was having lots of trouble with sitting under the leg and reaching the thigh. I also realized that I should not wait to practice at night, my energy may not be enough to fully make this enjoyable for my partner.
I am also finding difficulty with the transitions, they are very hard when your partner is dense and heavy. I am continuing to work on this, and plan to practice on some smaller bodies soon. So I can feel the difference. I believe the size of my partner is wearing me out before I get much into it. I know this is good experience, I just have to get further into it. I believe I am doing well with using my body weight and breathing. I am interested to know how to know that some muscles need softer touch when others need more strength.
Love and Light,
Dodi, working on a heavy and dense person is always more challenging. However the good thing is that after practicing on such a body type, most everyone else will feel really easy.
Anyway, there is lots of material coming up which will be really helpful for your situation. For example there is one module which shows an entire full body session just using your forearms.
Also if sitting under the legs of your partner is difficult for you, there are two ways to make this easier. One is to put a pillow under his hip (There is a video coming up about this later in the course).
The second method is to sit on the outside of the legs instead of between them without putting his leg over yours. So you just leave your partner’s leg on the ground and work it from the outside with your forearms. It’s not exactly the same as the techniques I show in this video, but sometimes we have to modify our approach depending on what kind of body we are working on.
And remember that the techniques are not fixed mandatory sequences, but options to choose from. There are way more techniques in this course than you will ever need in a single session, so you can always choose which ones work best for a particular client.
I enjoyed this video. I love to look at bodies and see how their bodies talk. I liked learning about the legs rolling out and how it tells you what is going on in the hips. So cool.
As for these lessons, it was clear earlier on that my partner had something going on with his right hip. Every move and position we did in this video, I had to modify it a bit. I had to use a large prop under the right knee to set it down, while working on it. I also had to use much lighter touch and barely any force. I liked the stretch that I used my feet on his thighs. It seemed so much easier then my arms.
On another note, I have figured out that the time of day or the activity I do before I do the Thai massage really has an effect on how I do and if get tired as easy.
Love and Light,
You always learn more from persons who have problems than from persons who are in excellent health. So the fact that your partner needs all kinds of modifications and adjustments is an advantage for the learning process since it forces you to adapt and come up with solutions. I have learned most of what I know from working with people who have all kinds of issues.
My partner and I enjoyed doing the calf work. He said that it felt good and I felt good doing it. As a matter of fact my partner fell deep asleep after doing this lesson.
I did have some confusion with the pie example, since my partner is large and limited range of movement it was hard for me to get the whole picture. Is the pie the hip hole and the pieces the way the toe points??
Like most lessons, the last part of this lesson was difficult. He is heavy and I did the best I could, but my position was much different. At the end I did try to use the arm under the calf but that didn’t really work for me due to the heaviness it almost hurt my back.
Love and Light,
After trying this lesson, I realised that I was doing one of the stretches wrong from Module 8. I had used my opposite leg up, so that led me to use the wrong arm on the wrong side of the his leg. So in this video I went back and did it over and then did the new stretch. It did make work better and made me understand the last lesson better.
Working with the thigh is the most difficult part for me, due to the weight of my partner. After watching your video I understand why. He is so heavy due to him being so relaxed. He truly is so relaxed that the muscles and whole leg gets so heavy while I work on him. So I guess that is good to know, but makes it very difficult for me to hold all his weight but it makes him feel so good. He fell asleep again after this lesson.
Love and Light,
Making people fall asleep is always a good sign. I love falling asleep when I get a session.
The hip pie does not correlate with the toe points. It is only a memory jogger to help you remember all the different techniques for the hip, just like the “8 ways to move a foot” from an earlier module.
If you work on someone who is much heavier than you, then you would normally do less stretching and more muscle work, and you would use your knees and feet more. However since you are in the process of learning all the techniques, you don’t have that option now. It would be great if you could practice some of those stretches on a smaller person to see how it can feel totally different depending on body type.
Later on in the course you will learn a lot more how to use various body parts to work with, and then you will have many more options available. Anyway, once you get good at this, you will pick and choose which techniques work best for certain clients and you will know to skip certain techniques if they are too hard to do on heavy clients. This will come with practice and experience.
One principle always remains – you need to make sure that your ergonomics are right and that you are working with your entire body and not with muscle power. If you use your body correctly you can work on much larger clients without wearing yourself out.
