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January 23, 2020 - 8:01 pm
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I've always been drawn to rocking, vibrational, and moving techniques in massage.  I enjoy these sensations and feelings myself and the people I work on have enjoyed them too.  So I intend to expand my knowledge and practice in this area.  My partners enjoy the experiences of rocking in the ways shown such as from the hips and legs.  I definitely intend to excel in this particular type of massage movement. 

I decided to add here how I found Shama Kern's website and programs.  I was searching for healing massage techniques.  I found Mantak Chia's, "Chi Nei Tsang massage of the abdomen."  I listened to the whole large book about chi energy theory and so on.  I learned much more from some YouTube videos explaining and demonstrating abdominal massage.  I listened to another book by Gilles Marin, "Healing from Within with Chi Nei Tsang."  Not content with that, I searched some more and found Shama's teaching video on Abdominal massage.  Then I discovered that he had many more training videos.  I haven't yet purchased the abdominal massage video training; but instead I got "Complete Thai" and "Rocking" massage.  I'm interested in the healing aspects mostly.   

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Welcome to another course, Delbert.

There is a little bit of overlap between the Complete Thai Massage course and the Thai Rocking Massage courses, but the rocking course definitely adds a lot of additional material. I find the rocking motions invaluable and couldn't even imagine working without them. They are so much more graceful and elegant compared to straight linear pressure techniques.

They are also a huge improvement for many of the Thai Massage stretches. The rocking course is an excellent addition to the Complete Thai Massage course.

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Yes, as I'm taking the complete Thai massage course, the chi machine and the foot checks were already familiar to me.  I still practice the chi machine on my partner frequently though as we both enjoy it so much. 

So the practioners sideways sitting and traction of my partners hip joint by grasping the foot and rocking my hips was a new one.  The chi machine moves my client sideways and the sideways positional traction moves my partner length ways.  This is the kind of rocking stuff I like to see and learn.  My partner enjoys the benefits of the motion also.

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Rocking is so versatile - once you get good at it you will most likely come up with your own variations. This happened to me many times. It keeps expanding and growing with practice and time.

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Yes, even in swedish massage, I would employ a technique with both hands on either side of the elevated thigh, and shake the thigh muscles vigorously back and forth for a few moments.  It felt natural and good for me to do that to my client; and I always would enjoy it if someone would do that to me.  I did this out of the stroke called vibration, and expanded on that theme.  

So I practiced rocking my clients leg back and forth, stretching, and working the hip sockets on either side consecutively.  Stretching increases gradually.  The techniques requires a bit of practice to gain skill; but it comes quite naturally for me.  I always appreciate the healing side of massage, which you refer to frequently, as therapeutic value.  This excites me as I enjoy benefiting people therapeutically.   

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We think along the same lines. I have always enjoyed working on people with problems, applying and refining therapeutic skills, and observing the healing affects of this work. 

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The leg rocking and muscle pulling feels good to perform; and my partner likes it too.  I like to get into the rhythm of it and flow.  Hopefully I can make my whole Thai massage experiences with good rhythm and flow throughout.  The other two moves I experienced with the Complete Thai massage videos.  Here they were explained in more depth.  I like the concept of push pull, contraction and traction of the hips.  I can imagine doing something similar with the arm sockets.  The hip rocking motion is a special one as it really moves the chi.  

I intend to saturate my thai massage experiences with "rock and roll" moves as I really like them a lot.  As I master the various sequences and moves, I'll just use the rocking methods throughout.

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You are on the right track with your 'rock and roll' vision. That's what I have done in my work, and it has worked out great. Clients love it, and I love it too.

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As I practiced opening up and stretching the hips with the rocking leg motions, my client really enjoyed it as compared to a hard linear pressure thrust.  My favorite practiced technique in this module by far was the spinal twist rocking.  Thanks for that one.  I have to use that on about everybody I can who can benefit from it. 

Last night as I lay in bed, I practiced rocking my self to sleep so to speak.  I originated the rock from my hips while on my back or pressing and releasing on my lower shoulder while on my side.  Although not motorized or dependent on an outside source, the rocking still felt great.  It relaxed me; and put my mind in a sort of trance like daze even into the next morning.  I'm reluctant to give up that deep sense of nirvana like peace.  I like to cultivate that inner motion continuously.  I appreciate how you embody the rhythmic rocking while demonstrating your work. 

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I am so glad to have found a kindred spirit in you when it comes to the rocking!

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Wow!  This seems to be the core rocking of the entire body. Working from the center out to all the body. 

