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Conor Hogan`s Complete Thai Massage Course
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November 13, 2014 - 1:02 am
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You got some great feedback from this boy - congratulations! Fine tuning stretches and adapting them to each client is an art that develops more and more with practice. You seem to be well on the way though!

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Module 23:

 

I love your reference to the original tail. I try to think of the sacrum as the base of the bridge. In that all back pain like all weight going over the bridge pressurise the sacrum. I`m so glad you covered this area, I’ve never heard of it being massaged I’ve only come across it in one area of yoga where the theory is that the sacrum shape changes as we age. So the health of it is so important for all over posture and thus health. I like this definition also. I’ve also dislocated the hips and SI joint many times due to a certain condition.

The sacrum rocking today produced great relief to an older client. After wards we discussed it and I explained I knew by lying in bed on my back that sometimes it feels like slotting in and out in a clicking motion if I wake after a sleep and it’s been dislocated, the patient as she felt and kind of heard a click during the rocking though she never had pain before or after the massage there.

I wonder if bone setting or manipulations of joints putting them back into place like a chiropractor is possible in any Thai massage technique?Confused

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Actually there are some Thai Massage practitioners who do something like Chiropractic moves. Back cracking techniques are quite common in Thai Massage. I do them, however I don't teach them in this course since if you don't do them correctly, you can hurt people.

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In this module I was fortunate enough to have a client that had been doing a lot of upper body weights. He said that he had been working on his strength for months now as he had joined a weightlifting club and wanted to bulk up. Generally I found him very stiff and we chatted about the overall condition he felt he was in. He thought that both has strength and bulk had increased a lot in the past couple of months. He also noted that he rarely stretched much bu t that he did hydrate a lot.

When wiggling his back I found it difficult to get any elasticity in his muscles. They seemed so tort and lacking the ability to simply wiggle. Afterwards he said he felt tired and that each movement in his back felt challenging as he was so tort.

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"Bulking up" is not exactly the healthiest thing for the body, unless it is mixed with a healthy dose of stretching or yoga. Without that you can end up big and strong and stiff, not an ideal condition...

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I had always used fingers, thumbs and my hands in general on people`s backs and despite being told that I was very good at it, I was finding it very wearing and tiresome. In fact after each massage I needed a hand massage and even my wrists and forearms would become very tight.

By keeping my arms a little bit back and knees bent I feel that my shoulders are taking the musculature effort in the rocking motion. As these shoulder muscles are bigger and stronger muscles for me and for people in general I felt that this tip really helped me today and allowed me to regulate my pressure and massage technique.

Finding the exact spot for my leaning of my elbows was not hard in so far as i did not find it difficult to avoid the spine. What I did find difficult was after I traced the g5rove with my fingers that it was tricky to keep that grove point with the elbow has the elbow has no nerve endings to feel it constantly. This will take more practice.Confused

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November 21, 2014 - 1:09 pm
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In some people the groove is not very pronounced and it is hard to stay in there with the elbow. This works best on people with muscular backs.

In Thai Massage, there is no need to ever wear out your hands and fingers. When you are through with the Complete Thai Massage course, you will get a bonus course with dozens of ways how to use other body parts.

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Module 26:

I have played a lot of sport involving using sticks and intricate wrist , finger nad hand work from a young age .I am aware of the muscles wearing in those area or being over used. I have particular antagonist stretching that I use for the hands and wrists which works very well. However it was great to get your take on it her e for the most critical of all places which causes so many so much pain , the lower back.

I used your techniques and really enjoyed it. And I Felt I did not need the hands stretching after 40 or so minutes at all. I fee o my own hips have loosened from working on the ground and opening my own hips and I`m not as clumsy around the clients body.

The horse galloping rhythm really helped the client I had today also. She works in an office and I will mention her more in the next module 27. She has problems in her sitting during office work .It seems he posture is under constant pressure at the computer all day. She felt so generally relaxed and felt that the galloping motion really gave her a sense of elasticity in the larger muscles of the back!

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I love this module, it reminds me of all the de stressing I’ve had from so many Thai massages. The shoulder blade massaging and the arm behind the back is really good and I know how the top for the shoulder blade and neck can be released if done correctly.

I concentrated on a person who had office stress from a draft coming to the side of their shoulder blade and it was obvious today that I was not able to bend their arm up as far from this draft exposure. Still I’m glad I noticed this!Wink

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It's a fact that working on the floor helps us staying in touch with our own bodies more since we have to learn how to move around gracefully. Personally I enjoy the feeling of using my own body in the most advantageous way and doing it in a comfortable and flowing way.

