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Barbara Baggett's Complete Thai Massage Training
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July 5, 2016 - 12:29 am
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Any chance you can show someone how to do the sacrum techniques so that you can receive it?

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We'll yeah! Duh. Just got out of an Epsom salt bath, and that's exactly what I'm going to have Steve do for me!

But first! Module 24. Prone Back

Your adaptation of traditional Thai back massage makes me think about my sister, who said she had a painful Thai massage at Wat Pho. I was wondering what could have been going on - maybe it was the back?

I enjoy the feeling of beginning with nurturing circles done with full hands, slowly progressing to use more of base of hand with agitation and more pressure. Love the 'offset wiggle' which reminds me of my Brisket, maine coon cat, who is also a massage therapist Cool  Appreciate the reminder of not stretching the skin; that skin burn feeling is so painful and distracting.

Keep same rhythm, with breath, use hands to listen, flow...

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Thai Massages can often be painful when the therapists use exclusively direct, linear thumb pressure which just doesn't feel very good many times. As you noticed, my style is quite different. I use more flowing motion techniques like rocking, circling, rolling, wiggling etc. They are much more pleasant to receive, and they are also less stressful on your hands.

Wat Po is doing the strictly traditional thing, whereas I have created my own style regardless of tradition. For me the only important thing is what works best for me and for my clients. I use tradition when I find it useful, and I modify it when I can come up with a better way. 

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Module 25 Prone back 2

Explore! I appreciate the message to explore the body- so often in other massage courses, the teacher only focuses on techniques. One of the many things I love about your course!

Pushing down on traps by means of rocking my body, using my leg to push my arm , is powerful, and good example of utilizing the whole body, not just the arms/hands.  

I've worked with my forearm and elbow, but never the knee. I look forward to using this on big thick bodies. 

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Try working with the knee on someone small, and do it very very gently. That will help you a lot when it comes to developing sensitivity. Don't look at the knee as a power tool or a sledge hammer method for giants! Smile 

Working on the big guys is easy, but working on small persons with the knee takes much more body control and finesse. I am not saying that you should always use the knee on small clients, but you should practice on some to learn how to work very gently with the knee.

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Module 26 Prone Back

Putting a big pillow under the chest and small pillow to rest the forehead is a good solution for
the neck. yea! 

I like these techniques that vary the rhythm, from elephant walking, to elephant galloping Winkand also the ones that utilize my hands doing 2 different moves simultaneously. Although harder for me to master
doing two different things, it is similar to the challenge of playing the piano.. When I've received
other massages in the past , my body responds well to the feeling of 2 things going on. I think I relax more because I'm not expecting a certain rhythm or touch. 

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September 18, 2016 - 2:10 pm
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That's a good comparison with the piano. I have to remember that one! Smile

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Module 27 Prone Upper Back

"Don't attack the pain" - explore, loosen and warm the muscle. I've used the circling recently in Swedish
massage, and clients find it very soothing. 

The shoulder stretches will be very important, as most people are hunched forward, shoulders rolled in.
I'm appreciating the importance of stabilizing  the hips and rib cage in order to assist with stretch. 

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Module 28 Prone Review

The reviews reinforce therapist body mechanics; good to see the transitions. I will watch these over & over! Thanks for tagging the techniques; makes it easy to go back and reference details of earlier videos.

Diagnostic probing - work out knots and tight spots with fingertips. wiggling, circling

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"Don't attack the pain" - my wife just got a Thai Massage and she complained the therapist did exactly that. She attacked the pain with her elbows and my wife is still hurting 24 hours later. There is just no need for that, and there are better ways to deal with this rather than just pressing harder. The "attack the pain "mentality is unfortunately quite prevalent when it comes to Thai Massage, but not in my style !

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Module 31 Side - Shoulder  (skipped to shoulder - will pick up 29/30 after)

Working with my whole body while putting the shoulder in 360 range of motion did feel much better to my partner than when I only used my arms, using similar technique giving Sweedish massage on a table. The whole body response is similar to the feel of Esalen massage, where therapist is moving with the client. It's a bond, sharing of energy.

Pushing, massaging upper traps while pulling back the shoulder and shifting my body in 1/2 circle will be exquisite, once I get it down!

I'm presented mostly with shoulder, neck and back issues; and have rarely used the side lying position in Sweedish! The perfect position for the shoulder!  I am so excited to be getting close to offering Thai! I've drawn this out because of work/life commitments and seeing the light in a month? to completing the course.  Once completed, I plan to review all and choose the techniques that work best for me for various situations - then practice practice and hopefully begin Thai practice in the new year. 

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Sounds like an excellent program to me! Smile

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Module 32 Side - Shoulder

My favorites are arm over head, kneading under arm, traction of the arm, and compression of the side.

