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I appreciate the talk about working with energy as opposed to having to know anatomy and physiology of the body intimately. As much as I love anatomy and find it fascinating, I find I relate, understand, and read energy better than I do anatomy. 

I’m looking forward to the freedom and creativity that will come from having more space to flow and play around on the floor. Also, I think it will be helpful for grounding, in general. 

Things to remember…

“Bodyweight not muscle power”

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“Breath connects you with your energy.”

Connecting breath with movement makes everything flow more easefully and gracefully. As well as making it look more relaxing and connected.

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I appreciate the emphasis on the importance of ergonomics. As a massage therapist who has been working steadily for the last seven years, I can definitely attest to how important body mechanics truly are. 

I’ve used a chi machine a few times before and they are a little piece of heaven. It is a rather simple move, but the effects are widespread and so relaxing. It would be a good thing to do after coming home from work, to help decompress and shift from work energy to home energy. I think my sweetheart would enjoy it. I’ll have to test it out on him either tonight or in the morning. 

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Welcome to the Complete Thai Massage course certification program, Anika. Smile

It looks like you have it all figured out, but for the sake of completeness I always post a link to our certification check list in the beginning of all certification threads. So here it is:

Certification Check List

We are on the same wave length about anatomy. Sure, it is good to know it, but the heart and soul of massage is not in the anatomy, but in the energetic aspects. So that’s what I focus on in this course. Anyone who wants to know more about the anatomy can easily find it online. However the energetic aspects are often very much neglected in the western world, and that’s why I focus more on that.

Sometimes those mechanical devices come in quite handy, like the actual Chi Machine. I have a neck massage machine which works quite well, and I use it every day. Sure, the version done by a real human is clearly better, but not always available.

I got the name for my Chi Machine technique from the actual machine which I had used before, like you.

It seems like you easily caught on to some of the important points like the body weight vs muscle power and the breath connection. That goes a long way in Thai Massage.

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Thank you for your comments, Shama.

After practicing the Chi Machine technique on Tyler, my sweetheart, I asked him how he felt and he said, “Tingling…”. Smile

Some of what is taught in this foot video I remember from when I took Thai massage classes before, such as the 1-2-3-2-1 sequence and the foot stretches, though there are some additional moves in this video, which is nice. I like doing the hip push/pull stretch. I may have to teach Tyler to do it to me. It looks like it feels so good. 

Feedback from Tyler was to be careful not to pull or stretch the skin.

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Tingling is what we are looking for in this move!

If you can get Tyler to do some of the techniques on you, that would be great! 

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Yes, I will definitely teach Tyler to do some of these moves on me. That’s what is so nice about having the videos to watch anytime.

Tyler fell asleep while I was working his feet this evening. When I asked him for feedback, he said he could tell I was starting to feel more comfortable with the movements. There was less hesitation and more of a natural ease and flow.

I did find myself not using my entire body at times and I am proud of myself for catching and noticing it. It’s something I’ll have to be extra aware of cause it’s so easy to forget about, at least at first when there are so many other factors to consider. Once the movements become more ingrained in the muscle memory and intuitive, it will be easier to pay more attention to body mechanics. But it’s good to get it ingrained as something to always be aware of. 

It can be kind of difficult or feel almost a little clumsy at times when I’m holding the feet in my hands and doing the twisting because I’m so small and my hands are small and feet, especially guys feet can be so big. I’ll have to work on that to find what feels more comfortable and graceful. Any advice on that?

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If you have small hands and your partner has large feet, then one good option is to use other body parts like forearms, elbows, knees and feet. Some of this will be covered later in the course. The other thing is that on people with large feet you would just skip some of the techniques that you feel are either not effective or too difficult to do for you. All the techniques are not mandatory sequences but options to choose from.