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Module 28:

It`s great to have this recap module. To be able to see the pacing and the flexibility of the variety of co-ordinated stretches together. It struck me when looking at today`s video for the triangle stretch that by bending the leg diagonally and the inside heal onto the opposite straight leg that this not only safe ( as the straight leg is acting as a pillow), but that it seems like such a natural flexion. After all, if we were standing we`d be able to kick our bent leg to the back of our standing   straight leg. So being able to bend and then flex it over to the other leg makes perfect natural anatomical sense.

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Module 29:

A couple of days ago I was massaging using the knowledge that I learned from this module.  The person was wearing a silky tracksuit bottom. When using the side position the massage went well but the person complained after that there was uncomfortable chaffing going on when I sat on their thigh. They said that they enjoyed the “ slow release “ they felt when I was sitting there and that momentarily they breathed more erratically but that soon after I sat they just accepted my weight and that’s when the release began. I think this was a nice way that they explained it and it really helped me to learn about the position.

 

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Today I used these videos contents on a client. The spinal twist rocking motion was every well accepted by 2 clients. Both said that it was quite relaxing and that it allowed them to have a feeling of weightlessness and just giving in to the me, the therapist. I felt that it was a much easier with light hands when they allowed me to dictate the twist and that there was much less stress or tightness in the muscles and over all it was easier to accomplish.

 

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 Along with module 30 I used this module today also. It was interesting how the older man accepted the 1-10 description on how to describe their level of comfort/ discomfort. The feedback was very good and I feel I`m getting better at communicating with clients also.

In the full rotation of the shoulder one young client reported a clicking sound that they never really felt before. They said my massage was good and that it loosened their shoulder but that the never noticed this slight clicking before. They said that it didn’t bother or pain them though. I found this interesting. I wasn’t quite sure what the clicking was though I presume it was a very tight shoulder just loosening up.

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It really sounds like your are doing a good job with your Thai Massage skills. You seem to be confident and effective according to your client feedback. I am glad to see you progress nicely!

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Module 32:

 I had a person who I have massaged many times today .The have felt much loosening in all area of their body up up until now but they said today was very unusual for them as when I used the “lift, pull” technique after 15:55 seconds in this module`s video they felt a pop. I did not feel this popping motion but I did hear clicking. Never the less the client said they felt wonderfully open and freer afterwards and said that he had been doing a lot of tennis and this was their forehand arm and they felt as if even raising the hand above the shoulder was now much easier.

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Clicking or popping is something that can occur. With some people it happens very easily, with others not at all. When it happens in the spine, like with spinal twists, it generally feels like a good release. Normally there is nothing to worry about.

However there are cases where clicking indicates something to be careful about. One example is when you manipulate the ankle, and there are clicking sounds and it feels like gravel in the joint. Also clicking in the shoulder joint can be painful in some cases. It comes down to how the client feels about it. 

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Module 33:

 This is a great position with a great technique! I love this position. This I used this position with a guy that has been coming into me since the start of this course. He does a lot of computer work and sitting at a desk and loved the move that is in this video at around 15 minutes into the video. He told me he felt a real massage that he had tried to do many times when he’s sits by the computer himself. He told me that now he will be jealous when he`s in his office and he get cramped in his seat that he`ll be looking to have me behind him!

Of course he does not have near the flexibility of the girl in the module`s video and like you said, he had to start out with his body “ a little bit leaning forward”. In fact by using his hands I was essentially balancing him as he was naturally and inflexibly forward.

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It seems like you are making a name for yourself already with your Thai Massage! I hope many people will get addicted to your skills. Smile

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Module 34:

This is traction move is a really good move. I have a person who is really used to playing a lot of tennis. They found this move really lengthening for their shoulders and upper back- their lattimus dorsi area. They said that their only problem was that as they could not comfortably sit cross legs position that they felt a bit uncomfortable trying to get the best position on the ground. I wonder is there a few more options?

The second move was a real chest opener and they responded that they felt challenged in the first minute or two but felt awake afterwards.

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After watching the communication module I wonder is there a set amount of time out of the session of Thai massage that ought to be allocated

For the introductory client communication? So, out of one hour or so is there 5% or 20% of the time that should be allocated to explain the techniques, or is it better to have a question and answer session to allow the person to become completely comfortable before beginning?

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Regarding the traction move - yes there all all kinds of options. Actually I have recently made a video just about that. It's not totally ready yet, but I will send out an email about it very soon.

Regarding the communication question - I have always worked for myself as a massage therapist, and I was never very strict with my time, meaning I just chatted with the client without worrying about being on the clock. I generally did not include my chat time in the session time.

If you work on a tight schedule, or you work in a spa, you cannot do that and you have to keep the questions to a minimum. Personally I treated the questions as a free client service, and I often enjoyed chatting with clients and getting to know them.

I don't expect anyone else to follow my example, but that's how I handled it throughout my entire career.

Also, for your certificate, could you please give me the right spelling of your first and last name. When you originally filled out your registration form, there were letters or rather additions to them which I cannot duplicate on the certificate.

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