This is an overlooked area.  Also, the sandwich rocking/rubbing side of shoulder. This feels very good, I do this to my knees too.

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Module 29  Side lying

Have props at ready, pillows

Beginning with elephant walk the length of the leg - good reminder that any touch has the potential of influencing, warming, transforming the whole body. Flow, dance, use my whole body weight - set my intention, feel the layers..Remember this when I am prone to discount my ability as a therapist - Not all about 'technique'.

Sitting on outside of thigh- the big muscle loves this - reminds me of sighing, big exhale. Go slow, prolong the pressure.

Hip - circles, leaning in with forearm (whole body lean) and percussion while moving. Remember ergonomics - be over your work, dance.

Stretching the inside and upper thigh - lengthening the leg and opening the hip

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Talking about overlooked areas - there are quite a few in this course, like knees, glutes, abdomen, sacrum...

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Module 30  Side Position

Use pillow under knee to avoid person sliding over.

Go into and out of stretches slowly

I really like most rocking and shaking moves. "undulating rocking motion". LaughPlayful is a good term. I'll be practicing the rocking spinal twist.  'Back massage with built in twist"- nice.

Hip flexors can be so tight; mine are...pulling body back, wrapping it around the knee. These descriptions and analogies are helpful to remember the intent of the move. 

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Module 33 - Sitting Position 1

Heavenly Head Massage - sounds heavenly & I need to check this out for ending massage

Always support the back.  Use knee on erectors, or use pillow between knee and back. 

Use sitting position for folks that can sit comfortably in lotus, with back straight.

Knead, rock upper traps simultaneously or alternate. Squeeze and slide up neck (client's back pressed into my chest) - feels very nurturing.

Always remember not to disengage from client when changing position.

Back stretch: watch out for clients with stiff back, shoulder problems. Check in, use 1-10 system.

Back twist: "not brutal"  technique . lol Laugh 

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Barbara, you are reverting to just listing the content of the video in your last post. You don't have to do that since I already know what's in the video! LaughLaugh I made them!

I am much more interested to hear about your experience with the course and the feedback you are getting, or any results you had. That's a lot more interesting and juicy.

The Heavenly Head Massage course is a fantastic way to end your sessions. I would highly recommend that as a follow-up program. Then you will be easily able to put people into the massage-nirvana state! Smile

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Module 34 Sitting 2

Right! For some reason I began using the forum as a place for my notes. Alrighty then!

Despite warnings, when I tried the back traction on Steve, his weight came back onto me and I collapsed; every time...ha.  Components of my weak thighs, his height and weight. I want to try this on a smaller person. I do like full body contact, have always liked Esalen type of massage, so that's not a factor.  And I had the same experience with squatting and knees in the back - oddly I felt more in control with this one. 

We both enjoyed my feet in his back under scapulas as I walked up and down his back while leaning back with joined hands. He liked the upper sacrum walking also. 

The twist was uncomfortable for me, bending over, and I didn't get much twisting leverage. I'll save twisting for supine position. Also Steve's head didn't fit resting on my thigh (I'm at 45 degrees, trying trap compression with forearm), but it did work out when I was behind him. I think the head on thigh would be nice, and will try that out again also. 

I felt unsteady with my elbow in traps, pulling arm back, and will need to work on balance. He enjoyed the stretch. 

My Thai mat just arrived and it's much better than the rug we've been practicing on! I watched your video on mats and decided to get a large one. It's definitely not portable, and not inexpensive.  It is good quality and fits in the massage room I'm renting in town and I'm pleased. https://houseofthailand.com/Th.....ssage-Mats   Company was very prompt and friendly.

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Module 35 Client Communication

Wow - I need to hear this! I tend to not talk. It's important to begin with instruction about client comfort (full bladder , temperature) and pain levels (1-10 explanation) .  I'm always amazed at what clients don't divulge until they are in the session... oh yeah, that scar is from when I had my spine fused...etc... You didn't think to tell me that? ..I have an autoimmune disease... Nothing was mentioned on intake form or initial consult?!

Currently I rent a room with a woman who practices MFR; she is so good about educating her clients on the benefits, and pointing out to them when a body part 'releases' etc.  The clients have so much more confidence in her than me I think, just from her educating them more. 

I have had many clients who have the mindset of tightness, and I have told them to 'relax - let it go, let me take your arm/leg/head'. I want to remember to point out before and after feelings.  I need to do more of pointing out when the pain diminishes...where initially pain was there, and is now relieved...range of motion improved...'see, now you can move your head'...

Nice to offer first timers choice of full body or focus on problem areas. Critical to check in with each other ; especially for first time. 

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