Hi Cheryl, welcome to our forum and the Thai Hip Therapy course. This course will take you much deeper than general Thai Massage training, so it will definitely be a ‘next step’.
And one question – are you posting just for the interaction, or are you doing it for a certificate?
Thank you for your welcome! I am posting for the certificate – and cec’s! I am very excited to learn more Thai massage techniques – my background is that of a Personal Trainer – with lots of anatomy knowledge. Learning to apply that with feeling my clients through Thai Massage is the next step.
Module 1 was a great reminder of the anatomy – love the 2 methods discussed for identifying restrictions in the hip. Noticing the feet position is also very handy – as I have done this many times in my Yoga practice (I am also a yoga instructor!)
You have the perfect background for Thai Massage, being a yoga teacher and personal trainer.
One thing: I never saw your certification registration – either you didn’t send it in or it disappeared somewhere in cyber space. Could you please send in this form. We need it for our certification records. The access link to the registration form is in your course manual.
Once you submit this form, you will be forwarded to the certification tutorial. I can give you the short version here:
Please make sure to read it and follow the guidelines in there, like labeling each post with the module number, and using your actual name as your user name and the topic title. Otherwise I have to play detective and figure out who is who and what is where.
Actually the best way to answer the test questions is while you are working on a particular module. The answers are all clearly spelled out in the videos. If you wait until the end, you will have to re-watch all the videos to find the answers. So I suggest you sign up for the test questions now to make it as easy and convenient as possible.
Module 2 Hip Rocking Techniques
Knowing hip pain myself – I found this module to be quite helpful! The technique described is actually very familiar to me – we did a lot of this type movement in my Basic course. However, knowing what needs to be done and actually doing it on someone is very different. I found the variable pressure easy – but to combine it with moving the leg takes more practice. My husband is getting a lot of attention these days. And he is very critical – so that is good as well.
After assessing what is going on with the hip -setting yourself up in the correct position is also critical so you don’t upset the flow. I’m sure this will take some time to develop. Also – working with men and women – learning the different techniques is very helpful. My husband actually liked the foot on the hip crease – better than than hand.
Finding proper body mechanics is key.
(I did take your advice and start the test…. Thank you for clueing me in on that!)
I completed the 40 hour course through Thai Institute of Healing Arts in Arlington, VA with Steve Brown.
Module 3 Hip Joint Pressure Techniques – discovering the other methods of using pressure to work with the hip problems. Gentle arm rolls – layouts and moving across the muscle is very effective. Knowing how much pressure is the key – and watching and listening to your client is helpful. Using other parts besides just the hands is also good body mechanics for taking care of our bodies as well.
I like the way you tied in the holistic part of what we do too – the movement of energy – blocked and stuck energy and how it effects the muscle. Freeing up this blockage creates better function of the muscle.
Module 4 – The Hip Pie
Very visual and very helpful to understand how to break down the stretching part of the hip. Once the areas of trouble are identified – you can begin to move the leg through the “pie” and work with pressure and rocking if necessary to stretch the muscle. It was very helpful to see the positions used when working with more flexible and less flexible clients. Also good to see the use of the arm rolls and roll outs and foot work for clients as well. I have a few Light weight clients and a few who I can definitely see me using this foot work with.
I met the owner of the Thai Institute Of Healing Arts here in Chiang Mai a few years ago. If I remember correctly, he is married to a Thai woman.
Without the holistic part Thai Massage is just a sequence of mechanical moves. The holistic elements are what turns it into a healing art.
Thai Institute offers an advanced course in Thailand – month of January…. tempting!
More slicing of the Pie.. A reminder that this is used therapeutically – and not to be done without observing what the client needs is a good one. I was especially drawn to this particular piece of the pie because my adductors are very sensitive – and tight. As a runner – even if I stretch – it seems this area doesn’t get the love it needs. I can see that the larger the client is – the more methods of working this part of the pie is. I have found myself using the finger tip circling as a beginning method of figuring out what is going to be most effective.
The blood stop technique – well – at first I thought I would never do this – then after watching the video a couple of times – think that I will be able to do this – and will try it on myself first.
The videos are great to go back and to watch – I have found myself doing this several times.
Module 6 – slice #5
The basic Thai massage stretch may be too much for tight clients – starting with a rocking movement will be best to decipher how much you will be able to get from this client. There are several positions for the therapist to choose from to get the best position for the client. It’s always good to observe how your client is feeling the stretches so you know how far to go. Knowing how to correct my body posture for the type of client I am working with will give the client a better stretch.
I like the both leg option because it does work with all flexibility’s and it’s a great transition move to Pie slice # 6.
Module 7 – Slices 6 & 7 & 8
Making the way around the hip – heading across the body to the opposite shoulder. A very painful stretch for most people – you should stick with the rocking movement – side to side, rocking circular. Slice #7 you may need to go to the other side of the client using my body to help secure my clients. Coming another 45 degrees – (working at 3 o’clock on a clock) again a very powerful movement. Rocking and moving slowly is best.
Slice #8 is also one which can be very uncomfortable for clients. Using your forearm – you can do forearm rotations – which may take several times to get it right. There is also one more movement which combines slices 3,4, 5 and 6. You are actually circling counter clockwise – slowly and moving through all the slices.
Module 8 – Working the Sides
As you requested – more practical notes from the modules. I find working the sides of the hips and the techniques described with the hands very practical and easy to apply. My husband is my “go to” person to try these techniques. He’s not a fan of the elbow – loved the galloping methods. Finding the spot of most resistance is usually easy for me to find. I have a few yoga clients with piriformis syndrome – who I have used circling method with my hands stacked and the butterfly methods.
Module 9 – More working sides
Again I will be doing most of the practice with my husband. He is the most forgiving… and he really loved the pressure from using the knee… which I also found to be more successful in working the knots. I am sure this will get better with the more people that i work with. He told me that I got the “variable pressure” down …no problem there. It actually feels very natural for me.
Moving into the prone position – is a bit awkward – and moving in that close to the client will take some more practice with doing it on the ones that know me better. This is always the hardest for me – getting comfortable working that close with people.
This is an interesting topic. Thailand is much more of a non- touch culture than America or Europe. However during Thai Massage, where there is lots of body contact, all those rules are suspended. Nobody thinks that this body contact is strange in any way. It’s just accepted as the way how Thai Massage is done.
This section has some great hip flexor and glute stretches that are so useful! I enjoyed trying the glute stretch (hands around knee and lean over, pull back) slowly at first and then picked up the pace a bit. This can be done comfortably for most of my clients – and gives them the traction that they like.
Working prone is more difficult with larger clients – in my basic Thai course we used knee flexion – scooped under the knee – held the foot down with the hand and using the clients breath – lifted the leg slightly off the floor – repeated a few times. I have a few clients who can’t flex their knees that much and I ended up using your method – which worked much better.
I agree totally that it is all about the power of softness. Giving the client an experience using fluid movements and moving in a progression that is good for the client needs is what it is all about. It is my goal to move in fluid waves and progression. The last two sessions that I did I felt more confident in what I was doing – and I struggled a bit less.
I enjoyed watching you putting it all together – and when I practiced felt it made more sense to me. I have a lot of clients that have hip issues – which is why I wanted to take this course.
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