And finally, with practice your hands will get stronger and you might find that what you could not do, or not very well, becomes easier and more effective further down the road. There are tens of thousands of female Thai Massage therapists here in Thailand, and they are all quite small and light, but they are very effective, even on much larger western tourists, because they know how to use their bodies. So this is not as much a limitation as you might think.

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Thank you so much, Shama. It’s funny because a couple of days after asking about the small hands/large feet scenario, I got received the video on what can be done. 

Module 5

I’m not sure why, but I was very distracted both while watching the instruction video for module 5 and while practicing, so I will definitely have to watch it all again and practice, practice, practice. Which actually is great cause Tyler could really use the leg work. 

It was nice to learn some new techniques for the legs and I’ve been adding them to my massages at the chiropractor a little bit. 

I have a friend coming to visit and I’m excited to practice what I’ve learned so far on a different body. As much as I love giving Tyler massages, it’s nice to practice new techniques on several people to get different feedback. Especially cause my friend that is visiting is a massage therapist, as well and is actually the one who told me about this course. Though she hasn’t herself done it (but is interested), she knows a woman who has taken it and the woman had only great things to say. 

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I am happy to hear that my course has a good reputation! 🙂

It is actually quite important to practice on more than one person. Often one technique will work great on one person, but not as well on another. Different body sizes, degrees of flexibility or stiffness, and weights determine what among hundreds of techniques and choices works best for a particular person. 

Thai Massage is not a one-size-fits-all program with one sequence that is applied to every session. There is a lot of flexibility and creativity involved. And this is something which you can only learn by working on all kinds of different persons.

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Yes, different bodies are great. I remember it wasn’t until my first massage job in a spa where I worked on hundreds of different bodies, that certain things that I had learned really started to make sense. I’ve asked a few people if they’d be willing to let me practice on them. Of course they are not going to say no. 🙂 I did get to practice on Erin, which was great and she loved it. I practiced the chi machine, foot massage and leg warm ups on her and just that was enough to relax her. 

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I was surprised to see a video leg warm up using the forearms, delightfully so. Using my hands in the first leg warm up did feel a little more fluid and natural, but I use my elbows and forearms a lot in my massages, so I think it’s more the positioning of the bodies that I’ll have to get used to than the using of my forearms. Tyler could tell the difference between me leaning in with my bodyweight and me just leaning in with my muscle power.

It was so gratifying to feel the difference in Tyler’s legs after they got worked. Even he said he noticed a difference right away. He said he felt relaxed, yet stimulated at the same time. 

There are a couple of techniques I’ll practice a little more, to work on the fluidity of them, but otherwise I think it is going well. 

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Sounds encouraging. It will be helpful that you already see the benefit of working  with forearms and elbows. Some course students have an initial resistance to this. That’s one of the best things about Thai Massage – you can use many different body parts and you don’t  run the risk of wearing out your  hands.

If you get good feedback from Tyler already, and you are just starting out with the course, imagine the feedback you will be getting a few months from now! Smile

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It was fun to start practicing some stretches! I had learned the stretch with the bended knee and foot flat on the floor before, but it never seemed to do much. Now I see they did not emphasize the importance of pulling the knee to the side. Now I get it and it makes much more sense. The elephant walking seems to be a very relaxing stretch, both for the client and to do as a practitioner. 

I also enjoyed the part on assessing a client’s body. I do think that it is very important in order to be aware and sensitive to any limitations they may have.

I’ve been practicing some of the foot and leg techniques on my clients, on the table. People love the footwork and it’s easy to add to a table massage. The leg work would definitely be easier to do on the floor and I’m looking forward to offering that. 

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I like the way you conceptualize things to make them easier to remember. It really does help. I’m definitely going to remember “hip pie” cause it’s kind of silly and made me laugh, but it totally makes sense and works.

I’ve been able to use some of these stretches on clients, which is great for teaching me how to work with all types of different bodies.

It can be a little awkward working with bigger bodies cause I’m so small, but I think it’ll just take practice and it’ll become more comfortable. 