If techniques feel like a strain to you, it is almost always a sign that you are not using your body correctly. Try to polish this skill and experiment with adjusting your body position.
Module 11 will be a summary session where you will see the entire flow in action. This will help you get the “bigger picture” how to put it all together correctly.
I enjoyed learning about the energy center in the beginning. I was also nice to hear about alternative moves if client is larger then you.
I will honestly say that this was the hardest one for me to do with my partner yet. It was exhausting moving his large heavy leg. I was so uncomfortable that I needed to take breaks and my partner was not comfortable with the work either. I feel I must try this video again with a smaller partner.
I loved learning about the blood stop and why it was so important.
I felt so relieved when you said that this was the hardest part and it would get easier. It seemed like the hardest work I have done in a very long time.
Love and Light,
Dodi, from what you are telling me I am pretty sure that your ergonomics are not right and that you are not working with only body weight. None of this should be exhausting, even if you work on a bigger partner.
Here in Thailand there are tens of thousands of female therapists who are mostly quite small and weigh somewhere around 50 kg. They work on all the foreign men who are often much larger, and they often work 6-8 hours a day and sometimes even more than that.
They don’t all get exhausted because they know how to adjust their techniques and how to work with their body weight.
I don’t know how much heavier your partner is compared to you. But one thing is sure, if Thai Massage is done correctly, it should not feel like the “hardest thing you have done in a long time”.
If your partner is really large and has very heavy legs, and you are quite small, then there are certain techniques which you should just not do on such a person. How much is the weight difference between you and your partner?
Working on a lighter partner is definitely a good thing to try. Also, if you could make a little video of your practice so that I can watch what you are doing, I am sure I could figure out where the problem is.
The other thing is that later in the course you will find quite a few alternative techniques which you can use depending on what kind of body type you are working on.
I really want to get you on the right track with this – and that does not include struggling and sweating and laboring.
Shama, my partner has 10 inches and 100 pounds on me. So after practicing this over and over, I have found out the following:
1. Last time, I had muscle soreness from something else but didn’t realise it until after I did #10 Thai massage. Also I was emotionally drained due to stress. It was not a good time to do it. My energy was just not there.
2. I have discovered that there are a few things that I do need help with. Transitioning from one move to another, and changing my position while holding a leg that is at least 20 pounds of dead weight. Plus he is tight is what is causing me problems. I have found I must set the leg down, adjust myself then pick his leg up again. After practicing with a smaller partner, I did not have any problems with this)
3. During Adductor Stretch I had problems with picking up my heel and his heavy foot would fall off. I had to take his leg very far out and raise less. He liked it and said it was a very good stretch.
I enjoyed learning about the blood stop.
Love and Light,
I liked watching the whole flow. I like being able to do it with you and practice flowing from one move to the next. It just takes so much practice. I do very well with feet, ankles, knees and thighs. Once I get to upper leg and hip I start have problems due to the size and weight of his leg and by that time he is just so relaxed and seems heavier. I know I just need practice doing it just like dancing.
Moving my positions while holding his leg up and moving gracefully is an art and I am still working on it. Is setting it down and re-adjusting completely wrong if client is heavy?
PS where do we find the PDF version at?
Love and Light,
10 inches and 100 pounds is quite a big difference. So here is the thing. You are in a challenging situation. If he is the only practice partner who is easily available, you need to practice all techniques on him in order to learn them. That’s not necessarily so much fun compared to working on someone who is closer to your size.
In a real life Thai Massage session you would not do all the techniques which you are learning on the videos on someone who is so much bigger than you are. The techniques are not mandatory sequences, they are options to choose from.
Ideally you would practice some of those techniques on someone lighter, if at all possible. I don’t want you to get frustrated with your practice. Once you know all the techniques, then you can start to pick and choose according to whom you are working on. The issue is that you don’t have that luxury now since you just have to learn them all first.
And the other issue is that you are in the middle of working on all the leg techniques. They involve the most physical manipulation due to their size and weight. Most other areas are a bit easier to work on . However there will still be upper body techniques which you would just not do on someone who is much heavier than you are.
Regarding the pdf’s, I was referring to the written material from module 1. I am not sure if people would be interested in transcriptions of highly visual material of all modules. Actually I will send a survey to everyone to find out if this would be something people would find useful or not.
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