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Candace Mickens
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Shoulder Therapy Module 1

My client was very large and had very large breasts..so it felt very awkward  when trying to straddle the body to work with both shoulders at the same time. It just wouldn’t work without being too close. It also was challenging with using just one hand as I tried the figure 8 but was at least able to get a shoulder stretch and I was able to do some trapezius lifting up on one side using two hands…

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Shoulder Therapy Module 2

Again I had a very large client over 200 lbs and male. Purely solid.  I only used individual shoulder techniques…  The use of the forearm worked well sinking deep through pec major to pec minor.  Also the move where I could lift the shoulder up onto my leg and do circling motions on the traps.. The client also liked the two hands in opposite direction on the traps / shoulder stretch…sorry can’t recall the name of the exact movement and I kind of modified it do the size…

 

I’m so happy with all of these shoulder options as I have never been able to really address the shoulders in my sessions while the client was in supine position and so many people here in the US sitting at desks need this work.  Thank you.

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Welcome back to another course, Candace! I am glad to hear that you can fill a gap with the techniques in this course. There are A LOT of shoulder techniques in there!

There is no question that working with very large and heavy clients is more challenging. There will be some techniques that are just too difficult to do and are better skipped. However there are so many technique in this course that you will always find SOMETHING that will work well even on such clients.

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Shoulder Therapy Module 3

I’m really loving this course. It is so needed.  The  triangle stretch using my foot to stabalize worked well. Practice and communication will help me to tune in better for the right amount of stretch as I err on the side of less stretch. The tractioning of the arm from behind and tucking under my body worked well for my own body dynamics…But the stretch that the client loved  was the row boat shouder stretch and the client encourage me to really stretch deep. The arm swinging I had done previously but never while pinning the pecs down with the palm…. Overall the client was very happy with the shoulder work and there was clearly increased range of motion..and I am eagerly awaiting module 4 today…

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That’s one of those posts that make my day. It reinforces why I am doing all this work creating these courses. Smile

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Shoulder 4

The circling with the variable pressure was much harder than it looked…it felt very choppy but I also think it was because the client had very rigid shoulders so the tissue just was not moving…but it loosened a little after a while but still was not smooth for me.  The finger tip circling in the trapezius worked well but the client was face down in a pillow and in hindsignt I should have asked the client if I could remove the pillow because the pillow kind of contracted the neck and it was hard to do the squeeze and circle move…

 

Shoulder 5

The blocking of the  arm doing the circling of the arm was what I have been missing….would you say that most movements have a “lock” or a blocking of something….I’m starting to feel like there are some repetitive type of things that I should be looking for such as where to lock or stabalize…I know that may seem obvious but I’ve never looked at movement like that before.  This session was in a 76 yr old woman (My mother) …and I was using hot herbal compresses that I made myself for the first time. alot of module 5 I will have to do again when I can watch the video at the same time….the moving the body and using my knee just didn’t really work well just because I couldn’t remember exactly how to do it…

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Yes, you are right, there is an element of finding the right position to ‘lock’ body parts into the most conducive position. The correct ergonomics or body mechanics play a very important role here.

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Shoulder 5 repeated

Ok so I got a chance to do module 5 while watching the video and it was very helpful to do shoulder circling and shoulder rocking while stabalizing my hand…and the one that I needed the video for was for the arm circling with shoulder stretch and coordinating my body…some of the variations, I didn’t really notice any difference but the person was bigger than me…so some I had modify a little by standing on knee with the other knee up to give me the height….the rotating the shoulder while leaning on the trapezius..took some adjusting but once i found the right lock with my elbow on my knee and the right coordination of my body it went ok.

Shoulder 6

the pulling back on the arm..while pushing on the shoulder worked really well, especially when I moved my body down where I was sitting more at the back…the client did not seem that flexible but that adjustment made the body dynamics and leverage better and made for a smoother stretch..  

On the acupressure on and under the scapula…I loved pulling the body towards me and rolling the shoulder over my thumb…Previously I was moving my body forward and stabalizing the shoulder and it did not feel as effective as this method did.

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I am glad to hear that you are experimenting and modifying the techniques to suit your body and the client’s body. There is never ONE way of doing it. The art is in understanding the purpose of the technique and then adjusting it so that it fits the situation – and in some cases decide that it might not be the right technique for someone.

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Shoulder 7,

I loved module 7 simply because it was helpful to use other body parts other than hands because a lot of people that I work with are bigger than me.  I do feel a little awkward with my feet close to the head like that (I liked your socks in the video by the way 🙂  I think of the head as being scared  and although the feet are not actually touching the head, it feels a little energetically off to me…Can you talk some about the different styles of massage in Thailand and the usage of the feet in that area?   I think I would only use some of those t foot echniques in limited circumstances…  I loved the bolstering for this it was so ingenious…and yet I totally forgot to incorporate it during the session..lol  No wonder I felt like something was off.. so the clients neck and head was turned to the side…and at first I didn’t have the arms at a right angle but I did remember to switch that at least… I totally forgot about the knee movements….and I am glad I did since the bolstering was not correct anyway…

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I wouldn’t do the foot techniques on anyone and everyone either. You do need a little discrimination for those.

Regarding your question about the use of foot techniques in Thailand – they are primarily used in Thai Massage. Here are a couple of references which address this:

Yam Khang Thai Massage

The 11 Healing Arts Systems Of Thailand

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Shoulder 8 &9

 

I’ve had a lot of opportunities to work on the shoulder techniques. On last Saturday my massage business Sacred Touch Body work was a exhibitor at A African American Health Fair and I did 20 minute sessions to introduce people to body work. I worked four hours straight which was a lot but there was a waitlist and its just the way things turned out…but anyhoo it gave me plenty of opportunities to only target shoulder work.

 

I used the bolstering technique under the arm which I love and worked at both the top of the head and from behind or below the arm based on the different shapes of the person, how much space I had at the top of the head.. etc.. I love using the knee but does take some finesse and micro movements to get a smooth effect..the placing the knee and body under the arm pit worked well but the exercise where you roll to the side to open and traction the shoulder joint is still awkward for me…i wish I could feel it on my self. 

The 9th module was more about putting it all together in a way that was comfortable and by doing these mini 20 minute sessions I had plenty of opportunity to work on seamlessy moving from prone to supine, to side…etc…

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Sounds like a great opportunity to practice on lots of different bodies. That’s the best way to learn it. 

Like you, I have often wished I could feel my style of Thai Massage done to me – but that never happens since a lot of those techniques are not done in traditional Thai Massage. They are refinements and additions which I came up with over the years.

Regarding the rolling to the side technique, I am sure that you will figure out how to get it to flow with more practice.

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