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I am a new student. I really enjoyed the video about evaluation techniques fit the hip. I appreciate very much the simple way you explain evaluation both visually and. Manually.  

I practiced the technique on my husband this evening.  He has major recurring issues with the hips from years of injuries. 

Many of the tips you gave I have visually observed with him for years. I was able to get a little relaxation in the hip joints. He also suffers from rotation in the pelvic area.

I look forward to the techniques you will teach to establish balance in this area. He continually has one hip that rides high soon after therapy of any kind. Hopefully this will help to find stability for him. 

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Hi Darlene, welcome to our forum and to the Thai Hip Massage certification program. Please take a few moments and familiarize yourself with our certification checklist to make sure that it is all correctly organized:

Certification Checklist

A couple of things were not set up correctly, like you had posted your thread in the wrong forum, your topic title did not include your name or the name of your course, and the module number was not mentioned in your post. However I fixed all these things for you, and now it is set up correctly. Just follow the format here and make sure to add new posts by clicking on "Add Reply", NOT on "Add Topic".

I also suggest that you re-watch the certification tutorial video so that this all makes more sense to you:

Certification Tutorial

It seems that you already have the perfect candidate to put this course to the test and to good use with your husband. I am sure he will appreciate it.

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I just wanted to reply and let you know I needed at least my iPad instead of just the phone. It doesn't show enough on the phone. 

I watched the video again as far as assessment.  Neither one of my husbands feet fall out to a 45 degree angle.  His left hip is rotated forward even to just the eye. I can't get either foot to rotate medial without much tension.  The pelvic region is extremely immobile.  I really can't get a smooth rotation of either hip joint. 

I really hope this will work for him. 

When my husband and and I were in Placencia, Belize we came across a master in Thai massage. I knew nothing about this therapy, but I was told she was very good. I was having a big shoulder problem. We were both very impressed when we were done with our therapy. 

I am retired, but keep my license. I only take CEUs that I feel will really help me and ones I know. I feel though retired this will still be a very valuable thing for me To learn even if only to help family and friends. It will be worth all I do if it only helps my husband. I am so glad I found your site. 

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Yes, I would think that you can see it better on a larger screen like your iPad.

If someone's hip is significantly locked up, you might have to work on it with lots of rocking and loosening up techniques. This will take repeated and regular work. However I am sure that you can greatly improve your husband's hip mobility with regular application of these techniques.

Also I agree, even if you only work on friends and family, specialized training like this is well worth it - even if you would only help one person, especially if it is a very important person in your life.  Often this can be the best present we can give - the gift of healing, relaxing, improving long-term conditions, and helping people feel better. 

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Thanks very much for the tip. I can't find where I go to take the test. I need to take it Module 2 is here. 

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Module 2

I appreciated very much the various rocking techniques.  I understand how important bus is for the therapist and the client. It really goes along with the natural rhythm in the body of the flow of the  cranio-sacral fluid. There is nothing more relaxing than rocking from a baby on throughout life even in a swing or rocking chair. 

The pressure in the joint and down the quadricep gently but with intent not only moves he muscle but also the joint. This rocking motion should help a client to achieve a very relaxed state mind and body to help the body naturally release. 

I found in working on my husband with these techniques that while his pelvis is almost immobile on its own with a little encouragement to the muscle and joints there was a degree of fluidity while I was encouraging the proper muscle and joint movements. 

I am really enjoying the course because the techniques I specialize in are all about feeling and working with the body not commanding the body to do what you want it to do but allow it to return to a healthy or healthier state. 

Thanks for your help. 

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There is a link in the certification section of your course manual to access the test questions. Or you can link to it from here (same link):

Thai Hip Therapy CE Test Questions

I am glad to hear that you are enjoying the course! Smile

Please make sure to put the module number on top of all your posts so that it is obvious which course module you are writing about. I have added the module numbers in for you for the first two modules. Please keep doing that to keep things organized. Smile

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I didn't find these methods as conducive to my way of working. I also didn't find that my husbands muscles responded as well to these techniques. I might just need to work with them a little more in order to be comfortable with them. Then my husband might also respond better to them. I find the rocking techniques to be the best for him at this point not saying it won't change but this part is more challenging at the moment for me. 

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You might warm up to these techniques over time. And if not - just don't do them. There are plenty of techniques in this course to choose from, and they might not all be a perfect fit for you. Nothing wrong with that! We all have our preferences.Smile

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Thanks very much for your honesty.  I think you are correct. I did appreciate the stretches very much. I understand how  the stretches compliment the evaluation performed in the beginning. I can see how many of  the same restrictions seen in the evaluation  are duplicated in the stretches. I appreciate the attitude you have and present in the therapies you teach to allow the body to gently achieve range of motion using the energy fields in the body. This compliments the cranial sacral work I have specialized in for years. I have found my husbands restrictions are responding to the rocking and stretches. 

