July 4, 2016
Interesting first module. I am excited to see that one of my favorite massage techniques is used in Thai massage (compression) and am excited to see that I will also have two new tools in this style of massage as well, now included: knees and feet! I still remember learning regular massage how my body first at felt as I adjusted, interested to see how my body will adjust with the new positions required in Thai massage, the sitting on heels, this was not too bad sitting short term, half kneeling was good too although will be working on my balance, was good with the squatting and sitting, off to a good start and thankfully I have good knees!
Welcome to the Complete Thai Massage course and our forum.
The non-hand work is one of the big factors which makes Thai Massage more therapist friendly than most other modalities which rely primarily on the hands.
I am glad to hear that you are off to a good start!
Also please take a moment and familiarize yourself with our certification check list:
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July 4, 2016
Ok, so I have watched the video several times and have had an opportunity to work on 2 different people, as well as be worked on and enjoyed the chi machine. I definitely will need to do the daily exercises to stretch and loosen my quads and get my feet use to the sitting position. I loved the example of the Thai massage stretch! I was amazed how wonderfully deep of a stretch I could get and give with such little effort! I did this with 3 different people with no problems! Love using the body weight vs muscle power! Am looking forward to receiving the next module.
It sounds like you have a good practice setup if you can practice on more than one person and if you get to receive it yourself. That puts you way ahead of many course students who only have one practice partner and are lamenting that they cannot receive it.
As mentioned in my email - make sure to only click on "Add Reply", not on "Add Topic".
July 4, 2016
Yes, I asked if they would be willing to reciprocate, as it helps to know what is being experienced personally. I have a friend who went half way through a massage program years ago and so she is interested in it as well. I'm hoping as she goes along in helping me, it will inspire her also to take and complete the course and later come on board when I expand my business.
So, I am confused on something. This thread is where I am suppose to post my module notes? I started to, but then read something which said if I was doing the ce certification I was suppose to do the notes on the video forum, which is why I switched. my heavens, Im so not a techy, but tonight was able to find things much better.
July 4, 2016
Ok, yes, I now understand how to navigate the forum and do the posting, yeah! I enjoyed this module and practice a lot. It was difficult getting the sequence down and I will continue working on it and the not looking at notes and I'm sure it will become more natural with time and more practicing. I came up with "out, in, bow, straddle, circle/pull and boppidy bop" to remember the sequencing for now, lol. I absolutely loved how the foot inversion/eversion affected loosening my hips! I love hip work and in western massage, we use bolsters and I'm seeing bolstering people has inhibited my ability to get this deep hip rotation going on. I will definitely be using less of my bolster from now on. My partner felt it more in her tibialis muscles, so it was interesting to note, this can also be great as an evaluation move. Just these movements can tell me if the person has hip tightness or not. I also felt amazing relief after the session. I did experience a little discomfort initially on my low back, as I have a big bum, so the back arch bothered me, I tried using a pillow to see if that helped but it didn't so I removed it, but all in all, it was worth the little discomfort to receive the relief in hips and there was no residual pain in low back afterwards. Happy to note, we both transitioned well when it came to sliding our leg under the clients and was not hard as we had imagined it would be. We both agreed we love the push pull on the leg part best I found this work very therapeutic and my partner found it wonderfully relaxing. on another note, Im still practicing the sitting technique 10 minutes daily besides just during working on videos as my quads are pretty tight and my friend and I are also going to start a beginners yoga class on Mondays and Sundays, looking forward to seeing how that goes, as several of my clients go to this particular yoga instructor and have heard great things about her.
blessings to your day Shama and thanks for the great videos and course study set up,
You will be very pleasantly surprised when you get to the next module because it contains a very useful system for remembering the foot sequence.
I am glad to hear that practicing the techniques helps your own body. Thai Massage has a way of improving the flexibility of the therapist as well.
Good that you found your groove with the forum posting.
July 4, 2016
I was surprised to see a second part to the foot work, as I thought the bottom of the foot would be addressed lying prone, lol. I really like how Thai massage addresses the foot work so thoroughly, as it does affect so much of the body. I must say in Western massage, we do not seem to address the tops of the feet and so I really enjoyed and was surprised at how pleasant this was, very relaxing. I definitely was trying to learn the sequence, but now have done the massage several times going by the concept of all the various ways the foot can move and have a better feel for it now and it is not so choppy. The kneading of the foot was a new and pleasant way of addressing foot work and I've already began incorporating many of the techniques in my table massage work.
July 4, 2016
You hit ADD TOPIC instead of ADD REPLY, and that's why you opened a new thread and your post became disconnected from your thread. However I moved it for you, so now it is in the right place. Just make sure to label your posts with the module number so that it's clear which module you are referring to.
Actually I know why this post is not labeled - you did label it, but that became the top title in the new thread. When I moved it, only the post text came over. I will fix it for you.
Technology is great, but when you get tangled up in it, watch out!