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I have seen this stretch with the foot on the floor taught the wrong way many times – quite amazing – without the sideways movement  this doesn’t do anything.

From now on  you will learn  many techniques which are often much easier to do on the floor, so  it will be worth it to add this to your setup.

Pretty much all therapists in Thailand are very small and light. They have learned how to use their bodies effectively, and so will you. There are plenty of examples and modifications in this course for this purpose. Smile

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I had a really good, thorough practice session on the legs the other day. I practiced the leg warm ups and have gotten a better feel of which ones feel more natural and which ones I like. Then I was able to continue on with the hip pie stretch. 

I do have a question… when the clients knee is bent and the sole of their foot is on the ground and your doing the calf warm ups, the pulling of the calves and compressing of the calves between your palms… I found the client’s leg kept wanting to fall over because they were relaxed, even with my foot on their foot to keep it from moving. Any suggestions on how to keep that from happening?

The hips pie stretches went well. There is definitely that point in the stretches where you have to balance power and softness, I think is how you put it. It’s fun to work with that and to learn to listen to a client’s body and to get in touch with intuition. 

My client was a little sore after doing the spinal twist stretch, even with the very thorough warm up and easing very gently into only what they could handle and also receiving feedback throughout all of it on their stretch limits are. So that was good feedback and good to know to be even more gentle next time. 

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Yes, about the leg falling out, there is a little trick. All you need to do is move the heel of the client’s foot out a little. That will go a long ways towards stabilizing this position. So now the client’s foot is not in straight alignment with the body anymore, but angled in (medially) a little.

A second trick is that you position the entire foot out (laterally) a little. You can combine both of these “tricks”, and the leg will be much more stable.

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I am back in the game! It’s been a while, i know. It’s been a very wonderful and busy last couple of months. Tyler and I got married, so we spent a good couple of weeks getting it all together, we were traveling for a few weeks and the settling into a new job and place for the summer. Now that we are settled, it is time to get back to the Thai Massage. 

I’ll have to go back and review some of the leg stretches, but I picked up where I last left off, and it went well. It felt good to get back in the flow of Thai massage. These stretches were pretty easy and straight forward, more so than some of the others. The transitions between stretches weren’t quite as smooth, but that’ll come with more practice and familiarity of the stretches. 

Tyler enjoyed each of the stretches and his feedback was all positive. He thought the blood stop was a little strange, at first, but then I think he enjoyed it. 

Thank you for the tips and repositioning the foot for the calf stretch. I will be sure to try it. 

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Welcome back, Anika, and congratulations to your marriage. In the meantime, the Complete Thai Massage course has been patiently waiting for your return! Laugh Luckily you own it for life, so no problem.

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Indeed, lucky for me I do own it for life. Laugh

It was nice to see how you put a flow together with all the different possible options. It looks like you added in a couple of stretches that we didn’t see in any of the earlier leg modules that looked really sweet. 

I have a few different flow ideas in mind, so I’m looking forward to playing with them. I’ve been working on adding in a few here and there during my table massages. 

How long is a typical Thai massage sessions? And how much time do you dedicate to the legs? I’m sure it’s very different with every client. 

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The length of a Thai Massage session tends to be longer than western-style massages. They are normally between one and two hours, with two hours preferable. Personally I never did less than two hour sessions. I didn’t even give my clients the option of a one hour session because I feel that I just need the extra time in order to do a good job. However a one hour session can definitely be done, although I think that it is best to encourage clients to go for at least a 1.5 hr session.

Here in Thailand the therapists spend at least half the session time on the legs, or even two thirds. Personally I don’t agree with this.  I have always found that most clients really need upper body work, and therefore I spend much more time on the upper body than the therapists in Thailand.

Another reason for this is that the typical Thai Massage therapist doesn’t have as many techniques for the upper body compared to the legs. However I have developed upper body techniques to a much greater degree, so I differ a bit from traditional Thai Massage in this regard.

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