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Good to hear that about your husband!

As you can tell, I don't like rigid rules and rigid sequences. For me it is more about observing, feeling, sensing, and reacting to a client's needs. I see Thai Massage as an intuitive process. The sequences are good for learning it, but ultimately we have to learn to be artists and not massage mechanics. Then we will be so much more effective.

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Module 5

i am so happy I came across your therapies. I to work very much by the rhythm of The body. I really do appreciate these stretching techniques.  They are so gentle and body friendly. With all of them I find the  tightness in the pelvic area. While all of them seem to cause some discomfort for my husband I find some degree of tension release as we are working. I really appreciate the way you show to block or brace the body as you are performing the stretches. These therapies I think will compliment everything imhave been using to treat. Thanks a lot. 

 

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i am really finding the stretches done in such a gentle manner a real asset in the treatment of the hip. While many of the stretches still show a large amount of restrictions in the entire hip area I find much relaxation in all this area. I think all of these will be a large help to achieve stability in the hip area. 

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I am happy to hear that you resonate with the course material. Many Thai Massage therapists apply stretches in an intense and sometimes even brutal way, but I have never believed in the no-pain-no-gain philosophy. The body will open up if you approach it in a gentle way, and it will resist if you come on too strong. It seems we are on the same wavelength in this regard! Smile

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Shama said
I am happy to hear that you resonate with the course material. Many Thai Massage therapists apply stretches in an intense and sometimes even brutal way, but I have never believed in the no-pain-no-gain philosophy. The body will open up if you approach it in a gentle way, and it will resist if you come on too strong. It seems we are on the same wavelength in this regard! Smile  

Absolutely I have always been taught the body knows what to do we just have to assist it and help it move toward that healthier state. 

I am very pleased with your course. I believe I can even adapt some of them to self help with stretches.  I have done that with many of the cranial techniques that no one thought you could perform on your self. No you can’t relax all of your body as you could if someone else was working on you but I think it will work. 

I have tried a couple of the stretches on my husband. I like it that you can proceed very quickly or adjust the pace to the client or to how they are feeling at the time of therapy. I have found with your techniques if I can get my husband to relax first in his mind then I can actually get the muscle to stretch in a much more relaxed manner this a much better stretch and not cause as much discomfort to the area. I definitely find that the rocking motions all help tremendously.  Just like rocking a baby you comfort the core and spinal area and the muscles seem to melt.  Great techniques 

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Interesting that you mention that you first get your husband to relax in his mind.  This is something which I have used a lot on very stiff clients who have lots of resistance in a particular place. I don't do this on all clients, but in some cases I have them visualize relaxation, or I get them to breathe into the joint (for example), and I have them visualize a greater range of motion than before. I have had very good results with this method. 

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Module 8

this is very interesting and very productive without a lot of insult to the therapists body. I appreciate going from the hip stretches to more spot specific areas.  I appreciate the he way you use many techniques to reevaluate or evaluate the area in the beginning even in these spot specific regions. I like it very much that you don't have a specific sequence for every patient or therapist. I have found that I like to be able to vary the techniques or shown or mis stretches with softening and loosening techniques.  As always good material and very good training methods. Thanks again my husband is benefiting a lot. 

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Thanks Darlene. Yes, rigid sequences don't work well for therapeutic work. We just have to listen to the body via our hands and then do what's needed.

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Module 9

This is all good work. I am experiencing how I though small can use my entire body weight in a selective manner to get into the larger more dense muscles in a very gentle manner.  It's kind of like sneaking up on the muscle and going deeper and deeper layer by layer in a very gentle non aggressive manner. I like that I can save my fingers, hands, and wrists and not have to sacrifice my joints for he benefit of the client. My husband has been a very good model to use on this class. I am very excited to still see the next two segments.  Thanks again. 

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That's tbe biggie right there - not sacrificing your own health for the benefit of the client. You can do this with Thai Massage more easily than with most other massage styles. 

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Shama said
That's tbe biggie right there - not sacrificing your own health for the benefit of the client. You can do this with Thai Massage more easily than with most other massage styles.   

Module 10

i appreciate very much how you show to work on such areas as the the extremely large muscles as the glutes and quads.  These are extremely large muscles to get relaxed with all the bracing and guarding as you pointed out. I appreciated the measures you demonstrated to manipulate these areas and work around bracing and guarding the client sets up in their mind.  Thanks Very helpful

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