July 4, 2016
July 4, 2016
I have found it very difficult finding a LMT that does abdominal and glute work here, we learned very little in the schooling here unfortunately in these areas. I developed my own routine for glutes, as I need this work and knew my clients do also, I do this over the sheet and is very effective. This is yet another reason I like the Thai option, as its done over clothing so it takes the aspect of comfortableness away when needing to address the "off limit" areas that seem to be in western massage. I did not like receiving nor doing abdominal massage in school and yet after self studying more about it, and coming across a client who truly needed this, it is one of my favorite things to receive and do. I have found I do not do groin work, as without clothing on, it gets into personal space Id rather not go lol, however I have had sports enthusiast that need more work and have managed to do work over a sheet, mostly compression, will be nice to have other tools available to address this.
July 4, 2016
Just finished watching the Module 5 video and can't wait to start practicing this. My only concern initially after watching this, is the leaning in with the arm, etc as a women and the "girls" getting in the way lol, will be interesting to see how to adapt the positioning to compensate for them. Wondering if anyone else has had any issues with this and how they compensated, will go look at peoples course notes and see in a bit.
July 4, 2016
So, for this module, I worked on my husband whose body is quite different from my other female volunteers. Flexibility was definitely needed as well as intuition as to adapt to his particular limitations (he is not very flexible and has tree trunk legs, they are huge!) I was glad he agreed to assist as I started from module one for extra practice and the bending the feet out quickly found his right hip was quite limited in movement and will be working on him a few days to help correct that. I had a bit of difficulty in the breathing out as I leaned in, as I was wanting to do the opposite, it it ok to change this? It definitely helps in keeping a slow, even pace by adjusting it to the breathe.
My husbands legs are large, but short, so the butterfly technique I did twice up, then stopped short to avoid personal space. I did go up further with left hand to cover more of the outside of leg/hip. (Side note: I think this will be important to know intuitively who might be comfortable and who is not so comfortable, when in the more "personal spaces" and to adjust to their comfort level. Thinking it would be good to review areas worked on prior to massage also, just so people know and not caught off guard as well. I've found some people who really need psoas work and I've approached what the work entails and people are very apprehensive at first, but, if are willing and can relax, it is so helpful. I will apply the same approach when explaining the Thai massage for first timers, so they realize more areas covered and better overall effects.)
I love all the great positioning for stabilization, hoping this becomes more natural, it took a bit of practice figuring out where and how to put my foot to stabilize the leg to do the butterfly technique my first 2-3 practices. I had to use pillows this time for hubby when positioning at the 90 degree angle, he definitely needed pillows! After I got the positioning right he relaxed and enjoyed the kneading. I personally like the rolling and pull up technique best, feels great! Ive been working on our rug at home and looking forward to getting my tatami tiles in soon, I'm sure that will help as well.
Regarding your comments on glute work - this is one of the big things that make Thai Massage advantageous. It can be done through the clothes which makes "intimate" moves less intimate. In the western world therapists often hesitate to touch people's abdomen, glutes, groins, and chest. This is unfortunate since there is a lot of therapeutic potential lost that way. You will hear more about this in later videos.
About your concern of leaning in with the arms in module 5 - I have no idea what the issue might be, honestly. There is no intimacy involved, and nothing gets in the way. What do you see as the issue here?
Regarding the breath - breathing out while leaning in and breathing in while leaning out is definitely the correct way, at least in my experience. However if this feels wrong for you, experiment with both ways and see which one you end up feeling more comfortable with. I don't like setting up rigid rules.
Regarding the "personal space" - here in Thailand this is never considered a big issue. Western therapists tend to have a much bigger issue with it. However I can tell you from my experience of doing Thai Massage work for many years on western clients, that clients don't have nearly as much of a problem with this as you might think.
If you are professional and have clean energy, people pick up on this and don't find it strange if you work on all areas of the body excluding obvious zones like breasts, penis and vagina. However you don't have to create a large margin of "safety" around those areas either. If your intent is to help people with their aches and pains, you will sometimes need to work on areas like the groins, as you will see in later videos. But we will cross that bridge when we get to it!
July 4, 2016
My concern in leaning in is, that my hubby has BIG legs and I am endowed, so my concern is about leaning in and my breast being on his or a clients leg. I practiced with him, and blocked my breast being on his leg by using my other hand on his leg, so they hit my hand vs his leg. This wont be a problem with every client, but with bigger legged clients. Will be an interesting journey seeing these other videos, and introducing Thai massage in my little community and seeing how receptive people are towards it. I so agree on the professionalism and clean energy, it definitely helps!
July 4, 2016
I think this was my husbands favorite module/practice. He said I have the sinking in and pressure down well. I realized I do need to slow it all down though and get in tune to working with the breathe, this has not come naturally as of yet, but, I will get there. I am loving all this fantastic hip loosening myself! I enjoyed the break from using my fingers and hands as well. I did find myself shifting to use arm power vs weight and had to stop myself several times, so Ill be practicing this one much more than the others. I was able to move around comfortably and noticed my quads have become much more flexible. The positioning and working on the sen lines flowed nicely.
You might find that most clients have their eyes closed and if your breast touches the leg, it is just a non-issue, unless you make it one in your mind. After all, the client is fully dressed, and you are fully dressed.
Working slowly is better than working quickly in most cases. You can ruin the best massage by hurrying through it, plus you lose your sensitivity if you rush.
You are in for a treat with lots of excellent hip work coming up!