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August 16, 2021 - 9:13 pm
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Module 1

I used the principles in module one about body mechanics and breathe with my massage, the massage was more relaxing at I connected more with the client. I’m already in Massage therapist. Because of the pandemic restrictions to in person learning I am taking this course, I have always wanted to learn thai massage and incorporate it into my practice.  This first introduction module makes me excited to learn the techniques and apply them to my field.

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These stretches were very relaxing, I don’t have a problem sitting on my knees, it’s much more comfortable to me than having to stand all day, I’m looking forward to being able to switch it up and sometimes do floor massages.

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Hi Abrah, welcome to the Complete Thai Massage certification program. Please take a moment and familiarize yourself with our certification checklist to make sure that it is all correctly organized:

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I already made some changes to make sure that you can be found in the forum: I added your name to your profile, and your last name to your topic title. I also included your last name in your display name. Without those changes it is very difficult to find you since your full name didn't show up anywhere. We need to be able to connect your forum profile to your certification registration.

Please fill out the bio section in your forum profile so that I have an idea about your background. This helps me to relate to you better and respond better.

I am glad to read that floor work is not a problem for you and that you see its value. Thai Massage definitely works better on a floor mat. You don't have any limitations there as opposed to table work.

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Module 3

  Foot massage. I practiced this on my husband. I’m glad I didn’t try it on a client first. The rocking motion was very awkward at first. I think I need more practice. But I can see the benefits once it becomes natural. Also I liked what you said about the initial touch. It’s a good reminder, that the first touch needs to be welcoming and relaxing. 

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I incorporated the push pull technique on my massage today the client said it felt really good in her hip joint, was I doing it right? All eight of these moves put together really loosens up the foot and leaves a relaxing feeling I just hope I can remember them even if I don’t use them every time.

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Well, there is no better test for doing things right than a client or practice partner telling you that it feels really good. Smile

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Module 5

 I practiced these leg techniques on my husband after he had just ran a half marathon. He is not flexible at all and it was a little difficult to find the right position to be in when there was not much space between the legs. Also I was hard to relax my shoulder when doing the rolling hand and thumb moves. I probably should wait till he’s not so tight from exercising. 

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Or you could wait until you learn some more techniques in the course which will give you more options to work on your husband even when he is tight. Smile

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i see what you mean, these kneeling moves would also help with tight legs. I’m having a hard time sitting so high between a persons legs though. Is there a different way to sit?

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May I ask why you are having a hard time sitting between a client's legs? 

Thai Massage does involve a lot of close physical contact between clients and therapists. This is what gives you the leverage to apply your body weight without working with effort and muscle power.

You are not touching genitals. The mere proximity to them is nothing inappropriate. This is quite normal in Thai Massage.

You could of course skip this entire sequence and position yourself in a different way with different techniques. However you will run into similar issues with other Thai Massage techniques since Thai Massage cannot be done without a good amount of body contact.

There is a video coming up in module 24 that explains this issue more in detail. My suggestion is to try to overcome your hesitancy. I have had students with similar issues before, but after a while they all became more comfortable with the body contact issue.

Try to not look at the body as a collection of 'sensitive areas', and focus on the healing energy and the healing benefits of what you are doing.

In my experience the therapists are the ones who are much more concerned about sensitive areas than the clients. If you have clean energy and intentions, the clients will feel this and won't think that anything you are doing is inappropriate. If however you are really worried about doing something inappropriate, the clients will sense this and react accordingly. 

That's why it is so important that this issue is resolved in your mind since you will invariably transmit your feelings to your clients.

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In response to your last post i will get used to it. I have no problem with being in close proximity to sensitive areas but throughout massage school and continuing Ed in the west it’s very stressed not to cross peoples boundaries. I’m am more on the relaxed side than most therapists. I often work on people’s pecks and hip flexors which many people here don’t. But I’ve also had some bad experiences with inappropriate people, so there is alsways that stress. But since I’ve been in business for so long I don’t accept new clients anymore unless they have been referred by my current clients so all the people I work on now I am very comfortable and will be comfortable with the positions in Thai massage.

I practiced module 7 stretching moves on my husband he really like the foot and stepping and pulling the legs. His hips are very locked up and not flexible so the elephant walking brought his entire opposite hip of the floor when I pushed down. The circular motion she said he felt it i his hip flexors a lit but not much. 

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I know that western massage education pushes this issue. Luckily in Thailand, this is generally a non-issue which is very refreshing. As you said, you will get used to it and end up feeling comfortable with it. Smile

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Module 8

i really liked the pie stretches on the floor and being able to use my whole body to assist the stretch. I often do stretches similar to this but because the client is on the table it’s a lot of work for me. I look forward to be able to use this on a floor mat in the future. 
  Will there be a video with all the moves together? It’s hard to remember what I learned in the first few videos. Or even a printable sheet with a list of the moves for each body part?

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Yes, there are several 'summary videos' in this course that put it all together. The first one is module 11.  Also you have transcripts for each module which you can print out. Between these two resources you will find it easier to remember it all.

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Module 9

Thank you I look forward to putting all these moves together and practicing. In module 9 I liked the stretch to open up the hips, this is a huge problem for most of my clients. Also the rocking the spine seems like it would relax the low back. I look forward to practicing these more it is hard to get used to as you said in the video and takes time. But these are really good tools to integrate into my work.

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Module 10

I really enjoy the body mechanics of the stretches in module 10. It is easy on me but once again I was practicing on my husband who is very stiff so a lot of the stretches were pretty intense for him. The rocking and modifications helped a lot to loosen him up and relax into a deeper stretch. 
I don’t quite understand the hara and how it relates to these moves, how does the hara being depleted effect the massage and how do you stop it from being depleted during a massage? I’m sorry if I missed the explanation in the video, I read through the transcript too and still don’t understand.

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Module 11

after practicing the module 10 stretches I did the 11 video because it’s been hard to get my husband to give me time to practice. I replayed it twice and followed along for each leg. The sequence is nice and flows well. He requested that I practiced on his legs more often because they are so tight. I’m really enjoying the body mechanics and all the movement my body gets too. It give my thumbs and hands a nice break. 

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Regarding the hara, think of it like a battery that powers a device. If the battery is depleted, the device doesn't work anymore. When the hara is depleted, the body dies. The hara is your life energy. It gets restored with good food, good air, exercise, sunshine, positive thinking, meditation, yoga, happiness, music that touches your soul, good sleep, and many such things.

The hara gets depleted with bad food, shallow breathing, lack of exercise and sunshine, negative thoughts, toxic company, lack of sleep, stress, etc.

How does it relate to massage? If you keep your energy high, e.g. your batteries charged, you will feel better, more enthusiastic, more in tune, and this will transfer to the client.

Simply by putting your attention on the hara, the area behind the navel, you will focus better, connect to an inner strength and balance that you were not aware of before, work with your body and your energy, connect better to your client, and emanate a healing energy that your client will feel on some level.

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Module 12

Thank you for that explanation i will try and focus on my hara next time I work and see if I can feel the difference.

I liked these leg and calf stretches. I also appreciate the modifications because I am shorter than most. My favorite is the hip/knee stretch where you bend the knees up to the chest. And also the sacrum rocking. That area gets so tight on most people I look forward to using it more.

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Module 13

I really appreciate your reminder to ask the client about pain and what kind of pain it is. It does make a huge difference on the massage making the client an active part of their healing instead of just laying there ad having something done to them. I do think it helps with the psychology of helping them feel better. Also I will use your technique of relaxing the hip flexors. And stretching the side of the leg. Those areas are so tight on so many people.

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