Starting at the waist, I experimented on my male client and did the different variations.  It's works good going up and down the trunk and thighs.  I liked giving the lower back and hip spinal twist rocking too; but have not yet had it done on me.   

I felt that this move from the hips is so very sensual and if not focused sufficiently on the task at hand can lead so easily to sexual feelings and even temptation.  It's mostly about our intent and focus.  Mine is essentially... Healing. 

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Exactly - if the intent is clean, the energy is clean. 

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So....I did these techniques on my partner; and he sure was surprised at hows these panned out.  I quickly explained what I was doing while lifting his buttocks onto my thighs for a rocking massage.  It's an amazing rock technique; but I'm not sure how often I would use it, especially on every massage I do.  I think it's a good back work, especially with those who have back issues.  Maybe this would assist a herniated disk to go back into place due to traction?  The one pulling the knees up and rocking them with the hands was challenging as my partner is heavy.  Lol.

The other technique is similar in action; but somewhat less provocative with the legs hanging over the thigh and the hips rocked.  My partner was okay with this one.  

The abdominal rocking went well; but I need some more practice to get a good steady rhythm.  Core work on the body center.  Love it.   

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There are several techniques that you would not do in every session. It comes down to this motto: The techniques are not mandatory sequences, but options to choose from.

Traction is definitely good for relieving pressure due to gravity or deterioration on the spinal disks. A herniated disk will not just slip back in and be fine again. It needs time to heal, but the traction can help with this process.

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Rocking both the ribs and the sternum as well as the shoulders was a new one for my partner.  He felt that they were quite good and unique.  I think these moves may help with cases of pneumonia, cough, and respiratory problems in general.  My partner enjoyed the spinal twist rocking especially. I'm glad to learn these additional tools in Thai massage.  

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I also think that the rocking moves in this module would be beneficial for problems in this area. I obviously cannot state this as a fact, but I have seen enough conditions improve that I have no doubt that this work is truly beneficial. 

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The upper body arm work went easily and well with my client.  Both rocking movements from side to side and back and forth were enjoyable to perform and to experience from my clients perspective.  When my client was stiff in the arm socket, I shook the arm a little more; and he got the point and loosened up.  The rocking itself helped to release also. 

Yeah, the visualization concepts are very helpful especially when working with a needy client who has a particular issue.  I can tell my client to imagine it getting better or as if was normal, for example.  

I really appreciated the summary sequence.  It really helps and inspires to see how it all fits together in a flowing way.  I can watch a series of sequences on YouTube; but they don't use your specialized techniques and practices; and so it's very different. 

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The rocking is something which I pioneered for Thai Massage almost 20 years ago, long before it became more popular among Thai Massage therapists. To my knowledge, this course is still the only dedicated online training course for Thai Massage rocking applications. There are other modalities which use rocking moves, but rocking has never really been part of traditional Thai Massage. That's something I have added and helped to popularize. Rocking has caught on much more in the western world than in Thailand.

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I enjoy doing the body rocking; and in this case the sacral emphasis.  My partner was still full from an earlier dinner; but he still turned over and allowed me to massage his sacram, glutes, and back with the rocking motions.  The numbering system is a good way to develop a good sense of rhythm while rocking the body. 

One of the concerns I've had with public massage over the years has been of a sexual nature.  For example: my client could possibly have an orgasm triggered or become very sexually activated, perhaps as a side effect, rather than any intent on my part.  If that were to happen and I became aware of it; I imagine that I would attempt to downplay it as an unintended side effect, and not pay it too much attention, yet being sympathetic and caring.     

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I have never heard of or seen a massage client having an orgasm during a session. I doubt that this is even possible.

I have seen women getting emotionally attached to a male therapist during a session (or any other combination of client-therapist), and I have seen men getting involuntary erections due to all this movement in Thai Massage.

Although such incidents have been quite rare in my own practice, they can happen, and we have to deal with them. In the case of men getting an erection, this is a well-known phenomenon and typically massage therapists (male or female) just disregard it as a harmless physiological function. In most cases the man is terribly embarrassed about it and never wanted it to happen in the first place. If there is a sexual intent behind the erection, then this is another story, however.

In the case of someone getting emotionally attached to a therapist - this is an illusion by the client who only sees and feels the wonderful massage touch and identifies this with the person without knowing the rest of the person. This can be counteracted by acting professionally and not reacting to verbal cues. 

I have had all these things happen to me in my practice over the years, but fortunately very rarely. It was never a big issue for me. The way you described how you would react if this would ever happen to you sounds perfectly good and appropriate to me.

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